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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:19 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:John, looks like the Cardinals have to be taken seriously at this point... this is a great performance thus far. They will also be DANGEROUS dome opponents for either the Vikings or the Saints.


Sorry dude. Not sold on the Cardinals and not sold on the Bengals. Sure the Cardinals look good tonight. As we've discussed previously...it's the NFL and any team can get beat if they don't show up to play. I promise you that the only way the Cardinals or Bengals are getting anywhere near the Super Bowl this season is if they purchase tickets.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:22 pm

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Ehwmatt wrote:John, looks like the Cardinals have to be taken seriously at this point... this is a great performance thus far. They will also be DANGEROUS dome opponents for either the Vikings or the Saints.


Sorry dude. Not sold on the Cardinals and not sold on the Bengals. Sure the Cardinals look good tonight. As we've discussed previously...it's the NFL and any team can get beat if they don't show up to play. I promise you that the only way the Cardinals or Bengals are getting anywhere near the Super Bowl this season is if they purchase tickets.


Perhaps, but I like the Cardinals for a big upset in the playoffs much, much better than the Bengals. I'd much rather play a grinder like the Bengals then go up against Kurt, Larry, Anquan & Co. when they are on a hot streak..
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:37 pm

A third pick. Terrible game for Favre. Cards are BRINGING the pressure and reading him like a book.

He's lookin like Cutler out there
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Postby WalkInMyShoes » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:05 pm

Favre sacked x3!! Love it!
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Postby AlteredDNA » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:07 pm

Starting to look like a two game lead... ;)
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:53 pm

I said it earlier that you just cannot give up on teams like the Chargers, Giants, Cardinals, or Cowboys just yet. Even though the Cowboys lost, if ANY of these teams make the playoffs, and from this point it looks like all could and will, then either one of these teams have the shot to play spoiler, and I expect it to happen since we've seen it almost every year this decade. If the Jags somehow don't flush their season down the toilet, to which they might, then they will be the most overlooked team in the AFC playoffs and that becomes a dangerous team. We've said it ALL YEAR, and the theme of this year is the NFL changes WEEK TO WEEK and anybody could beat anybody, making it the best league in all pro sports.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:02 am

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Saint John wrote:I just don't see the Saints losing indoors on turf. Maybe Minnesota can beat them in a dome, but no one else. Outside? They seem very average.


It's a great point Dan, and that's why the Saints and the Vikings both look VERY good for the playoffs. Dome teams almost always do well in domes and completely shit themselves when forced to play outside in the elements. Because the Saints are likely going to have home field throughout the playoffs, they may well get into the NFC championship game. They are definitely an offense built for a dome.


A perfect example of this, and one coincidentally involving the Saints, was the 2007 NFC Champ game. The Bears made the mighty and impressive Saints offense look mediocre at best in that game, and that game was held in Chicago in rough elements. So, this season, it's the Colts/Saints/ or Vikes to pretty much lose a Championship ring because outside of those domes, I don't see either of them losing a home field advantage game.
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:42 am

One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:58 am

lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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You know what, Favre is having one HELLUVA season and one game isn't going to change that. This old Favre stuff I don't buy. The guy had a bad game and not only was he due, but the Vikes were due as well and losing this game will only make them better in my opinion. Say what you want about Favre and how he chokes in the playoffs and has thrown the most interceptions all time blah blah, but he's having a helluva season. Credit the Cards defense, because they came ready to play and they will be for real once the playoffs start. Favre was due but unlike the past, I expect him to be better in the playoffs once they hit and a possible ring.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:03 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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You know what, Favre is having one HELLUVA season and one game isn't going to change that. This old Favre stuff I don't buy. The guy had a bad game and not only was he due, but the Vikes were due as well and losing this game will only make them better in my opinion. Say what you want about Favre and how he chokes in the playoffs and has thrown the most interceptions all time blah blah, but he's having a helluva season. Credit the Cards defense, because they came ready to play and they will be for real once the playoffs start. Favre was due but unlike the past, I expect him to be better in the playoffs once they hit and a possible ring.


Henderson's injury is HUGE. That defense simply won't be the same without him, morale wise or skill wise.

As for Favre and the "real Favre," I dunno... history tells us he will choke. Plus, this is about the time last season's meltdown started. Next week will be very telling.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:04 am

lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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Also, Steelers Nation is still holding on by a pubic hair on top of the mountain and has one last ditch hope of making a 6th seed. That means we need your PACK to take care of the Ravens tonight. The Steelers blew it many times this season and they are pretty much done and they REALLY don't even deserve to be in if you lose to the Chiefs and Raiders, but they could still make it by winning out, and getting help since we face 2 WC teams in the next 4 (Miami, Baltimore.) As long as we're alive, I'm game so, GO PACK GO.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:06 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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Also, Steelers Nation is still holding on by a pubic hair on top of the mountain and has one last ditch hope of making a 6th seed. That means we need your PACK to take care of the Ravens tonight. The Steelers blew it many times this season and they are pretty much done and they REALLY don't even deserve to be in if you lose to the Chiefs and Raiders, but they could still make it by winning out, and getting help since we face 2 WC teams in the next 4 (Miami, Baltimore.) As long as we're alive, I'm game so, GO PACK GO.


I'll be surprised if an in-form Packers team doesn't annihilate the Ravens tonight. The Ravens simply are not good at all this year and Flacco has proven to be just what I said all along last year - nothing special.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:08 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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You know what, Favre is having one HELLUVA season and one game isn't going to change that. This old Favre stuff I don't buy. The guy had a bad game and not only was he due, but the Vikes were due as well and losing this game will only make them better in my opinion. Say what you want about Favre and how he chokes in the playoffs and has thrown the most interceptions all time blah blah, but he's having a helluva season. Credit the Cards defense, because they came ready to play and they will be for real once the playoffs start. Favre was due but unlike the past, I expect him to be better in the playoffs once they hit and a possible ring.


Henderson's injury is HUGE. That defense simply won't be the same without him, morale wise or skill wise.

As for Favre and the "real Favre," I dunno... history tells us he will choke. Plus, this is about the time last season's meltdown started. Next week will be very telling.


Don't listen to history. Favre has never had a team around him THIS good and his numbers and leadership show for it. 10-2 later speaks for itself and with that running game and defense, it shouldn't have to come down to a forced throw by Favre to kill his teams chances. Last year, Favre was hurt and was running a Jets offense just to get by and ran a system he didn't know well. I'd take my chances with Favre this season judging by the way he's played up until this point.
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:13 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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You know what, Favre is having one HELLUVA season and one game isn't going to change that. This old Favre stuff I don't buy. The guy had a bad game and not only was he due, but the Vikes were due as well and losing this game will only make them better in my opinion. Say what you want about Favre and how he chokes in the playoffs and has thrown the most interceptions all time blah blah, but he's having a helluva season. Credit the Cards defense, because they came ready to play and they will be for real once the playoffs start. Favre was due but unlike the past, I expect him to be better in the playoffs once they hit and a possible ring.


Henderson's injury is HUGE. That defense simply won't be the same without him, morale wise or skill wise.

As for Favre and the "real Favre," I dunno... history tells us he will choke. Plus, this is about the time last season's meltdown started. Next week will be very telling.


Don't listen to history. Favre has never had a team around him THIS good and his numbers and leadership show for it. 10-2 later speaks for itself and with that running game and defense, it shouldn't have to come down to a forced throw by Favre to kill his teams chances.


three years ago the PACK was doing pretty good until the intereception in overtime against the Giants in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! That is the real Favre..... when he has to be the guy to win the BIG games I dont think he can do it... he needs Peterson to have a huge rest of season to give the Vikes a chance...

I dont take tonights game lightly... Aaron has to prove he can get rid of the ball before R Lewis gets to him... UGH... I will be stressed watching this game tonight!!!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:34 am

lights1961 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
lights1961 wrote:One more thing to make this the PERFECT NFL and college sports weekend... Packers winning tonight against the Ravens.

Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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You know what, Favre is having one HELLUVA season and one game isn't going to change that. This old Favre stuff I don't buy. The guy had a bad game and not only was he due, but the Vikes were due as well and losing this game will only make them better in my opinion. Say what you want about Favre and how he chokes in the playoffs and has thrown the most interceptions all time blah blah, but he's having a helluva season. Credit the Cards defense, because they came ready to play and they will be for real once the playoffs start. Favre was due but unlike the past, I expect him to be better in the playoffs once they hit and a possible ring.


Henderson's injury is HUGE. That defense simply won't be the same without him, morale wise or skill wise.

As for Favre and the "real Favre," I dunno... history tells us he will choke. Plus, this is about the time last season's meltdown started. Next week will be very telling.


Don't listen to history. Favre has never had a team around him THIS good and his numbers and leadership show for it. 10-2 later speaks for itself and with that running game and defense, it shouldn't have to come down to a forced throw by Favre to kill his teams chances.


three years ago the PACK was doing pretty good until the intereception in overtime against the Giants in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! That is the real Favre..... when he has to be the guy to win the BIG games I dont think he can do it... he needs Peterson to have a huge rest of season to give the Vikes a chance...

I dont take tonights game lightly... Aaron has to prove he can get rid of the ball before R Lewis gets to him... UGH... I will be stressed watching this game tonight!!!


Just because he made that throw 3 years ago doesn't mean he'll do it again and all Vikings fans should just give up because he has a history of it. If Favre gets his team to the NFC Championship and is in an overtime battle, and gun slings it into the tightest spot possible where noone thought he'd be able to, and win the game on that throw, then what Favre would that be? He's won the Pack MANY games with his gun slinging style and even though he lost just as many, the Packer organization was competitive year in and year out with Favre at the helm and he's proving this with how the Vikings perform. All I'm saying is, is that the percentage is high on Favre throwing that pick (as with any other QB) but with the team he has around him, that percentage drops way down IMO and he has a better shot at winning a playoff game than losing one. I won't be shocked either way.

The Ravens aren't even close to being a shell of their former self as a whole team. Flacco is under performing and the defense sure isn't playing any better. They let a 3rd string quarterback completely dictate the game against them against the Steelers and Dixon was pretty much un-nerved with a vanilla offense to work with. I expect the Pack to get better from here on out and be a viable threat in the playoffs.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:30 am

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Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco burned his opponent Sunday for over 100 receiving yards and a touchdown - but he may need a ride to the next game.

The player was sued Friday in Hamilton County Common Pleas Court by Daimler Chrysler Financial Services, accused of not paying for his 2008 Dodge Challenger.

Ochocinco bought the car Aug. 12, 2008, using his former name, Chad Johnson.

He paid $55,5487.35 for the vehicle but put $20,000 down on it, getting a loan for $37,975 for the car he bought from Northgate Chrysler Jeep.

The suit accuses him of being in default on the loan, having paid $3,200 on the car in 13 months.

It claims he owes $34,709.72 on that loan plus 15 percent interest annually from Sept. 10, 2009, likely the last payment the company received on the car. His monthly payments are $847.11.

Ochocinco didn't immediately respond to a request for comment left with the Bengals public relations staff.


WTF? Why wouldn't he just pay cash for that and be done with it? And who the fuck would spend $55K on a fuckin Dodge? :shock:
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:24 am

lights1961 wrote:Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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Don't be stupid. The guy is maybe the MVP. I know I know, Rodgers is better right? Take off the green and gold glasses. Your Mgt did it to him and he did you twice already this year. He throttled you guys. If you don't make the playoffs, Favre is the reason.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:26 am

Ehwmatt wrote:WTF? Why wouldn't he just pay cash for that and be done with it? And who the fuck would spend $55K on a fuckin Dodge? :shock:


Agreed. Who the Hell would buy a Dodge or a Ford truck? Garbage. At least buy a Silverado Chad.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:27 am

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lights1961 wrote:Favre showed us the REAL FAVRE LAST NIGHT when he is preasured and the running back gains 19 yards...



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Don't be stupid. The guy is maybe the MVP. I know I know, Rodgers is better right? Take off the green and gold glasses. Your Mgt did it to him and he did you twice already this year. He throttled you guys. If you don't make the playoffs, Favre is the reason.


Rodgers shows promise and will certainly amount to elite status soon in the NFL. If the Pack can protect him then the sky's the limit because the dude can torch you and he has the tools to be a great QB. Quarterback isn't the problem in GB, but to push Favre out in that fashion bit them more times than one and he torched them on a better team for it.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:40 am

Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:00 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Ever had one??? They hurt like nothing you have ever felt.

Still...I wonder if Ben sent him a text message telling him he should be on the field come Thursday...
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:00 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Ever had one??? They hurt like nothing you have ever felt.

Still...I wonder if Ben sent him a text message telling him he should be on the field come Thursday...


Oh I know they are killer... just havin some fun.
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:06 am

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Don't be stupid. The guy is maybe the MVP. I know I know, Rodgers is better right? Take off the green and gold glasses. Your Mgt did it to him and he did you twice already this year. He throttled you guys. If you don't make the playoffs, Favre is the reason.


I'm not a Favre fan, AT ALL. I think the guy is one of the most overrated QB's who has ever played in the history of the NFL. That said, the guy has played better this season than I think I've ever seen him play. I suspect that he won't win the MVP, because both Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are going to have better numbers, and they both might also be undefeated.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:16 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Lol. He'd play for sure if they had the 6 full days and a couple days of practice off that Tomlin usually give him, but in 4 days until game day is hardly enough time to rest a hamstring injury, strained one at that. Karma Karma.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:19 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Lol. He'd play for sure if they had the 6 full days and a couple days of practice off that Tomlin usually give him, but in 4 days until game day is hardly enough time to rest a hamstring injury, strained one at that.


If you guys lose to the Browns it's time for Tomlin to go. What is your opinion of him as a coach? He's always reminded me of the guy from Office Space who shows up at their door pretending to be addicted to crack and selling magazines.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:28 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Lol. He'd play for sure if they had the 6 full days and a couple days of practice off that Tomlin usually give him, but in 4 days until game day is hardly enough time to rest a hamstring injury, strained one at that.


If you guys lose to the Browns it's time for Tomlin to go. What is your opinion of him as a coach? He's always reminded me of the guy from Office Space who shows up at their door pretending to be addicted to crack and selling magazines.


We aren't the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions. So we have a 4 game slide, the first under Tomlin. Big deal, we'll get it right, esp since what is happening on the field is just the epitome of bad bounces, bad luck and inconsistency. Players play, coaches coach. Tomlin's first year we went to the playoffs, and the 2nd we won a Super Bowl. Obviously you don't know how the Rooney's operate. Bill Cowher lost 4 AFC home Championship games, all being the favorites and from 1998-2000, three years in a row, we went under .500 or at .500 and missed the playoffs in each. In 2003 we had a 5 game losing streak and had a miserable defense and the other side of the ball wasn't that much better. Cowher didn't win his first Super Bowl until 2005 and resigned a year later. The Rooney's stick by their men from day one and that's why the Steelers are one of the most stabled franchise's in all of sports. Even in our down years, it doesn't last too long. I know there's panic and we've lost some crummy games, but discussing Tomlin to be fired is despicable, esp since he's one of the most inspiring, young head coaches in the NFL. I love him as a coach. I love everything about the man and how he handles things. He has ways with words, is a no non sense guy, and does things his way and is an excellent leader.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:30 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Lol. He'd play for sure if they had the 6 full days and a couple days of practice off that Tomlin usually give him, but in 4 days until game day is hardly enough time to rest a hamstring injury, strained one at that.


If you guys lose to the Browns it's time for Tomlin to go. What is your opinion of him as a coach? He's always reminded me of the guy from Office Space who shows up at their door pretending to be addicted to crack and selling magazines.


We aren't the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions. So we have a 4 game slide, the first under Tomlin. Big deal, we'll get it right, esp since what is happening on the field is just the epitome of bad bounces, bad luck and inconsistency. Players play, coaches coach. Tomlin's first year we went to the playoffs, and the 2nd we won a Super Bowl. Obviously you don't know how the Rooney's operate. Bill Cowher lost 4 AFC home Championship games, all being the favorites and from 1998-2000, three years in a row, we went under .500 or at .500 and missed the playoffs in each. In 2003 we had a 5 game losing streak and had a miserable defense on both sides of the ball. He didn't win his first Super Bowl until 2005 and resigned a year later. The Rooney's stick by their men from day one and that's why the Steelers are one of the most stabled franchise's in all of sports. Even in our down years, it doesn't last too long. I know there's panic and we've lost some crummy games, but discussing Tomlin to be fired is despicable, esp since he's one of the most inspiring, head coaches in the NFL. I love him. I love everything about the man. He has ways with words, is a no non sense guy, and does things his way and is an excellent leader.


Yes I know about the history of "sticking with things" and I wouldn't expect them to fire him. He just doesn't do much for me.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:36 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hines you pussy, man up and play, it's just a hamstring! Must not be very tough...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4722075

:lol: :lol:


Lol. He'd play for sure if they had the 6 full days and a couple days of practice off that Tomlin usually give him, but in 4 days until game day is hardly enough time to rest a hamstring injury, strained one at that.


If you guys lose to the Browns it's time for Tomlin to go. What is your opinion of him as a coach? He's always reminded me of the guy from Office Space who shows up at their door pretending to be addicted to crack and selling magazines.


We aren't the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions. So we have a 4 game slide, the first under Tomlin. Big deal, we'll get it right, esp since what is happening on the field is just the epitome of bad bounces, bad luck and inconsistency. Players play, coaches coach. Tomlin's first year we went to the playoffs, and the 2nd we won a Super Bowl. Obviously you don't know how the Rooney's operate. Bill Cowher lost 4 AFC home Championship games, all being the favorites and from 1998-2000, three years in a row, we went under .500 or at .500 and missed the playoffs in each. In 2003 we had a 5 game losing streak and had a miserable defense on both sides of the ball. He didn't win his first Super Bowl until 2005 and resigned a year later. The Rooney's stick by their men from day one and that's why the Steelers are one of the most stabled franchise's in all of sports. Even in our down years, it doesn't last too long. I know there's panic and we've lost some crummy games, but discussing Tomlin to be fired is despicable, esp since he's one of the most inspiring, head coaches in the NFL. I love him. I love everything about the man. He has ways with words, is a no non sense guy, and does things his way and is an excellent leader.


Yes I know about the history of "sticking with things" and I wouldn't expect them to fire him. He just doesn't do much for me.


Fair enough. If I were a Cleveland fan, I would feel the same way! But what exactly do you want him to do? He's no Bill Cowher who claws down your throat and spits in your face. If you'd ever watch his press conferences, he's entertaining, doesn't go through the motions and gives an honest opinion on every status that he's apart of, no shadiness with Tomlin. The players warmed up to him quick and he runs things his way. Following Bill Cowher is a tough act to follow and he made us forget about Cowher pretty quickly in Steel Town.

One thing I like about Tomlin that Cowher NEVER did was that he plays the 11 men that gives his team the best chance of winning and if that means not doing this and that, he'll do it. Cowher played favorites WAY too often, and great players sat on the bench because of it. Tomlin, like this week, has threatened to sit starters that aren't performing up to expectation and is falling into a trap and he is said to be indeed shaking up the lineup. Cowher would never do that. He was stubborn and played major favorites.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:40 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Fair enough. Being a Cleveland fan, I would feel the same way! But what exactly do you want him to do? He's no Bill Cowher who claws down your throat and spits in your face. If you'd ever watch his press conferences, he's entertaining, doesn't go through the motions and gives an honest opinion on every status that he's apart of, no shadiness with Tomlin. The players warmed up to him quick and he runs things his way. Following Bill Cowher is a tough act to follow and he made us forget about Cowher pretty quickly in Steel Town.

One thing I like about Tomlin that Cowher NEVER did was that he plays the 11 men that gives his team the best chance of winning and if that means not doing this and that, he'll do it. Cowher played favorites WAY too often, and great players sat on the bench because of it. Tomlin, like this week, has threatened to sit starters that aren't performing up to expectation and is falling into a trap and he is said to be indeed shaking up the lineup. Cowher would never do that. He was stubborn and played major favorites.


Well I was curious wht you thought, some of my buds don't feel like you do. And this goes back to when things were better for the Steelers, like last year and 06.

You just have to wonder what's going on when they can't play a fourth quarter or show any fire to save their lives when they are defending their SB... Not entirely the coach's fault, but hey...
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:49 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Fair enough. Being a Cleveland fan, I would feel the same way! But what exactly do you want him to do? He's no Bill Cowher who claws down your throat and spits in your face. If you'd ever watch his press conferences, he's entertaining, doesn't go through the motions and gives an honest opinion on every status that he's apart of, no shadiness with Tomlin. The players warmed up to him quick and he runs things his way. Following Bill Cowher is a tough act to follow and he made us forget about Cowher pretty quickly in Steel Town.

One thing I like about Tomlin that Cowher NEVER did was that he plays the 11 men that gives his team the best chance of winning and if that means not doing this and that, he'll do it. Cowher played favorites WAY too often, and great players sat on the bench because of it. Tomlin, like this week, has threatened to sit starters that aren't performing up to expectation and is falling into a trap and he is said to be indeed shaking up the lineup. Cowher would never do that. He was stubborn and played major favorites.


Well I was curious wht you thought, some of my buds don't feel like you do. And this goes back to when things were better for the Steelers, like last year and 06.

You just have to wonder what's going on when they can't play a fourth quarter or show any fire to save their lives when they are defending their SB... Not entirely the coach's fault, but hey...


Steelers fans tend to fall off the deep end whenever we lose or have a bad outing. I've seen it countless number of times and they panic more than ANY OTHER FANBASE in the league. The comments are so ludicrous over the past few weeks and the people that are saying these things are so out of whack and don't understand how things work.

As far as the defense crumbling.. I agree. The thing is, in EVERY game we have lost, outside the Cincy game (which was a stalemate) we've had 4th quarter leads and dominated most of the game. Coaches can't catch dropped balls, false starts, personal fouls, nor do they slip and fall or have a mis-communication when the play is being called. This year is hard to watch. This isn't 2006, 2003, or 2000. We were just BAD then and we fell in the hole quick and were getting beat almost in every phase, from schemes to being out manned.

This year, it's disappointing and uncharacteristic like. We have a great team and have TONS of talent. I witnessed one of the best defense's ever last season. Same guys this year and they tend to be underachieving. We lost our 2 aces on the D front and Secondary. Aaron Smith and Troy. We can afford to do without one, but both is a killer and it IS showing. We just aren't playing good football. That's on the players, not the head coach.. PERIOD.
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