conversationpc wrote:Here's what it boils down to for me...Killing an innocent human life is wrong and, except when the life of the mother is in jeopardy, it's really unnecessary. And before you try to tell me that I am not concerned about the mental well-being of the mother, her feelings, etc., let me call BS on that. My wife and I were foster parents and have also adopted, so we do our part when we can, not that I want recognition for it. It's what caring people are supposed to do.
Those who support the right for abortion will argue that the unborn child is not a real human person or that he/she is not alive. That is flat-out bunk. But let's pretend that we just don't know when life begins. Why don't we just use common sense in that case and err on the side of safety that perhaps life MAY begin at conception instead of just using the mentality that, oh well, we'll just kill the child and hope that he/she really wasn't alive to begin with?
Let me finish by saying that I am sympathetic to women who've had abortions and why they might've chosen to have one in the first place. I know women who've had abortions and I don't condemn them, belittle them, etc. My calling as a follower of Jesus Christ is to stand up for what I believe, forgive, and show His love to them.
Thank you. You and I rarely see eye-to-eye on religion or ethical debates, but you've never shown anything but respect to me, and I've never felt anything but the same in return.
Shall we agree to disagree, and move on to a more pleasant topic?
Top call on being a foster parent, btw - I've done relief care for the children of cancer sufferers, taking them out camping or on holiday for a few days at a time and after 3 or 4 days I'm worn out. Usually we do it so the parents can have a few days where they don't have to worry about protecting the kids from seeing Mum or Dad being sick with chemo, or so they can have a few days to break down and deal with what's going on without worrying about upsetting their children. However, there are nearly always issues with the kids; either they ask us tough questions because they are worried about what's going on, or they can finally let go and grieve without worrying their parents, or they act out on their frustration and fear. It's tough to deal with, but I always know that after a few days I'm giving them back to loving, caring parents. Having the strength to take on children from damaged homes long term, dealing with all the issues that entails, maybe having to face giving those children back to the family that messed up so badly in the first place - that's a hell of a lot of strength and compassion. The world should be more thankful for people like you and your wife who can do that.
Why treat life as a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in an attractive & well-preserved body? Get there by skidding in sideways, a glass of wine in one hand, chocolate in the other, body totally worn out, screaming WOOHOO! What a ride!