GREEN LANTERN

[YoungJRNY]

I was never a comic book fan, but I did always love superheros, mostly because of the cartoons.

It's been fun to watch these comic book/superhero movies the last 8~10 years, but its very obvious that they are now churning them out mindlessly (Exhibit A: The Fantastic Four movies... god awful). They need to take their time with tehse and develop meaningful plot lines and good themes.

I saw Inception last night and I almost had a boner thinking about what Christopher Nolan has up his sleeve for the third installment in his Batman series....

Christopher Nolan is also overseeing the production of the new Superman reboot for 2012. After the abortion that was Superman Returns and with the success of the reboot of the Batman series, I'm sure Nolan can give that same effect to a Superman movie in need of a remake and making the character relevant and worth giving a shit about for the bigscreen in this generation.

[Don]

I used to enjoy comic books as a child but when there is no internet or Cable TV, what else would you do on a rainy day?

My favorites were Blackhawk, Sgt.Rock and Captain America. Was never really into the magic powers used by the other guys.

[Abitaman]

In the comics, isn't GL now Black? I saw that somewhere and was thinking "Hmm, when did THAT happen?

Happened back in the 80's if I remember right. GL (Hall) was kicked off Earth for a year and Jon took his place as Earth's green lantern.

[Abitaman]

and ya need more than one guy... why?

See above. Plus each sector than a GL patroled, they had one back up for that sector. When the Gaurdians Of The Universe (GOU) disbanded, they kind of went wherever, and earth ended up with several, Hall, Jon, Guy and Kyle (all earthlings) and a few aliens. Later when the GOU got back together, they brought the corps back too.

[Abitaman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Lantern


More info, seems I remember some of it so so, so..............

[Abitaman]

In the comics, isn't GL now Black? I saw that somewhere and was thinking "Hmm, when did THAT happen?

In the early 1970s, John Stewart, an African American unemployed architect, was selected by the Guardians to replace a comatose Guy Gardner as the backup Green Lantern for Jordan. When Jordan resigned from the Corps for an extended period of time, Stewart served as the regular Lantern for that period. Since then, Stewart was in and out of action due to various circumstances, even becoming the first mortal Guardian of the Universe. He also joined and led the Darkstars when the Green Lantern Corps were destroyed by Parallax. After that, he took over being Green Lantern for Kyle Rayner when he left Earth, also taking his place in the JLA. While he was a member in Justice League America he became a close friend of Flash (Wally West), and fell in love with Hawkgirl (Shiera Hall). Now he has begun serving with Jordan as one of his sector's two designated regular-duty Lanterns, designated as Green Lantern 2814.2.

While initially unknown to non-comics readers, his profile has been raised significantly since he was featured as one of the lead characters on the television cartoon Justice League from 2001 until 2004. He continued to appear on the show's 2004-2006 sequel, Justice League Unlimited. As of 2007, John Stewart is prominently featured in DC's monthly comic books Justice League of America and Green Lantern.

I think he isn't the current GL but just one of the backup guys.

Comic timelines are super confusing...

Man I forgot all about tHal turning evil, dying, coming back as another hero, then a GL again..............................................

Haha oh yea. Following a comic continuity is like trying to follow Chinese one way streets if you don't really pay attention to every single title known to existence. Comics can change within one scene and completley condrict itself in another and if you miss one single issue of one title, then you will literally miss out on an entire arc and new retconn of what's going on in the comic world. Sometimes, I'd rather take up forensic science than to figure out comic books given all the retellings of origins as well as the uncontrollably new galaxies and characters coming in from one parallel universe to the other, it's just one big, big clusterfuck to understand. Some don't understand it at all.

Hal Jordan is currently thee Green Lantern and will always be refereed to as the Lantern post Crisis. I never read the event, but long and way, way, way confusing story short, Jordan was takin' over by a parasitic alien called Parallax, who was imprisoned and is made of yellow energy, something the Green Lantern rings are vulnerable to.

Parallax was signaled through one of Jordans's and the Lanterns biggest foes, Sinestro. Parallax influenced Jordan and broke him down over time after making Jordan experience self doubt and Jordan finally flipped and went on an uncontrollable murdering spree when his home ground Coast City was destroyed. Out of grief, he snapped. With Parallax now apart of Jordan, Hal went vicious, trying to take out OA (center of our known universe) and murdered members of the Guardians of the Universe. Being an uncontrollable villain who can't be stopped and is as powerful as it gets, Hal continues on his rampage.

The positive aspect of Jordan's personality would resurface occasionally, eventually leading the infected Jordan to use Parallax's powers to reignite the Sun and save the day. After Jordan's sacrifice, his remains and soul was then passed over to the being of the Spectre, who has a deciding factor of death in the DC Universe and acts as a godlike figure that serves under God's message of a place for death. Once Hal's spirit consumed the troubled spirit of the Spectre and became its host, the new Green Lantern chosen was Kyle Rayner, who didn't have the intangibles as Jordan did, but was popular within Lantern fans.

Jordan is eventually resurrected through the Spectre and returns as Hal Jordan and thee Green Lantern. The latest events in the Green Lantern titles saw the rise of the Black Lanterns, entitled Blackest Night, who were dead DC hero's who were brought from the dead by a known entity controlling the death of Bruce Wayne & were troubled souls and unsettled during their time of death and was brought back in a zombie like form controlled by a Black Lantern ring who brought out the upmost evil side of heroes past (Aquaman, Superman of Earth Two, Elongated Man, Hawkman, Firestorm etc.) who gained power by ripping out the hearts of the living and earning each power set of emotion of the time of what that being withheld (fear, heart, passion, love, etc.)


Now with the Blackest Night defeated for now, the ongoing new arc for Green Lantern is called "Brightest Day" in aftermath of Blackest Night.

Crazy.

[Abitaman]

I haven't really read any since Katrina. Had a collection from 75 to 2005
on all the JLA, Supes, Bats and Wonder Woman tiltes.
Plus long runs on Teen Tatins, JSA, Green Lantern, and a few other DC titles

[YoungJRNY]

I haven't really read any since Katrina. Had a collection from 75 to 2005
on all the JLA, Supes, Bats and Wonder Woman tiltes.
Plus long runs on Teen Tatins, JSA, Green Lantern, and a few other DC titles

So you stopped reading before Infinite Crisis? Most of the characters, esp the big 3 (Supes, Bats and Wonder Women) all had character re-boots and a fresh new direction after Infinite Crisis back in 2005. The multiverse was returned and the known 52 galaxies remained, eventually forming into a "New Earth" as we have today. Superman, Batman and Wonder Women both took a year off of heroic duties to find themselves and during the events of Infinite Crisis, Superman didn't have his powers for the whole year and focuses on his journalist work as Clark Kent, as well as his marriage to Lois Lane.

Recently, Bruce Wayne "died" in Final Crisis and is now venturing through the existence of time from the worlds timeline at "0" and he must solve the riddle of all the time period of life on Earth to return back to life in today's timeline of existence. It's one of DC's big events. Right now, Dick Grayson (Robin) is the new Batman until Bruce is set to return.

Right now, Wonder Women's NEWEST direction has her with a whole different orgin of the character and even a changed costume.




The highly anticipated new Superman run is actually making press and T.V time around the country as he is literally (WALKING, yes walking) across America to bring back the original roots of his character and that is to re-kindle his connection to humanity and to all the hard working people of the world and trying to rebuild trust within him and the human kind.

It is VERY intriguing plot line. While Superman was away on another planet fighting for the safety of other worlds and saving the planet, he comes back to hoopla and media in his face who asks if he's lost touch with the people since he had to "choose sides" in the big event. One women runs up to Superman crying and slaps him in the face and tells him while he was gone, her husband died of a sickness and he wasn't even present on Earth where he could have done something about it. This gets to Superman and realizes how he's lost touch with what it's supposed to be about and is now walking America to re-kindle the spark of trust and worthiness to walk amongst us.



What sucks is that comic prices went from $1.00 from the 90's and now run at an EXPENSIVE $3.00 a comic, most $4.00-$5.00! Being a collector, the money I put back for silly things like comics makes me only follow Superman and his titles but I read up mostly online and read up on message boards to keep in touch with all of DC with the occasional TPB, which is a chore to consume haha.

[Rip Rokken]

I read Crisis on Infinite Earths in a single-bound book, but I think all the multi-comic spanning looooong story arcs were nothing but ways of getting people to buy more titles, and lots of them, especially at higher prices. That alone made me lose interest in those types of stories, though I have been curious about Marvel's Civil War. I'll probably never read it though.

The deal with Superman getting slapped in the face -- I'm sorry, but it wouldn't be my job to make sure no bad things ever happened to anyone, so what gives that lady the right? You've probably seen (or have) the giant "Peace on Earth" (Superman title with Alex Ross cover art). He goes a bit into how he can't save all the world's problems.

[verslibre]

Right now, Wonder Women's NEWEST direction has her with a whole different orgin of the character and even a changed costume.

The costume design is okay, but I've always hated the way Jim Lee draws women. He couldn't draw a female without sharp angles and an "anime" face if somebody held a sawed-off 12-gauge to his head.

[Abitaman]

I caught the new crisis in trade back. It was good, and I was more than glad to see the "other" universes come back. Always liked the earth 1&2 etc...

I had heard Dick was now Batman, and just heard about the new twist on Wonder Woman last week. I don't mind the costume change, but am deadset against the change away from the molded from clay and brought to life by the greek gods. Prez's run in the 80's and Bryne's run in the 90's were how Wonder Woman was meant to be.

[YoungJRNY]

I read Crisis on Infinite Earths in a single-bound book, but I think all the multi-comic spanning looooong story arcs were nothing but ways of getting people to buy more titles, and lots of them, especially at higher prices. That alone made me lose interest in those types of stories, though I have been curious about Marvel's Civil War. I'll probably never read it though.

The deal with Superman getting slapped in the face -- I'm sorry, but it wouldn't be my job to make sure no bad things ever happened to anyone, so what gives that lady the right? You've probably seen (or have) the giant "Peace on Earth" (Superman title with Alex Ross cover art). He goes a bit into how he can't save all the world's problems.

Peace on Earth is one of my favorite books done. It also helps that Alex Ross is a god on the quality and realism of detail he puts into his work. Just amazing. If the Superman re-boot was going to be about anything, Peace on Earth would be a good start (rumors of the new Superman re-boot are surfacing and it sounds to be pretty awesome.)

There was also a single issue back in I believe '93 or '94 called Metropolis Mailbag to where every Christmas Superman answers his fan mail and trys to help out as many people as possible. In the story, he helped sisters and prisoners during WWII reunite at old age and a couple things here and there.

One child wrote in about his father dying of cancer and asked Superman if he could use his powers to save his brain tumor. Superman flew to the hospital to tell him he wouldn't be able to save his dad. When he got there, the man passed away and the little kid blamed Superman for it. Superman explained that even though there are many things he can do to save people, there are simply things he cannot do and dealing with the human body and something like cancer is one of them and they must forgive him. One of my fav single issues.

JMS's new run on Superman certainly had that feel, but I don't think it was necc. the slap or the reasoning behind the man dying, but that he wasn't even present or even around to just do the least he could do and atleast listen.

[YoungJRNY]

I caught the new crisis in trade back. It was good, and I was more than glad to see the "other" universes come back. Always liked the earth 1&2 etc...

I had heard Dick was now Batman, and just heard about the new twist on Wonder Woman last week. I don't mind the costume change, but am deadset against the change away from the molded from clay and brought to life by the greek gods. Prez's run in the 80's and Bryne's run in the 90's were how Wonder Woman was meant to be.

Yeah, a lot of fans are def carrying a mixed bag about it. Of course, every writer wants to put their on spin on the character and call their run their own and at the same time, taking a 70 year old character and trying to put that intake on freshness.

I don't mind the new costume since it's more of a style to go with her more hard and more relentless take on the character given her backstory. If Superman's costume as ever to change, I'd be pissed beyond belief. Superman is a world icon and he is recognized as a house hold name and the image is like the holy grail. That's why elseworld tales are told but I like the new WW, but at the same time, think it'll only be temporary.

[Rip Rokken]

One child wrote in about his father dying of cancer and asked Superman if he could use his powers to save his brain tumor. Superman flew to the hospital to tell him he wouldn't be able to save his dad. When he got there, the man passed away and the little kid blamed Superman for it. Superman explained that even though there are many things he can do to save people, there are simply things he cannot do and dealing with the human body and something like cancer is one of them and they must forgive him. One of my fav single issues.

JMS's new run on Superman certainly had that feel, but I don't think it was necc. the slap or the reasoning behind the man dying, but that he wasn't even present or even around to just do the least he could do and atleast listen.

They shouldn't expect Supes to be the world's grief counselor, either. Talk about a dependency class. I bet they voted for Obama.

I had a very small digest sized Superman story once where Luthor found a cure for cancer from prison. Superman went to bat for him and got him pardoned, then Lex set a trap for him and killed him with concentrated Kryptonite rays. It was a "what if" type of story, and a good argument for the inability of prison to rehabilitate hardcore sociopathic criminals.

[Abitaman]

I caught the new crisis in trade back. It was good, and I was more than glad to see the "other" universes come back. Always liked the earth 1&2 etc...

I had heard Dick was now Batman, and just heard about the new twist on Wonder Woman last week. I don't mind the costume change, but am deadset against the change away from the molded from clay and brought to life by the greek gods. Prez's run in the 80's and Bryne's run in the 90's were how Wonder Woman was meant to be.

Yeah, a lot of fans are def carrying a mixed bag about it. Of course, every writer wants to put their on spin on the character and call their run their own and at the same time, taking a 70 year old character and trying to put that intake on freshness.

I don't mind the new costume since it's more of a style to go with her more hard and more relentless take on the character given her backstory. If Superman's costume as ever to change, I'd be pissed beyond belief. Superman is a world icon and he is recognized as a house hold name and the image is like the holy grail. That's why elseworld tales are told but I like the new WW, but at the same time, think it'll only be temporary.

In the mid or late 90's they changed Supes powers and costume. IT WAS LAME!!!!!!

[YoungJRNY]

I caught the new crisis in trade back. It was good, and I was more than glad to see the "other" universes come back. Always liked the earth 1&2 etc...

I had heard Dick was now Batman, and just heard about the new twist on Wonder Woman last week. I don't mind the costume change, but am deadset against the change away from the molded from clay and brought to life by the greek gods. Prez's run in the 80's and Bryne's run in the 90's were how Wonder Woman was meant to be.

Yeah, a lot of fans are def carrying a mixed bag about it. Of course, every writer wants to put their on spin on the character and call their run their own and at the same time, taking a 70 year old character and trying to put that intake on freshness.

I don't mind the new costume since it's more of a style to go with her more hard and more relentless take on the character given her backstory. If Superman's costume as ever to change, I'd be pissed beyond belief. Superman is a world icon and he is recognized as a house hold name and the image is like the holy grail. That's why elseworld tales are told but I like the new WW, but at the same time, think it'll only be temporary.

In the mid or late 90's they changed Supes powers and costume. IT WAS LAME!!!!!!

Yeah, an energy-based Superman Red/Blue which his suite was provided by Lex Corp givin the mechanism of energy to give Superman his powers as well as added on ones. I believe the sun was blocked out or the sun was draining in power and Superman was deteriorating with it since he's a being who benefits from Earth's yellow sun. He then separated into two entities, Superman Red and Superman Blue, blue being the more mild mannored type Supes and Red being more rebelious. In the end of the story, both of them collided with each other and the original Superman returned to form, which led into the story "Superman Forever."

I only have one issue of that run since I didn't really enjoy the red & blue era but would snag it if it ever comes out on trade one day but I doubt it.

[Rip Rokken]

Just took a picture of what I'm eating right now -- Superman ice cream, the greatest stuff on this planet.

[YoungJRNY]

Just took a picture of what I'm eating right now -- Superman ice cream, the greatest stuff on this planet.

RIP, just when I thought you couldn't get any more cooler than you are, you surprise me. While I was in Florida, we all went out to get ice cream and had a big ass Superman ice cream waffle cone. It was delish.

[Rip Rokken]

RIP, just when I thought you couldn't get any more cooler than you are, you surprise me. While I was in Florida, we all went out to get ice cream and had a big ass Superman ice cream waffle cone. It was delish.

I need to try it in a waffle cone! I'd never heard of it before until I ran across it a few weeks ago, and even the store owner said he'd been "scared to try it". Well, obviously I went first and was pleasantly surprised. And within minutes I'd Googled it to find it's identified with Michigan (it's origin may be a place called Stroh's). I'm addicted to the stuff now.

[Rip Rokken]

Yeah, an energy-based Superman Red/Blue which his suite was provided by Lex Corp givin the mechanism of energy to give Superman his powers as well as added on ones. I believe the sun was blocked out or the sun was draining in power and Superman was deteriorating with it since he's a being who benefits from Earth's yellow sun. He then separated into two entities, Superman Red and Superman Blue, blue being the more mild mannored type Supes and Red being more rebelious. In the end of the story, both of them collided with each other and the original Superman returned to form, which led into the story "Superman Forever."

I only have one issue of that run since I didn't really enjoy the red & blue era but would snag it if it ever comes out on trade one day but I doubt it.

Dude! I wondered where those suits came from! I own both in Second Life, where I have a wide variety of Superman costumes ranging all the way back to the classic one from Action Comic #1, the movie suits, several misc versions, and one of my favorites -- the Kingdom Come suit. I love to mix and match too, LOL. Haven't been in there in forever, but my favorite thing to do is dress and Supes and go fight crime (as I see it anyway). I've been told I'm a "griefer" but usually I just make people laugh. This is me with some of my pals:



This is where I live...


An adventure in Chile...


Dang, it's been probably a year... I need to go back and stir up some trouble.

[YoungJRNY]

Yeah, an energy-based Superman Red/Blue which his suite was provided by Lex Corp givin the mechanism of energy to give Superman his powers as well as added on ones. I believe the sun was blocked out or the sun was draining in power and Superman was deteriorating with it since he's a being who benefits from Earth's yellow sun. He then separated into two entities, Superman Red and Superman Blue, blue being the more mild mannored type Supes and Red being more rebelious. In the end of the story, both of them collided with each other and the original Superman returned to form, which led into the story "Superman Forever."

I only have one issue of that run since I didn't really enjoy the red & blue era but would snag it if it ever comes out on trade one day but I doubt it.

Dude! I wondered where those suits came from! I own both in Second Life, where I have a wide variety of Superman costumes ranging all the way back to the classic one from Action Comic #1, the movie suits, several misc versions, and one of my favorites -- the Kingdom Come suit. I love to mix and match too..

I love the Kingdom Come Superman. Kingdom Come was my first comic when I started collecting again. Pays homage to what Superman was all about back in the day and had the strength and attitude he had in the Silver Age and is way more powerful than the New Earth Superman. I love the "S" emblem as well for KC. I always liked the black that takes over the yellow when he is grieving. I'm going to have to go back and read that one again, I only read my stuff once so I'm due to re-read some good stories.

[Rip Rokken]

I love the Kingdom Come Superman. Kingdom Come was my first comic when I started collecting again. Pays homage to what Superman was all about back in the day and had the strength and attitude he had in the Silver Age and is way more powerful than the New Earth Superman. I love the "S" emblem as well for KC. I always liked the black that takes over the yellow when he is grieving. I'm going to have to go back and read that one again, I only read my stuff once so I'm due to re-read some good stories.

I didn't know about the color change when he was grieving. Was it a symbolic or metaphorical thing, or did his costume changes just kinda go with the mood in the story? I kinda took the Kingdom Come logo look to be a throwback to the old Max Fleischer cartoon logo:

[Rip Rokken]

I used to have this one:



Every person in that crowd was a real celebrity, and there was a guide on the inside to who was who.

And check this out. About a week ago I found an ollllllllllllllllllllllld keepsake box my mom gave me a few years back, and I've never looked in it until last weekend. I apparently used to draw a lot of Superman cartoons, and even made my own silly little comic book. Barely above stick figure quality, LOL. I need to take some photos of it and upload them.

[YoungJRNY]

I love the Kingdom Come Superman. Kingdom Come was my first comic when I started collecting again. Pays homage to what Superman was all about back in the day and had the strength and attitude he had in the Silver Age and is way more powerful than the New Earth Superman. I love the "S" emblem as well for KC. I always liked the black that takes over the yellow when he is grieving. I'm going to have to go back and read that one again, I only read my stuff once so I'm due to re-read some good stories.

I didn't know about the color change when he was grieving. Was it a symbolic or metaphorical thing, or did his costume changes just kinda go with the mood in the story? I kinda took the Kingdom Come logo look to be a throwback to the old Max Fleischer cartoon logo:

Most of the time when the yellow is black, that symbolism grief and honoring. In Kingdom Come, The Joker raided the Daily Planet and killed most of the Planet with his laughing gas. Lois had a mask and survived it and tried to defend herself against the Joker but the Joker busted her skull with one of those snow-globes. When Superman got there, Lois was still alive but then died shortly after. After that, for decades Clark then gave up the Superman gig and spent his time at the Fortress as well as the farm until Wonder Women coaxed Superman back when a new line of Super heros were destroying things.

Ross said in an interview he made the black in Supe's symbol to honor Lois's death, but don't get me started on the Fleischer Films, that's what started it all for me when I was a kid. Those tapes are worn out to the bone. One of my favorite ones is when Superman was fighting those mechanical robots and was fighting that mega-beam and punching it. CLASSIC. I'm actually adding more Superman symbols to my tattoo and the Fleshier logo is one of them as well as Action #1 and Superman #1 in 1938.


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[Rip Rokken]

Most of the time when the yellow is black, that symbolism grief and honoring. In Kingdom Come, The Joker raided the Daily Planet and killed most of the Planet with his laughing gas. Lois had a mask and survived it and tried to defend herself against the Joker but the Joker busted her skull with one of those snow-globes. When Superman got there, Lois was still alive but then died shortly after. After that, for decades Clark then gave up the Superman gig and spent his time at the Fortress as well as the farm until Wonder Women coaxed Superman back when a new line of Super heros were destroying things.

Ross said in an interview he made the black in Supe's symbol to honor Lois's death.

I know in one of the comics (maybe Kingdom Come) Superman screws the hell out of Wonder Woman in mid-air.



I found a link to that old digest-sized story I mentioned -- it was actually called "The Death of Superman" (this was wayyyy before the one with Doomsday). Check it out if you're not familiar:

http://superman.nu/a/Encyclopaedia/entr ... ntry=death

[YoungJRNY]

I used to have this one:



Every person in that crowd was a real celebrity, and there was a guide on the inside to who was who.

And check this out. About a week ago I found an ollllllllllllllllllllllld keepsake box my mom gave me a few years back, and I've never looked in it until last weekend. I apparently used to draw a lot of Superman cartoons, and even made my own silly little comic book. Barely above stick figure quality, LOL. I need to take some photos of it and upload them.

That's priceless man. Good stuff. post some pics of that for SURE if you can.

I guess they are re-releasing that Superman VS Ali comic.. http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=15005

[Rip Rokken]

don't get me started on the Fleischer Films, that's what started it all for me when I was a kid. Those tapes are worn out to the bone. One of my favorite ones is when Superman was fighting those mechanical robots and was fighting that mega-beam and punching it. CLASSIC. I'm actually adding more Superman symbols to my tattoo and the Fleshier logo is one of them as well as Action #1 and Superman #1 in 1938.[/img]
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I think I started with some comic books, then of course watched the old George Reeves show. It went from there. Not sure if I ever saw the Fleischer cartoons until I was an adult, and of course you can get them in several different dirt cheap DVD packs these days. I think they were in the public domain by that time, just like the original Lone Ranger episodes, so everyone was putting them out. I really liked them, and he was much more human. I remember one scene where he's driving a car, then when he ditches it he just kinda jumps out and rolls like a person at one point instead of flying out. Plus they weren't afraid to be politically incorrect, LOL. I remember another episode with him going to fight the "Japs" in one. That was back when he was strictly an American hero, not the world's hero.

[YoungJRNY]

don't get me started on the Fleischer Films, that's what started it all for me when I was a kid. Those tapes are worn out to the bone. One of my favorite ones is when Superman was fighting those mechanical robots and was fighting that mega-beam and punching it. CLASSIC. I'm actually adding more Superman symbols to my tattoo and the Fleshier logo is one of them as well as Action #1 and Superman #1 in 1938.[/img]
The best

I think I started with some comic books, then of course watched the old George Reeves show. It went from there. Not sure if I ever saw the Fleischer cartoons until I was an adult, and of course you can get them in several different dirt cheap DVD packs these days. I think they were in the public domain by that time, just like the original Lone Ranger episodes, so everyone was putting them out. I really liked them, and he was much more human. I remember one scene where he's driving a car, then when he ditches it he just kinda jumps out and rolls like a person at one point instead of flying out. Plus they weren't afraid to be politically incorrect, LOL. I remember another episode with him going to fight the "Japs" in one. That was back when he was strictly an American hero, not the world's hero.

Def, I loved the origin of what Siegel and Shuster intended Superman to be and that's put gang-bangers and street thugs in their place and Superman was NOT afraid to fuck some shit up then. Of course he took oath now and will NOT kill and holds back in many fights given his power level but the Golden Age Superman where he "leaped tall buildings in a single bound" and was more humanized and kicked thugs' ass was the best. He also toyed with them. I plan on getting more of those old comics. "The Superman Chronicles" offer that as well.







How kickass is that? Superman lost that element of the character once Byrne's reboot took place in '86 and rebooted the entire Superman character and also de-powered him in many ways. He made him more of an emotional being you see today (The Big Blue Boyscott image of do-gooder the comic book world wanted) and made Clark look like a bumbling oaf and fool rather than a confident and to the point journalist.

[Rip Rokken]

Def, I loved the origin of what Siegel and Shuster intended Superman to be and that's put gang-bangers and street thugs in their place and Superman was NOT afraid to fuck some shit up then. Of course he took oath now and will NOT kill and holds back in many fights given his power level but the Golden Age Superman where he "leaped tall buildings in a single bound" and was more humanized and kicked thugs' ass was the best. He also toyed with them. I plan on getting more of those old comics. "The Superman Chronicles" offer that as well.

That rules!!!

[Abitaman]

RIP, just when I thought you couldn't get any more cooler than you are, you surprise me. While I was in Florida, we all went out to get ice cream and had a big ass Superman ice cream waffle cone. It was delish.

I need to try it in a waffle cone! I'd never heard of it before until I ran across it a few weeks ago, and even the store owner said he'd been "scared to try it". Well, obviously I went first and was pleasantly surprised. And within minutes I'd Googled it to find it's identified with Michigan (it's origin may be a place called Stroh's). I'm addicted to the stuff now.

The late very great Don Newton, on the Batman picture, correct?

He was my favorite Bat artist, period!!