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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:02 am

steveo777 wrote:
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steveo777 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Perry just needs to enjoy NOMOTO's Generous pension fund, ride around in the publicity golf cart when prompted, and keep talking about that old time MAGIC and what not.
That is of course, when he's not busy working in his garden or whatever else he does now days.


No. He just needs to throw caution to the wind and release that album he's been working on even if he doesn't want to sing live to publicize it. Why waste all that time and energy and never release it. It doesn't make sense to me. He can get some kind of record deal on it.


You're beginning to sound a little Loony Jana, been hanging around down stairs to much? :lol:



Do people really think a new album is coming from Nostrildamus?


Yes ... and soon.


Got proof?


Perhaps an album in stores by June. Other than that ... nope. :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:06 am

Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Perry just needs to enjoy NOMOTO's Generous pension fund, ride around in the publicity golf cart when prompted, and keep talking about that old time MAGIC and what not.
That is of course, when he's not busy working in his garden or whatever else he does now days.


No. He just needs to throw caution to the wind and release that album he's been working on even if he doesn't want to sing live to publicize it. Why waste all that time and energy and never release it. It doesn't make sense to me. He can get some kind of record deal on it.


You're beginning to sound a little Loony Jana, been hanging around down stairs to much? :lol:



Do people really think a new album is coming from Nostrildamus?


Yes ... and soon.


Got proof?


Perhaps an album in stores by June. Other than that ... nope. :wink:


I knew you were fucking loon...I just knew it. You had me fooled for a long time but now your cover is blown. You did a damn good job while it lasted. :wink:
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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:09 am

steveo777 wrote:I knew you were fucking loon...I just knew it. You had me fooled for a long time but now your cover is blown. You did a damn good job while it lasted. :wink:


I have never in my life purchased a Steve Perry solo album and I never will. I only like his work in Journey. Street Talk was pretty good but the other 2 albums were just terrible. I would have rather listened to someone throw babies into a blender.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:09 am

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steveo777 wrote:I knew you were fucking loon...I just knew it. You had me fooled for a long time but now your cover is blown. You did a damn good job while it lasted. :wink:


I have never in my life purchased a Steve Perry solo album and I never will. I only like his work in Journey. Street Talk was pretty good but the other 2 albums were just terrible. I would have rather listened to someone throw babies into a blender.


I saw fucking Street Talk in Wayne's SUV the first time we hung out you son of a bitch. I got you now.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:12 am

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steveo777 wrote:I knew you were fucking loon...I just knew it. You had me fooled for a long time but now your cover is blown. You did a damn good job while it lasted. :wink:


I have never in my life purchased a Steve Perry solo album and I never will. I only like his work in Journey. Street Talk was pretty good but the other 2 albums were just terrible. I would have rather listened to someone throw babies into a blender.


I saw fucking Street Talk in Wayne's SUV the first time we hung out you son of a bitch. I got you now.


Yes, you did. We listened to nothing but Journey non-stop that trip and I brought that CD along and unwrapped it. Rhiannon gave me that. She said she had an extra copy. I don't even have it anymore. I think PDiddy75 has it. We (Wayne and I) listened to it and laughed at how dated it sounded. You ain't got shit, junior. :lol:
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Postby Jana » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:17 am

Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Perry just needs to enjoy NOMOTO's Generous pension fund, ride around in the publicity golf cart when prompted, and keep talking about that old time MAGIC and what not.
That is of course, when he's not busy working in his garden or whatever else he does now days.


No. He just needs to throw caution to the wind and release that album he's been working on even if he doesn't want to sing live to publicize it. Why waste all that time and energy and never release it. It doesn't make sense to me. He can get some kind of record deal on it.


You're beginning to sound a little Loony Jana, been hanging around down stairs to much? :lol:



Do people really think a new album is coming from Nostrildamus?


Yes ... and soon.


Got proof?


Perhaps an album in stores by June. Other than that ... nope. :wink:


Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:55 am

Saint John wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:I knew you were fucking loon...I just knew it. You had me fooled for a long time but now your cover is blown. You did a damn good job while it lasted. :wink:


I have never in my life purchased a Steve Perry solo album and I never will. I only like his work in Journey. Street Talk was pretty good but the other 2 albums were just terrible. I would have rather listened to someone throw babies into a blender.


I saw fucking Street Talk in Wayne's SUV the first time we hung out you son of a bitch. I got you now.


Yes, you did. We listened to nothing but Journey non-stop that trip and I brought that CD along and unwrapped it. Rhiannon gave me that. She said she had an extra copy. I don't even have it anymore. I think PDiddy75 has it. We (Wayne and I) listened to it and laughed at how dated it sounded. You ain't got shit, junior. :lol:


How can you laugh at Perry's material and call it outdated and not do the same for Journey? Fuck, you listened to Journey the whole trip? Glad I didn't make that voyage. I would have squeezed your balls off and threw over the highway bridge.
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Postby portland » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:05 pm

Jana wrote:
Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Perry just needs to enjoy NOMOTO's Generous pension fund, ride around in the publicity golf cart when prompted, and keep talking about that old time MAGIC and what not.
That is of course, when he's not busy working in his garden or whatever else he does now days.


No. He just needs to throw caution to the wind and release that album he's been working on even if he doesn't want to sing live to publicize it. Why waste all that time and energy and never release it. It doesn't make sense to me. He can get some kind of record deal on it.


You're beginning to sound a little Loony Jana, been hanging around down stairs to much? :lol:



Do people really think a new album is coming from Nostrildamus?


Yes ... and soon.


Got proof?


Perhaps an album in stores by June. Other than that ... nope. :wink:


Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:



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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:59 am

Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:12 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:


How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:18 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:


How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?


Most probably a reference to the re recorded material.
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Postby Don » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:22 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:


How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?


The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:23 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:


How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?

I would hope the ol' magic would return and that would be so awesome!!!
Let's hope the well has not run dry, Revelation did not suit my taste at all!! :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:24 am

Since 78 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:


How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?


Most probably a reference to the re recorded material.

Perry wouldn't do that ...so no!! :wink:
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Postby Don » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:28 am

I've sort of swung back to Neal's corner for the moment but if he peddles some garbage catered solely towards his new found fan base (ballad bomber material), I'm going to end up very disappointed about it. That fan base was pretty non existent on his solo tour, by the way.
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:35 am

Gunbot wrote:I've sort of swung back to Neal's corner for the moment but if he peddles some garbage catered solely towards his new found fan base (ballad bomber material), I'm going to end up very disappointed about it. That fan base was pretty non existent on his solo tour, by the way.


I know what you mean. I was with some family and friends the other night, 90% of which are Filipino. We played the Live in Manila DVD after dinner. All those people cared about were the old ballads and pretty much didn't know about, didn't care and didn't want to know about anything else. You could tell.....Open Arms, they listened intently. Change for The Better, they started getting up and talking. WYLAW came on and they all sat down and shut up. Not exactly the order of things, but you get the idea. :shock:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:41 am

Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:

How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?

The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?

Great Post, G~boy!! My sentiments exactly ... :wink:
You know how it is around here, you don't like something the band does, you're bashing the band~primarily AP!!
Bushwa ...AP is a great guy, great voice, perhaps some diction issues for some, but none of that accounts
for my dislike of that CD ...including the god awful retreads!! You made the hammer, nail connection for
me ...no replay value!! If I never heard a single song from that CD ever again, I lose nothing!!
However, it seems as though there are people in the double platinum figures who disagree!! :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:51 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:

How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?

The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?

Great Post, G~boy!! My sentiments exactly ... :wink:
You know how it is around here, you don't like something the band does, you're bashing the band!!
Bushwa ...AP is a great guy, great voice, perhaps some diction issues for some, but none of that accounts
for my dislike of that CD ...including the god awful retreads!! You made the hammer, nail connection for
me ...no replay value!! If I never heard a single song from that CD ever again, I lose nothing!!
However, it seems as though there are people in the double platinum figures who disagree!! :wink:


The quality of this next album should be of paramount importance to Journey. I see it as a make or break it album. The first album with Arnel I can understand. It was a rushed process as the band wanted to get out on tour. Most of us understand why the retreads were made, not that it makes them any better, but they did prove that Arnel can sound like Journey on the old material. Now this album had better fuckin rock! :D
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Postby lights1961 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:23 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:

How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?

The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?

Great Post, G~boy!! My sentiments exactly ... :wink:
You know how it is around here, you don't like something the band does, you're bashing the band!!
Bushwa ...AP is a great guy, great voice, perhaps some diction issues for some, but none of that accounts
for my dislike of that CD ...including the god awful retreads!! You made the hammer, nail connection for
me ...no replay value!! If I never heard a single song from that CD ever again, I lose nothing!!
However, it seems as though there are people in the double platinum figures who disagree!! :wink:


The quality of this next album should be of paramount importance to Journey. I see it as a make or break it album. The first album with Arnel I can understand. It was a rushed process as the band wanted to get out on tour. Most of us understand why the retreads were made, not that it makes them any better, but they did prove that Arnel can sound like Journey on the old material. Now this album had better fuckin rock! :D



AGREE here...

and agree that Arrival is an excellent sounding CD 9 years later.
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:33 am

lights1961 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:

How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?

The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?

Great Post, G~boy!! My sentiments exactly ... :wink:
You know how it is around here, you don't like something the band does, you're bashing the band!!
Bushwa ...AP is a great guy, great voice, perhaps some diction issues for some, but none of that accounts
for my dislike of that CD ...including the god awful retreads!! You made the hammer, nail connection for
me ...no replay value!! If I never heard a single song from that CD ever again, I lose nothing!!
However, it seems as though there are people in the double platinum figures who disagree!! :wink:


The quality of this next album should be of paramount importance to Journey. I see it as a make or break it album. The first album with Arnel I can understand. It was a rushed process as the band wanted to get out on tour. Most of us understand why the retreads were made, not that it makes them any better, but they did prove that Arnel can sound like Journey on the old material. Now this album had better fuckin rock! :D



AGREE here...

and agree that Arrival is an excellent sounding CD 9 years later.


Arrival is in my regular rotation and one of my favorite Journey albums. I've decided I like it better than TBF.
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Postby lights1961 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:52 am

steveo777 wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:

How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?

The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?

Great Post, G~boy!! My sentiments exactly ... :wink:
You know how it is around here, you don't like something the band does, you're bashing the band!!
Bushwa ...AP is a great guy, great voice, perhaps some diction issues for some, but none of that accounts
for my dislike of that CD ...including the god awful retreads!! You made the hammer, nail connection for
me ...no replay value!! If I never heard a single song from that CD ever again, I lose nothing!!
However, it seems as though there are people in the double platinum figures who disagree!! :wink:


The quality of this next album should be of paramount importance to Journey. I see it as a make or break it album. The first album with Arnel I can understand. It was a rushed process as the band wanted to get out on tour. Most of us understand why the retreads were made, not that it makes them any better, but they did prove that Arnel can sound like Journey on the old material. Now this album had better fuckin rock! :D



AGREE here...

and agree that Arrival is an excellent sounding CD 9 years later.


Arrival is in my regular rotation and one of my favorite Journey albums. I've decided I like it better than TBF.


its a great work out CD...
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Postby Jana » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:54 am

arrival is better than trial by fire. I don't know why gb said, as low as the bar was set with Arrival. I think the bar was set high with Arrival.

by the by, the reason I said Neal could help him write and get this album out had nothing to do with Revelation and Arrival and it was b/c back in the day they knocked out albums quickly writing together and Steve is going on his second year on this album with different co-writers and still no concrete plans. Just sayin . . . . . .. . .. :wink:
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Postby Don » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:58 am

Jana wrote:arrival is better than trial by fire. I don't know why gb said, as low as the bar was set with Arrival. I think the bar was set high with Arrival.

by the by, the reason I said Neal could help him write and get this album out had nothing to do with Revelation and Arrival and it was b/c back in the day they knocked out albums quickly writing together and Steve is going on his second year on this album with different co-writers and still no concrete plans. Just sayin . . . . . .. . .. :wink:



As low as the bar was set, in relation to their past successes, ie. Escape & Frontiers. I don't include ROR as it's not really a Journey album to me. TBF is growing on me but it will take some work for me to consider it as something more than ROR II, with the incorporation of Ross and Smith.
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Postby Jana » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:00 am

Gunbot wrote:
Jana wrote:arrival is better than trial by fire. I don't know why gb said, as low as the bar was set with Arrival. I think the bar was set high with Arrival.

by the by, the reason I said Neal could help him write and get this album out had nothing to do with Revelation and Arrival and it was b/c back in the day they knocked out albums quickly writing together and Steve is going on his second year on this album with different co-writers and still no concrete plans. Just sayin . . . . . .. . .. :wink:



As low as the bar was set, in relation to their past successes, ie. Escape & Frontiers. I don't include ROR as it's not really a Journey album to me. TBF is growing on me but it will take some work for me to consider it as something more than ROR II, with the incorporation of Ross and Smith.


Okay. I get that comment now.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:35 am

TBF is great, I love it ...everyone I know :D prefers TBF to Arrival, but we love Arrival!! :wink:

and ROR ...love, love, love it!!!
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Postby portland » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:38 am

Michigan Girl wrote:TBF is great, I love it ...everyone I know :D prefers TBF to Arrival, but we love Arrival!! :wink:

and ROR ...love, love, love it!!!



Agreed^^^I now can say I like Arrival.


ROR and TBF come before Arrival for me any day! 8)
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:39 am

Michigan Girl wrote:TBF is great, I love it ...everyone I know :D prefers TBF to Arrival, but we love Arrival!! :wink:

and ROR ...love, love, love it!!!


You need to get new friends. Arrival ownz TBF! :wink:

I only like two songs on TBF.
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Postby portland » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:40 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:TBF is great, I love it ...everyone I know :D prefers TBF to Arrival, but we love Arrival!! :wink:

and ROR ...love, love, love it!!!


You need to get new friends. Arrival ownz TBF! :wink:



You need to shut up and know that we all have our own opinions! :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:44 am

portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:TBF is great, I love it ...everyone I know :D prefers TBF to Arrival, but we love Arrival!! :wink:

and ROR ...love, love, love it!!!


You need to get new friends. Arrival ownz TBF! :wink:



You need to shut up and know that we all have our own opinions! :wink:


You know what they say about opinions............... :lol:
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:44 am

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Michigan Girl wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, he needs to give Neal a call to help him. That album will be knocked ot in no time. :wink:


No thanks ...we don't need any more Revelation type knock offs!! :wink:


How could something with Perry be a Revelation type knock off? :?


The only place Revelation needs to be knocked of is the counter, straight into the trash can. Just no replay value at all, unfortunately. Arrival is really becoming the gold standard for the band's post Perry work. As low as the bar was set with that album, nothing else Journey has done the last few years really compares artistically. I really hope this new album will be as different as Neal has proclaimed. TDTWT was a great song but one song does not an album make. If money really isn't an issue, go ahead and make something cutting edge for a change.
Van Halen got away with it, and they had all the pressure in the world on them. Granted, not too many bands are going to land a Sammy Hagar type member who isn't afraid of leading. Journey has no expectations at all this late in the game, what's the harm in taking a risk?


I agree that they need to come up with something different and I think they will. But, I think Revelation has some great tunes besides TDTWT, CFTB is one of their best rockers in a long time, I won't count NWA cause I know " Its Just rehashed" or AATY " its a country western song" :lol: But WIN is a superb song, Arnels Vocals on this are classic and rival Perry IMO. And lastly, Neal's playing on this album is actually the best thing about it, better than TBF or Arrival, I listen to it a least once a week just to hear him.
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