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Postby hoagiepete » Sun May 02, 2010 8:15 am

Way to go BP. :roll: The US needs more oil drilling and this kinda fucked things up. Fine the shit out of them, refine technology to prevent this from happening again and let's move forward.

If they can't come up with safer technology, hell, even I am skeptical as to whether they should drill or not.
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Postby Moon Beam » Sun May 02, 2010 8:49 am

Pelicans are affected by this as well. :cry:
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Postby brywool » Sun May 02, 2010 9:02 am

hoagiepete wrote:Way to go BP. :roll: The US needs more oil drilling and this kinda fucked things up. Fine the shit out of them, refine technology to prevent this from happening again and let's move forward.

If they can't come up with safer technology, hell, even I am skeptical as to whether they should drill or not.


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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sun May 02, 2010 5:06 pm

Oil is from the earth, it's been here longer then man has...so it's got to be good.
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Postby Sarah » Sun May 02, 2010 7:01 pm

Jana wrote:UPDATE: At 10:40AM ET on Friday, Sarah Palin made her first comment on the oil spill, posting the following on Twitter: "Having worked/lived thru Exxon oil spill,my family&I understand Gulf residents' fears.Our prayers r w/u.All industry efforts must b employed."

I hate when "professional" people type this way. Not that I liked SP anyway but this lowered my opinion of her a little further
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Postby Babyblue » Mon May 03, 2010 6:43 am

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Jana wrote:UPDATE: At 10:40AM ET on Friday, Sarah Palin made her first comment on the oil spill, posting the following on Twitter: "Having worked/lived thru Exxon oil spill,my family&I understand Gulf residents' fears.Our prayers r w/u.All industry efforts must b employed."

I hate when "professional" people type this way. Not that I liked SP anyway but this lowered my opinion of her a little further



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Postby Blueskies » Tue May 04, 2010 8:20 am

10 Things You Can Do To Help The Gulf Coast Clean The Oil Spill


http://www.usnews.com/money/blogs/fresh ... spill.html




Alarming photos of dead sea turtles washed ashore—as well as satellite images of an ever-spreading oil slick—demonstrate that a serious ordeal is ahead for the Gulf Coast. The April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig caused a spill that has spread more than 130 miles so far. The spill has reached land in Louisiana, and is expected to reach Mississippi, Alabama and Florida. If it continues, it will surpass the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill as the worst in history. Here's how you can help: ( ^ click on the link provided above )
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue May 04, 2010 8:29 am

treetopovskaya wrote:http://www.caringconsumer.com/

http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materia ... donate.htm


You tree hugger! :P :wink:
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue May 04, 2010 8:48 am

hoagiepete wrote:Way to go BP. :roll: The US needs more oil drilling and this kinda fucked things up. Fine the shit out of them, refine technology to prevent this from happening again and let's move forward.

If they can't come up with safer technology, hell, even I am skeptical as to whether they should drill or not.


Remember BP owned the oil, but contracted the rig. TransOcean owned/operated the rig, but BP (Beyond Petroleum) gets the blame and the responsibility since they owned the crude. Besides who cares about TransOcean? I firmly believe they will come up with better technology/monitoring and drilling will continue, we won't be able to afford not to in the immediate future.

Oil companies are probably the companies who have already spent the most money on developing alternative energy. These companies have been around a long time and have the bucks, technology and knowhow to be innovative enough to create new alternatives.

This whole thing makes me really sad as a former BP employee. Please don't forget that 11 people died in that explosion. Somehow they seem to get forgotten. :cry:
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue May 04, 2010 9:18 am

RocknRoll wrote:
hoagiepete wrote:Way to go BP. :roll: The US needs more oil drilling and this kinda fucked things up. Fine the shit out of them, refine technology to prevent this from happening again and let's move forward.

If they can't come up with safer technology, hell, even I am skeptical as to whether they should drill or not.


Remember BP owned the oil, but contracted the rig. TransOcean owned/operated the rig, but BP (Beyond Petroleum) gets the blame and the responsibility since they owned the crude. Besides who cares about TransOcean? I firmly believe they will come up with better technology/monitoring and drilling will continue, we won't be able to afford not to in the immediate future.

Oil companies are the probably the companies who have already spent the most money on developing alternative energy. These companies have been around a long time and have the bucks, technology and knowhow to be innovative enough to create new alternatives.

This whole thing makes me really sad as a former BP employee. Please don't forget that 11 people died in that explosion. Somehow they seem to get forgotten.




Great post, and I agree with you. As bad as this whole thing sucks... If something is made by human hands, it can and WILL fail eventually. That doesn't mean you give up and quit trying! Accidents happen. If we never used nuclear power plants because of the risk, where would we be today? Hopefully they'll get this thing closed off ASAP, and get this mess cleaned up. I really hate to think about all of the fish and animals dead or dying, but all we can do is do our part to help the organizations that help recover wildlife through these events.

I'm all for drilling, because (for now), we're dependent on it. If we don't drill here, we'll be buying from somewhere else. All that's going to do is line the pockets of countries with ties to terrorists, and the fish and wildlife there will be at even more risk! It'll take a while, but this area of the ocean will recover.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue May 04, 2010 9:23 am

RocknRoll wrote:This whole thing makes me really sad as a former BP employee. Please don't forget that 11 people died in that explosion. Somehow they seem to get forgotten. :cry:


THis whole thing is a terrible tragedy on so many levels but it is no excuse to stop drilling.

But really, do you wanna know the sick thing? I haven't been able to really read an article on this since I've been up to my eyes in shit since this happened... so I've basically heard the radio reports on my drives in and out of work listening to the news. Wanna know the part of the story I heard stressed over and over? How bad it was gonna be for the animals on one hand, and that the first bird had been officially cleaned up with Dawn dishwasher detergent. Not once did they mention that 11 people died, and this is the first I've heard of it. Wow. Just a sad commentary on the state of the media and how people's agendas can twist or omit things to an absolutely absurd degree. Now, maybe other news stations reported that, but I really kinda doubt it... hell, the local channel I listen to for my news updates is run by Clear Channel and syndicates all the righty talk shows. Our priorities are so fucked up in this country.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue May 04, 2010 10:33 am

One of the people I met at MR Fest II lives on the beach and was really concerned about the long term effects of the spill. Really unfortunate for anyone that may get it in their own back yard.
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue May 04, 2010 11:17 am

Rip Rokken wrote:One of the people I met at MR Fest II lives on the beach and was really concerned about the long term effects of the spill. Really unfortunate for anyone that may get it in their own back yard.


Could be absolutely devastating this year, but next year probably not so bad. Down the road who knows? Nature does have a way of adjusting providing they get this stopped. Apparently they are now pursuing some Apollo 13ish type innovations (News words not mine) to temporarily contain it. Hopefully they succeed.

It's definitely worse when it's closer to home. Unfortunately for those who lost loved ones, they don't recover.
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Postby stevew2 » Tue May 04, 2010 1:30 pm

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Oil is from the earth, it's been here longer then man has...so it's got to be good.
then go drink a bottle of 20w 50 , you retard
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue May 04, 2010 1:33 pm

stevew2 wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Oil is from the earth, it's been here longer then man has...so it's got to be good.
then go drink a bottle of 20w 50 , you retard


Would that be a slight upgrade over the wine you usually drink? :lol:
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Postby stevew2 » Tue May 04, 2010 1:47 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Oil is from the earth, it's been here longer then man has...so it's got to be good.
then go drink a bottle of 20w 50 , you retard


Would that be a slight upgrade over the wine you usually drink? :lol:
I drink good wine from california, not like pargay from france
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Postby San Diego Gary » Tue May 04, 2010 1:53 pm

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Lula wrote:we haven't even begun to see the disastrous effects of this oil spill. such a horrific accident on so many levels. there better be some serious consequences for bp and some reqirements to include that 1/2 million dollar device to shut production in case of disaster on all rigs.


Exactly! No US off shore rigs have a remote shut off switch and have not been required to have them! :x But aside from that, IMO the oil rigs shouldn't be out in the ocean in the first place! Being dependent on oil has caused death, war and destruction! We don't need to use oil! There are far less destructive, cleaner and smarter ways to go!


Before you fuckin Cons say 'no way,' look no further than Brazil. Completely self sufficient without the use of oil. But I know, we're just a bunch of tree huggers, right? :roll:


What? From the New York Times:

Rio de Janeiro Is in Fight Over Brazil’s Oil RichesBy ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: March 17, 2010


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/world ... razil.html
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue May 04, 2010 2:12 pm

San Diego Gary wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Lula wrote:we haven't even begun to see the disastrous effects of this oil spill. such a horrific accident on so many levels. there better be some serious consequences for bp and some reqirements to include that 1/2 million dollar device to shut production in case of disaster on all rigs.


Exactly! No US off shore rigs have a remote shut off switch and have not been required to have them! :x But aside from that, IMO the oil rigs shouldn't be out in the ocean in the first place! Being dependent on oil has caused death, war and destruction! We don't need to use oil! There are far less destructive, cleaner and smarter ways to go!


Before you fuckin Cons say 'no way,' look no further than Brazil. Completely self sufficient without the use of oil. But I know, we're just a bunch of tree huggers, right? :roll:


What? From the New York Times:

Rio de Janeiro Is in Fight Over Brazil’s Oil RichesBy ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: March 17, 2010


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/world ... razil.html


Currently 3rd largest integrated oil company in the world, bigger than BP by Market Cap

Petroleo Brasileiro SA (ADR) aka Petrobas PBR

Although I agree Brazil has made a fortune making fuel from food, ethanol based on sugar cane. I guess that works??? Who needs rain forests anyway?

I also heard they are reducing the amount of required ethanol for vehicles.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue May 04, 2010 2:38 pm

RocknRoll wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Lula wrote:we haven't even begun to see the disastrous effects of this oil spill. such a horrific accident on so many levels. there better be some serious consequences for bp and some reqirements to include that 1/2 million dollar device to shut production in case of disaster on all rigs.


Exactly! No US off shore rigs have a remote shut off switch and have not been required to have them! :x But aside from that, IMO the oil rigs shouldn't be out in the ocean in the first place! Being dependent on oil has caused death, war and destruction! We don't need to use oil! There are far less destructive, cleaner and smarter ways to go!


Before you fuckin Cons say 'no way,' look no further than Brazil. Completely self sufficient without the use of oil. But I know, we're just a bunch of tree huggers, right? :roll:


What? From the New York Times:

Rio de Janeiro Is in Fight Over Brazil’s Oil RichesBy ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: March 17, 2010


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/world ... razil.html


Currently 3rd largest integrated oil company in the world.

Petroleo Brasileiro SA (ADR) aka Petrobas PBR

Although I agree Brazil has made a fortune making fuel from food, ethanol based on sugar cane. I guess that works??? Who needs rain forests anyway?


we're doing it too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fu ... ted_States

it takes A LOT of corn to make fuel. i remember awhile back we had a shortage & people were going a little nutty... prices went up too.

(ever use utensils made from corn? they're fine for eating cold food... but hot food... not so much! HAHA!)

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Postby RocknRoll » Tue May 04, 2010 3:01 pm

RocknRoll wrote:
hoagiepete wrote:Way to go BP. :roll: The US needs more oil drilling and this kinda fucked things up. Fine the shit out of them, refine technology to prevent this from happening again and let's move forward.

If they can't come up with safer technology, hell, even I am skeptical as to whether they should drill or not.


Remember BP owned the oil, but contracted the rig. TransOcean owned/operated the rig, but BP (Beyond Petroleum) gets the blame and the responsibility since they owned the crude. Besides who cares about TransOcean? I firmly believe they will come up with better technology/monitoring and drilling will continue, we won't be able to afford not to in the immediate future.

Oil companies are probably the companies who have already spent the most money on developing alternative energy. These companies have been around a long time and have the bucks, technology and knowhow to be innovative enough to create new alternatives.

This whole thing makes me really sad as a former BP employee. Please don't forget that 11 people died in that explosion. Somehow they seem to get forgotten. :cry:


Just one more thought. Big Oil explores alternatives without mega-billions in taxpayer funded goverment grants. Instead they provide grants to high tech schools to explore the possibilities and come up with solutions. What an interesting idea?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Tue May 04, 2010 3:04 pm

going a little nutty = freaking the frak out
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue May 04, 2010 3:36 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:going a little nutty = freaking the frak out


Ya know what. Hopefully, what will happen is nature cooperates and creativity surfaces, apparently happening right now. We get this thing stopped, cleaned up and new ideas will come out on how we can drill and recover oil from the gulf safer and more efficiently. Now all we have to do is hope Washington doesn't continue to go nuts. SIGH!! Probably not going to happen since Congress and the administration obviously know more about it and how to do it better. :?
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Postby Sarah » Tue May 04, 2010 6:59 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:This whole thing makes me really sad as a former BP employee. Please don't forget that 11 people died in that explosion. Somehow they seem to get forgotten. :cry:


THis whole thing is a terrible tragedy on so many levels but it is no excuse to stop drilling.

But really, do you wanna know the sick thing? I haven't been able to really read an article on this since I've been up to my eyes in shit since this happened... so I've basically heard the radio reports on my drives in and out of work listening to the news. Wanna know the part of the story I heard stressed over and over? How bad it was gonna be for the animals on one hand, and that the first bird had been officially cleaned up with Dawn dishwasher detergent. Not once did they mention that 11 people died, and this is the first I've heard of it. Wow. Just a sad commentary on the state of the media and how people's agendas can twist or omit things to an absolutely absurd degree. Now, maybe other news stations reported that, but I really kinda doubt it... hell, the local channel I listen to for my news updates is run by Clear Channel and syndicates all the righty talk shows. Our priorities are so fucked up in this country.

The major impact on the environment caused by this spill kinda IS more of a priority. Not to say they shouldn't mention the human casualties by any means, but the thousands (millions?) of wildlife that will die, screwing up the food chain etc, and the water contamination is the bigger story in the long run.
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Postby SteveForever » Wed May 05, 2010 1:50 pm

I"m so scared....I feel panic over this :?
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Postby Blueskies » Thu May 06, 2010 1:29 pm

Check out this interactive map. Click on each title on the right.

http://www.sierraclub.org/oilspill/map/#currents







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Postby Deb » Mon May 10, 2010 12:36 pm

RocknRoll wrote:
hoagiepete wrote:Way to go BP. :roll: The US needs more oil drilling and this kinda fucked things up. Fine the shit out of them, refine technology to prevent this from happening again and let's move forward.

If they can't come up with safer technology, hell, even I am skeptical as to whether they should drill or not.


Remember BP owned the oil, but contracted the rig. TransOcean owned/operated the rig, but BP (Beyond Petroleum) gets the blame and the responsibility since they owned the crude. Besides who cares about TransOcean? I firmly believe they will come up with better technology/monitoring and drilling will continue, we won't be able to afford not to in the immediate future.

Oil companies are probably the companies who have already spent the most money on developing alternative energy. These companies have been around a long time and have the bucks, technology and knowhow to be innovative enough to create new alternatives.

This whole thing makes me really sad as a former BP employee. Please don't forget that 11 people died in that explosion. Somehow they seem to get forgotten. :cry:


Great post Val, I used to work for BP Canada. I work for another Oil and Gas company now and your statement above is very true.
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