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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:02 am

Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:05 am

NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


That's right, you should be fighting over a band or something!!! :wink:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:06 am

NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


It doesn't affect their life, but their mood, certainly. And judging by your logic, then thousands upon thousand upon thousands needs to check their priorities. Nothing anyone could do about it. Go take 5,000 dollars out of your bank account and burn it. That's the way Gator feels at that point and I bet you'd feel like shit if you did it. Even though it's two different things, it's still the same feeling and nerve. I mean, noone will die over 5,000 dollars, right? Come on, cut the dude some slack.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:07 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


That's right, you should be fighting over a band or something!!! :wink:


Michigan Girl just OWNED this whole thread, Way to go, sweets. :lol: :lol:

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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:09 am

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I'm in the same boat and I'm as passionate as it gets and I relate to Gator's feelings. If you don't have a passion in this fucked up world, then quit! No, it's nothing life threatening, that's just taking it TOO FAR when trying to bolster up someones feelings, but the dude, like many of us here, have an internal connection to our passion and football happens to be it. We feel connected in such a way that it's like a high and a band of brotherhood. I don't fault Gator for feeling this way and no matter what anyone says, this loss will hurt him for awhile. I've been there time and time again, in fact I STILL have an empty stomach about the Raiders loss, and the losing to the fuckin' Chiefs. Life will go on indeed, but disappointment and emptiness shouldn't be denied and it will still be felt and that's what makes us human.

Everybody on here is a hypocrite to get on Gator for it since we've all felt it in one form or another. We've all been fired up and cheered WILDLY when our team scores, or wins on a last second chance. What makes sorrow any different? Sports is an emotional thing and when your connected to it, then noone has the right to judge. People take sports pretty seriously and that's all that's to it.

Could be worse. Soccer fans in other countries indeed murder each other when a team wins or loses. Crazy, but it happens.


You shoulda seen the tantrum I threw when the Cavs dropped game 1 of the Orlando series last season. I was drunk and pissed and I knew that we were going to lose the series from then out. It was epic and I was pissed the whole night and most of the next day. I had to endure some shit from my Florida-based cousins, but as a sports fan, you have to be willing to take as well as you can dish.
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Postby Angel » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:11 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


That's right, you should be fighting over a band or something!!! :wink:

:lol: :lol:

I am LMAO!!!!!
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:12 am

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ScarabGator wrote:Come on Dean, you know that while some of those teams were down this year (Georgia) the SEC is still top to bottom the most talented conference. Texas and Cinncinnati will know that very soon.


Didn't you just learn not to write checks your mouth can't cash? Last year Utah smoked the 2nd place SEC team. The PAC 10 went 6-0. If UT beats Bama and Cincy beats UF, then what will the spin be? You can't have it both ways. You can't talk it up and fail on the field, then fall back on the "well we're down this year" card. The PAC 10 has been down for 5 years and still goes 5-1, 4-2 and 6-0 in bowl games but I don't talk about them being the best. Right now though, their best 5 teams are better than the SEC's top 5 no doubt.

I can Cincy running over and through UF's defense. You got exposed last week to the run. Your defense is not that good. Playing Troy, FLA Intl and Vandy will inflate the stats.

I want to see the PAC 10 play the SEC in a bowl game.


I'd love to see Cinci do something shitty Ohio State couldn't and topple UF, but I don't think they have the defense to do it. They are more than capable of putting some points on the board though. It's hard to see UF losing this game barring a complete mental destruction/meltdown.


Cincy played a pretty similar schedule to UF. And they haven't lost yet. If Nebraska could take Texas down to 0:00 which they did and should have won, Cincy can beat UF. I am surfe Tebow won't let that happen though. he can lead no question but he can't play defense.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:12 am

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I'm in the same boat and I'm as passionate as it gets and I relate to Gator's feelings. If you don't have a passion in this fucked up world, then quit! No, it's nothing life threatening, that's just taking it TOO FAR when trying to bolster up someones feelings, but the dude, like many of us here, have an internal connection to our passion and football happens to be it. We feel connected in such a way that it's like a high and a band of brotherhood. I don't fault Gator for feeling this way and no matter what anyone says, this loss will hurt him for awhile. I've been there time and time again, in fact I STILL have an empty stomach about the Raiders loss, and the losing to the fuckin' Chiefs. Life will go on indeed, but disappointment and emptiness shouldn't be denied and it will still be felt and that's what makes us human.

Everybody on here is a hypocrite to get on Gator for it since we've all felt it in one form or another. We've all been fired up and cheered WILDLY when our team scores, or wins on a last second chance. What makes sorrow any different? Sports is an emotional thing and when your connected to it, then noone has the right to judge. People take sports pretty seriously and that's all that's to it.

Could be worse. Soccer fans in other countries indeed murder each other when a team wins or loses. Crazy, but it happens.


You shoulda seen the tantrum I threw when the Cavs dropped game 1 of the Orlando series last season. I was drunk and pissed and I knew that we were going to lose the series from then out. It was epic and I was pissed the whole night and most of the next day. I had to endure some shit from my Florida-based cousins, but as a sports fan, you have to be willing to take as well as you can dish.


Trust me, I believe it. I've put my hand through my cellar door once. I'm one of those after the fact guys. I freak out during the game, and when the Steelers lose from stupidity, I walk away accepting it. It isn't until like 3 hours later until I get boiled up and need to yell and talk about it the next 4 days and it won't go away until I see a victory. Then I'll get pissed off again when we miss the playoffs by a game when we lose to the Chiefs, Raiders, Bears, Bengals twice, and Ravens, all with leads. Then I'll get even more pissed, and then repeat the cycle! :lol:

It all comes with the package. 8) I've seen many games to where I've been on cloud nine. You said it best, if you can't take it as well as you dish it,then you're in trouble.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:16 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


It doesn't affect their life, but their mood, certainly. And judging by your logic, then thousands upon thousand upon thousands needs to check their priorities. Nothing anyone could do about it. Go take 5,000 dollars out of your bank account and burn it. That's the way Gator feels at that point and I bet you'd feel like shit if you did it. Even though it's two different things, it's still the same feeling and nerve. I mean, noone will die over 5,000 dollars, right? Come on, cut the dude some slack.


That's why I called him into this thread. The longer he stayed out the tougher it was going to be. He really hasn't felt a great burden...yet. I am not piling on the guy. I am as passionate as he is. It helps when my alma mater is the worst team in Division 1. I had no hopes when the season started, yet I love my school as much as he loves his. RedJoe was right though, Gator needs to come in and take his lumps, not offer puny excuses such as "our defense didn't come to play" or "Bama wanted it more." They got beat by a much better team. Bama is a lot better than UF is. That is a fact. That game was over a minute into the contest.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:17 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


It doesn't affect their life, but their mood, certainly. And judging by your logic, then thousands upon thousand upon thousands needs to check their priorities. Nothing anyone could do about it. Go take 5,000 dollars out of your bank account and burn it. That's the way Gator feels at that point and I bet you'd feel like shit if you did it. Even though it's two different things, it's still the same feeling and nerve. I mean, noone will die over 5,000 dollars, right? Come on, cut the dude some slack.


That's why I called him into this thread. The longer he stayed out the tougher it was going to be. He really hasn't felt a great burden...yet. I am not piling on the guy. I am as passionate as he is. It helps when my alma mater is the worst team in Division 1. I had no hopes when the season started, yet I love my school as much as he loves his. RedJoe was right though, Gator needs to come in and take his lumps, not offer puny excuses such as "our defense didn't come to play" or "Bama wanted it more." They got beat by a much better team. Bama is a lot better than UF is. That is a fact. That game was over a minute into the contest.


I agree 100%. Good post.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:27 am

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University of Cincinnati football coach Brian Kelly told Dan Patrick today that he is going to evaluate his future in the next few days and that there is no guarantee he'll be coaching in the Sugar Bowl.

And ESPN is reporting that Kelly will interview with Notre Dame on Tuesday in New York City.

Kelly told Patrick that he would know his future by Saturday. Kelly's comments came the day after UC learned it will play Florida in the Jan. 1 Sugar Bowl.

"There's a chance I could look at another job," Kelly said. "I haven't made that decision yet."



Fuck me to tears... :evil:


What a shitty thing to do to his players , his team, and even the school who gave him a chance to elevate himself to even be in the hunt for the ND job. Coaches' ability to do this should be contracted out or perhaps forbidden by NCAA regulation until the season is over.
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Postby hoagiepete » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:49 am

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University of Cincinnati football coach Brian Kelly told Dan Patrick today that he is going to evaluate his future in the next few days and that there is no guarantee he'll be coaching in the Sugar Bowl.

And ESPN is reporting that Kelly will interview with Notre Dame on Tuesday in New York City.

Kelly told Patrick that he would know his future by Saturday. Kelly's comments came the day after UC learned it will play Florida in the Jan. 1 Sugar Bowl.

"There's a chance I could look at another job," Kelly said. "I haven't made that decision yet."



Fuck me to tears... :evil:


What a shitty thing to do to his players , his team, and even the school who gave him a chance to elevate himself to even be in the hunt for the ND job. Coaches' ability to do this should be contracted out or perhaps forbidden by NCAA regulation until the season is over.


Happens all the time and it sucks. North Carolina did that to KU with Roy Williams on the eve of the Final Four a few years back. NC's timing was to purposely to turn the spotlight on them, even though they were home sitting on their thumbs crying the Powder Blues.

I have thoroughly enjoyed ND's demise. Hope they get another bad hire. What they have done this year reeks as well. I feel sorry for the seniors that will miss an opportunity to play in a bowl game. Was there not a bowl bid available that is played on NBC?
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:52 am

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What a shitty thing to do to his players , his team, and even the school who gave him a chance to elevate himself to even be in the hunt for the ND job. Coaches' ability to do this should be contracted out or perhaps forbidden by NCAA regulation until the season is over.


I disagree.

Everyone knows a program like a Cincinnati is a stepping stone job, a job to get you to the next level, much like Utah was for urban Meyer, and Washington State was for Mike Price. The thing with Price is he loved WSU so much he stayed on and coached the Rose Bowl team against Oklahoma and got waxed. Not very bright Mike. I believe Alabama saw that game and said, "uh oh." Sounds like Kelly is ND bound. If I were a Bearcat, I wouldn't want him coaching my Sugar Bowl team. I would be hurt but I would understand too. Every coach wants that dream job. Notre Dame is the ultimate dream job in college athletics, let alone in sports period, despite what anyone here says, it is the mega apex. Kelly has to take that job or be certified as insane. Sure Cincy is a great story, but this is Notre fucking Dame we're talking about. Even urban Meyer would be crazy to turn it down despite what gator says. Florida ain't no Notre Dame in any regard, academics, athletics, money or power. Congrats to Kelly. I wonder if he'll change is pro choic e stance to appease those fucking Catholics? I hate Catholics.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:54 am

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What a shitty thing to do to his players , his team, and even the school who gave him a chance to elevate himself to even be in the hunt for the ND job. Coaches' ability to do this should be contracted out or perhaps forbidden by NCAA regulation until the season is over.


I disagree.

Everyone knows a program like a Cincinnati is a stepping stone job, a job to get you to the next level, much like Utah was for urban Meyer, and Washington State was for Mike Price. The thing with Price is he loved WSU so much he stayed on and coached the Rose Bowl team against Oklahoma and got waxed. Not very bright Mike. I believe Alabama saw that game and said, "uh oh." Sounds like Kelly is ND bound. If I were a Bearcat, I wouldn't want him coaching my Sugar Bowl team. I would be hurt but I would understand too. Every coach wants that dream job. Notre Dame is the ultimate dream job in college athletics, let alone in sports period, despite what anyone here says, it is the mega apex. Kelly has to take that job or be certified as insane. Sure Cincy is a great story, but this is Notre fucking Dame we're talking about. Even urban Meyer would be crazy to turn it down despite what gator says. Florida ain't no Notre Dame in any regard, academics, athletics, money or power. Congrats to Kelly. I wonder if he'll change is pro choic e stance to appease those fucking Catholics? I hate Catholics.


There's nothing wrong with using it as a stepping stone. There is, however, plenty wrong with not even finishing the job you started and rubbing it in the faces of the athletes who got you the opportunity you're rubbing their face in as you hightail it outta town. How would you feel if you were a player?

My point is, they should have to wait til the season is over. Nothing more.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:56 am

And remember, college athletics is at least supposed to be about the kids/athletes first, not the coaches/boosters/alumni/administration. I'm not myopic enough to think that's the case, but they could at least pretend that it's about the kids even half as much as it is about every one else/the money.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:03 am

I get what you are saying but the season never ends Matt. Right now is recruiting season and ND wants him out in the country picking off players to come to Indiana. If recruiting wasn't to begin until after the Bowl season, then it could work, but we all know these fuckin coaches are texting, emailing and so forth right now, secretly courting the next Ingrahm, Gerhardt and McCoy to their respective teams. And oh yeah, ND needs a QB, as Clausen just declared this morning. Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.
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Postby Don » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:25 am

Rodriguez did the same thing to W. Virginia, didn't he when he went to Michigan?
Look for Golden Tate to declare, if he he hasn't done so already.
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Postby xflajrnylvr » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:32 am

Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:38 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.


That's right, you should be fighting over a band or something!!! :wink:


well most of us have been fighting over journey for the last 11 years... the college football debate is relatively new and FRESH... and only goes on during FOOTBALL SEASON... and kind of fun... from the highest of highs to the lowest feeling of disppointment over a loss... its all in the emotion and as everyone is saying PASSION... live it love it and enjoy it...

and MG.. the post of the month so far... timeless!!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:41 am

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Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


If he plays QB in the NFL with any degree of success, I'll be 100% shocked. That awkward throwing from the hip motion just isn't gonna cut it in the NFL. But, the guy is certainly dedicated and has leadership skills, so I'm not ruling out some possibility that he'll convert to another position and do well. I'll just be SHOCKED if QB is where that may happen.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:42 am

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Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall. In fact, this might be the first time ever that 2 D lineman, or 2 O lineman could be drafted #1 and # 2. Clausen will be high on everyone's draft board, he's certainly top 5 material, but Tebow is a 2nd-3rd round choice, NOWHERE NEAR 1st round material.
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Postby xflajrnylvr » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:49 am

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Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall. In fact, this might be the first time ever that 2 D lineman, or 2 O lineman could be drafted #1 and # 2. Clausen will be high on everyone's draft board, he's certainly top 5 material, but Tebow is a 2nd-3rd round choice, NOWHERE NEAR 1st round material.


totally agree i htink TIm will go as halfback /te type of position and definately in a later round
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Postby Don » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:49 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:
Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall. In fact, this might be the first time ever that 2 D lineman, or 2 O lineman could be drafted #1 and # 2. Clausen will be high on everyone's draft board, he's certainly top 5 material, but Tebow is a 2nd-3rd round choice, NOWHERE NEAR 1st round material.


Bulk him up for tightend or slim him down for safety. Some of the running Nebraska QBs went in as defensive players, don't think any of them lasted very long however.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:08 am

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xflajrnylvr wrote:
Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall. In fact, this might be the first time ever that 2 D lineman, or 2 O lineman could be drafted #1 and # 2. Clausen will be high on everyone's draft board, he's certainly top 5 material, but Tebow is a 2nd-3rd round choice, NOWHERE NEAR 1st round material.


Bulk him up for tightend or slim him down for safety. Some of the running Nebraska QBs went in as defensive players, don't think any of them lasted very long however.


Safety? Are you kidding? Playing safety is a whole different beast and involves a whole different body texture and body work to play, esp that of a quarterback making a transition. It's hard enough for a college running back to convert to WR in the NFL and that's as skilled as it gets. No way a slow, bulky Tim Tebow will be able to play safety at the pro level. It'll never happen and even thoughts of that make me laugh.

He'll go as a quarterback first and foremost. I wouldn't be surprised if teams may ask him to convert maybe to either a Tight End for certain goaline packages, or just a QB that can come in and be used as a decoy to run a Wild Cat formation. I'm stumped on what he could do in the NFL because he certainly won't be able to start as a drop back passer in the pros. He will be a career backup regardless, but he'll be selected as a QB and maybe his heart and determination can prove us all wrong, but that's where it ends. He won't be anything spectacular.
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Postby Don » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:12 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
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YoungJRNY wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:
Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall. In fact, this might be the first time ever that 2 D lineman, or 2 O lineman could be drafted #1 and # 2. Clausen will be high on everyone's draft board, he's certainly top 5 material, but Tebow is a 2nd-3rd round choice, NOWHERE NEAR 1st round material.


Bulk him up for tightend or slim him down for safety. Some of the running Nebraska QBs went in as defensive players, don't think any of them lasted very long however.


Safety? Are you kidding? Playing safety is a whole different beast and involves a whole different body texture and body work to play, esp that of a quarterback making a transition. It's hard enough for a college running back to convert to WR in the NFL and that's as skilled as it gets. No way a slow, bulky Tim Tebow will be able to play safety at the pro level. It'll never happen and even thoughts of that make me laugh.

He'll go as a quarterback first and foremost. I wouldn't be surprised if teams may ask him to convert maybe to either a Tight End for certain goaline packages, or just a QB that can come in and be used as a decoy to run a Wild Cat formation. I'm stumped on what he could do in the NFL because he certainly won't be able to start as a drop back passer in the pros. He will be a career backup regardless, but he'll be selected as a QB and maybe his heart and determination can prove us all wrong, but that's where it ends. He won't be anything spectacular.


Scott Frost was drafted as a safety and then switched over to defensive back where he played for six years. It's not that far fetched.

if you take Tebow as a QB, you'll have to pay him for that, which will be more money. Just to be a backup? Draft him for an unspecified position so you don't throw money down the drain. OR pull a Charlie Ward on his ass and don't draft him at all. let him come in the league as as undrafted and see if he sticks with someone. The NFL is dropping revenue sharing, they're done with the parity experiment. low revenue Teams will need to spend their money wisely and not waste it on high salaried backup players.
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Postby lights1961 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:22 am

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University of Cincinnati football coach Brian Kelly told Dan Patrick today that he is going to evaluate his future in the next few days and that there is no guarantee he'll be coaching in the Sugar Bowl.

And ESPN is reporting that Kelly will interview with Notre Dame on Tuesday in New York City.

Kelly told Patrick that he would know his future by Saturday. Kelly's comments came the day after UC learned it will play Florida in the Jan. 1 Sugar Bowl.

"There's a chance I could look at another job," Kelly said. "I haven't made that decision yet."



Fuck me to tears... :evil:


tis the season for firings and hirings... would love to see Dan McCarney get another head coaching job...
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Postby Tomulator » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:24 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Eh, I wouldn't congratulate them either, they were sitting there doing the gator chomp and all that. Even if not, there's no rule or even custom that says he needs to do that. I don't like Tebow and I HATE the media love affair with him, but I won't fault him for that.


It's nothing that Florida wouldn't have done to the other team had THEY won!

What goes around....comes around sorry to say!

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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:26 am

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Rockindeano wrote: Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.


AS much as I have enjoyed TIms years at florida Ill agree with Dean he wont be a high draft choice and clausen will probably be the first Qb selected this year


This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall. In fact, this might be the first time ever that 2 D lineman, or 2 O lineman could be drafted #1 and # 2. Clausen will be high on everyone's draft board, he's certainly top 5 material, but Tebow is a 2nd-3rd round choice, NOWHERE NEAR 1st round material.


Bulk him up for tightend or slim him down for safety. Some of the running Nebraska QBs went in as defensive players, don't think any of them lasted very long however.


Safety? Are you kidding? Playing safety is a whole different beast and involves a whole different body texture and body work to play, esp that of a quarterback making a transition. It's hard enough for a college running back to convert to WR in the NFL and that's as skilled as it gets. No way a slow, bulky Tim Tebow will be able to play safety at the pro level. It'll never happen and even thoughts of that make me laugh.

He'll go as a quarterback first and foremost. I wouldn't be surprised if teams may ask him to convert maybe to either a Tight End for certain goaline packages, or just a QB that can come in and be used as a decoy to run a Wild Cat formation. I'm stumped on what he could do in the NFL because he certainly won't be able to start as a drop back passer in the pros. He will be a career backup regardless, but he'll be selected as a QB and maybe his heart and determination can prove us all wrong, but that's where it ends. He won't be anything spectacular.


Scott Frost was drafted as a safety and then switched over to defensive back where he played for six years. It's not that far fetched.

if you take Tebow as a QB, you'll have to pay him for that, which will be more money. Just to be a backup? Draft him for an unspecified position so you don't throw money down the drain. OR pull a Charlie Ward on his ass and don't draft him at all.


I remember him being mentioned a few times but that's it. There's a reason why he's only lasted 6 NFL seasons on like 5 NFL teams and only made 1 start out of those years and his best numbers total consist of 1 Int and 15 tackles. Tebow only runs a 4.6 40 and that's considered terribly slow where secondary players and safety's at least have the agility and speed of 4.2's 4.3's or 4.4's. It's as far fetched as it gets, the dude would get torched playing any style of defense. Maybe he'd be a 3rd down back? Who knows where the NFL might claim him when it's all said and done.
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Postby Tomulator » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:42 am

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ScarabGator wrote:Come on Dean, you know that while some of those teams were down this year (Georgia) the SEC is still top to bottom the most talented conference. Texas and Cinncinnati will know that very soon.


Didn't you just learn not to write checks your mouth can't cash? Last year Utah smoked the 2nd place SEC team. The PAC 10 went 6-0. If UT beats Bama and Cincy beats UF, then what will the spin be? You can't have it both ways. You can't talk it up and fail on the field, then fall back on the "well we're down this year" card. The PAC 10 has been down for 5 years and still goes 5-1, 4-2 and 6-0 in bowl games but I don't talk about them being the best. Right now though, their best 5 teams are better than the SEC's top 5 no doubt.

I can Cincy running over and through UF's defense. You got exposed last week to the run. Your defense is not that good. Playing Troy, FLA Intl and Vandy will inflate the stats.

I want to see the PAC 10 play the SEC in a bowl game.


I'd love to see Cinci do something shitty Ohio State couldn't and topple UF, but I don't think they have the defense to do it. They are more than capable of putting some points on the board though. It's hard to see UF losing this game barring a complete mental destruction/meltdown.


Hey hey hey...just calm down there! Ohio State is NOT shitty...poopy maybe...but NOT shitty!
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Postby Tomulator » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:46 am

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University of Cincinnati football coach Brian Kelly told Dan Patrick today that he is going to evaluate his future in the next few days and that there is no guarantee he'll be coaching in the Sugar Bowl.

And ESPN is reporting that Kelly will interview with Notre Dame on Tuesday in New York City.

Kelly told Patrick that he would know his future by Saturday. Kelly's comments came the day after UC learned it will play Florida in the Jan. 1 Sugar Bowl.

"There's a chance I could look at another job," Kelly said. "I haven't made that decision yet."



Fuck me to tears... :evil:


What a shitty thing to do to his players , his team, and even the school who gave him a chance to elevate himself to even be in the hunt for the ND job. Coaches' ability to do this should be contracted out or perhaps forbidden by NCAA regulation until the season is over.


Yeah...even "shitty" Ohio State wouldn't pull such a lame stunt!!

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