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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:19 am

Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.
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Postby Deb » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:58 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.


Agreed, they lost this fan back on Lost Highway, didn't like the tracks I heard........it was THE first album I didn't buy of theirs, probably won't buy The Circle either. Just don't like the direction they're going. LOVED These Days and Crush even had it's moments too, but This Left Feels Right totally sucked IMO and Lost Highway didn't grab me, save for a song or 2 maybe.

Although, surprisingly JBJ's vocals don't sound too bad on that song.
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Re: Bon Jovi - New Single - What Do You Got?

Postby Babyblue » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:04 am

portland wrote:Streaming on Bon Jovi's Site

http://www.bonjovi.com/audio-clip/all/b ... do_you_got



Portland, thanks for sharing this song.I love bonJovi still a great band. :wink: :D
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:22 am

Deb wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.


Agreed, they lost this fan back on Lost Highway, didn't like the tracks I heard........it was THE first album I didn't buy of theirs, probably won't buy The Circle either. Just don't like the direction they're going. LOVED These Days and Crush even had it's moments too, but This Left Feels Right totally sucked IMO and Lost Highway didn't grab me, save for a song or 2 maybe.

Although, surprisingly JBJ's vocals don't sound too bad on that song.



For what it's worth, The Circle is back to the rock sound of Bounce/Have a Nice Day as opposed to the country sound of Lost Highway. It may not be their best cd, but it is NOT country.

NP: Jimmy Barnes - Rage & Ruin....new cd that is back to the hard rock he's known for, though quite varied in tempo. Don't know how it will rank in the long term, but it's been far too long since he's done a proper rock album, and there are some definite contenders for song of the year on this one 8)
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Postby Deb » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:37 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.


Agreed, they lost this fan back on Lost Highway, didn't like the tracks I heard........it was THE first album I didn't buy of theirs, probably won't buy The Circle either. Just don't like the direction they're going. LOVED These Days and Crush even had it's moments too, but This Left Feels Right totally sucked IMO and Lost Highway didn't grab me, save for a song or 2 maybe.

Although, surprisingly JBJ's vocals don't sound too bad on that song.



For what it's worth, The Circle is back to the rock sound of Bounce/Have a Nice Day as opposed to the country sound of Lost Highway. It may not be their best cd, but it is NOT country.

NP: Jimmy Barnes - Rage & Ruin....new cd that is back to the hard rock he's known for, though quite varied in tempo. Don't know how it will rank in the long term, but it's been far too long since he's done a proper rock album, and there are some definite contenders for song of the year on this one 8)


Speaking of Jimmy Barnes, was looking at the Soul Deep and Soul Deeper cds the other day after you posted that Higher and Higher clip and in your opinion which one is better? I'm leaning towards the first one.

And was listening to HLS on the way to work, Hey Baby came on and I just cranked it, gawd I just love that guy's tone/delivery. Damn I missed alot of great vocals back in my Bon Jovi days. :lol: LOL sorry Portie, for the most part I still like BJ. :)
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Postby portland » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:47 am

Deb wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.


Agreed, they lost this fan back on Lost Highway, didn't like the tracks I heard........it was THE first album I didn't buy of theirs, probably won't buy The Circle either. Just don't like the direction they're going. LOVED These Days and Crush even had it's moments too, but This Left Feels Right totally sucked IMO and Lost Highway didn't grab me, save for a song or 2 maybe.

Although, surprisingly JBJ's vocals don't sound too bad on that song.



I still love Bon Jovi.....I bought the Circle...it's not my favorite but I do like (not love) it.

I will say live they still bring it.

I love the fact that you have the boys together doing what they do best....I know some boys who could
learn from that! :wink:
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Postby ebake02 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:48 am

Too cookie cutter for my taste. Sounds like every other country/pop song out there. Kinda sounds like that "life lesson" crap that Nickelback puts out now too.
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Postby Deb » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:55 am

portland wrote:
Deb wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.


Agreed, they lost this fan back on Lost Highway, didn't like the tracks I heard........it was THE first album I didn't buy of theirs, probably won't buy The Circle either. Just don't like the direction they're going. LOVED These Days and Crush even had it's moments too, but This Left Feels Right totally sucked IMO and Lost Highway didn't grab me, save for a song or 2 maybe.

Although, surprisingly JBJ's vocals don't sound too bad on that song.



I still love Bon Jovi.....I bought the Circle...it's not my favorite but I do like (not love) it.

I will say live they still bring it.

I love the fact that you have the boys together doing what they do best....I know some boys who could
learn from that!
:wink:


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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:40 am

Deb wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
NP: Jimmy Barnes - Rage & Ruin....new cd that is back to the hard rock he's known for, though quite varied in tempo. Don't know how it will rank in the long term, but it's been far too long since he's done a proper rock album, and there are some definite contenders for song of the year on this one 8)


Speaking of Jimmy Barnes, was looking at the Soul Deep and Soul Deeper cds the other day after you posted that Higher and Higher clip and in your opinion which one is better? I'm leaning towards the first one.


Soul Deep by FAR. Deeper was recorded during the drug period, and suffers heavily from it--including the fact that his voice is pretty shot from the cocaine abuse (he has recovered somewhat since going sober).




Deb wrote:And was listening to HLS on the way to work, Hey Baby came on and I just cranked it, gawd I just love that guy's tone/delivery. Damn I missed alot of great vocals back in my Bon Jovi days. :lol: LOL sorry Portie, for the most part I still like BJ. :)


have you found the I've Got Everything cd yet? Great stuff...
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Postby Deb » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:56 am

kgdjpubs wrote:
Deb wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
NP: Jimmy Barnes - Rage & Ruin....new cd that is back to the hard rock he's known for, though quite varied in tempo. Don't know how it will rank in the long term, but it's been far too long since he's done a proper rock album, and there are some definite contenders for song of the year on this one 8)


Speaking of Jimmy Barnes, was looking at the Soul Deep and Soul Deeper cds the other day after you posted that Higher and Higher clip and in your opinion which one is better? I'm leaning towards the first one.


Soul Deep by FAR. Deeper was recorded during the drug period, and suffers heavily from it--including the fact that his voice is pretty shot from the cocaine abuse (he has recovered somewhat since going sober).




Deb wrote:And was listening to HLS on the way to work, Hey Baby came on and I just cranked it, gawd I just love that guy's tone/delivery. Damn I missed alot of great vocals back in my Bon Jovi days. :lol: LOL sorry Portie, for the most part I still like BJ. :)


have you found the I've Got Everything cd yet? Great stuff...


Yep, that's the cd I was listening to. Really dig Slamdunk too. And especially that first cd. And thanks for the info on Soul Deep. Recently bought EM's cd Soul Sessions, great stuff too! :) Sooooo much great music, so little time. :lol:
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:53 pm

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Deb wrote:And was listening to HLS on the way to work, Hey Baby came on and I just cranked it, gawd I just love that guy's tone/delivery. Damn I missed alot of great vocals back in my Bon Jovi days. :lol: LOL sorry Portie, for the most part I still like BJ. :)


have you found the I've Got Everything cd yet? Great stuff...


Yep, that's the cd I was listening to. Really dig Slamdunk too. And especially that first cd.


What are your thoughts on Don't Leave from I've Got Everything? Love that one, and the Motown influence shines brightly there.

Slamdunk is pretty good. Forever Ain't What It Used to Be is a monster, and one of his best vocals. I would have left Boys and Girls... off, but he didn't write that one.

You really need to order the live album. The vibe is great, and he does some cool things with jamming and rocking out a few songs.




Deb wrote:And thanks for the info on Soul Deep.


you should like it. Stands out like a sore thumb in comparison to a lot of his records, but it's very good.
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Postby Deb » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:52 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:What are your thoughts on Don't Leave from I've Got Everything? Love that one, and the Motown influence shines brightly there.


Love that one, great song. My Louisa is kind of a fun song too.

kgdjpubs wrote:Slamdunk is pretty good. Forever Ain't What It Used to Be is a monster, and one of his best vocals. I would have left Boys and Girls... off, but he didn't write that one.


Agree on both point. Kinda like that crunchy Ain't That Love song too that starts the cd, it's different. But I think I still like his over the top grandiose style vocals on Darlin Danielle Don't, especially that last verse/chorus. Kinda reminds me somewhat of the Still They Ride style. Well, except HLS is a little more Joe Cocker style when he throws his whole body into emoting mode. :lol: But hey, goofy or not, I dig an artist that throws himself right into it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te3Ug5jKXAg&ob=av2e

kgdjpubs wrote:You really need to order the live album. The vibe is great, and he does some cool things with jamming and rocking out a few songs.


Was going to order it from the site but they don't do Paypal. And I can't be bothered to go to the bank and convert a Canadian money order to US. I only like to use Paypal if I order any music from the web.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:06 pm

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kgdjpubs wrote:What are your thoughts on Don't Leave from I've Got Everything? Love that one, and the Motown influence shines brightly there.


Love that one, great song. My Louisa is kind of a fun song too.


pretty solid cd overall. His sound stands out a bit more on that cd than the s/t cd, which did it's best to put him in the John Melloncamp mode.



Deb wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:Slamdunk is pretty good. Forever Ain't What It Used to Be is a monster, and one of his best vocals. I would have left Boys and Girls... off, but he didn't write that one.


Agree on both point. Kinda like that crunchy Ain't That Love song too that starts the cd.


Ain't That Love is cool. A bit of a departure for him, but very cool nonetheless. A very rocking cd compared to most of his stuff--not that it's a bad thing at all!



Deb wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:You really need to order the live album. The vibe is great, and he does some cool things with jamming and rocking out a few songs.


Was going to order it from the site but they don't do Paypal. And I can't be bothered to go to the bank and convert a Canadian money order to US. I only like to use Paypal if I order anything off the web.


ugh.. :( Grocery stores will do it here, but dunno if they do that in Canada or not. Trust me when I say that it's worth the hassle.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:31 pm

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Sounds like they're still going for the country crossover market. Catchy enough, but pretty mellow.


Agreed, they lost this fan back on Lost Highway, didn't like the tracks I heard........it was THE first album I didn't buy of theirs, probably won't buy The Circle either. Just don't like the direction they're going. LOVED These Days and Crush even had it's moments too, but This Left Feels Right totally sucked IMO and Lost Highway didn't grab me, save for a song or 2 maybe.

Although, surprisingly JBJ's vocals don't sound too bad on that song.



I still love Bon Jovi.....I bought the Circle...it's not my favorite but I do like (not love) it.

I will say live they still bring it.

I love the fact that you have the boys together doing what they do best....I know some boys who could
learn from that! :wink:


They kept touting The Circle as a "return to their classic sound", but it was anything but! If they meant early Bon Jovi, it sounded nothing like it except for a few poorly done ripoffs of other B.J. songs (like "Work For the Working Man" - redo of "Livin on a Prayer"). I only really liked the first song, but there wasn't anything special about it either -- it was just catchy. On a whole, people don't like this album. So if they can't write a good rock record anymore, what are they going to do? They won't go anywhere, though -- they've solidified their place by perpetually selling out. I believe they lost the ability to write a long time ago, though. Sure, some good songs here and there, but I think it would really take a good solid outside writer to help them deliver a great album.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:56 am

Rip Rokken wrote:They kept touting The Circle as a "return to their classic sound", but it was anything but! If they meant early Bon Jovi, it sounded nothing like it except for a few poorly done ripoffs of other B.J. songs (like "Work For the Working Man" - redo of "Livin on a Prayer"). I only really liked the first song, but there wasn't anything special about it either -- it was just catchy. On a whole, people don't like this album. So if they can't write a good rock record anymore, what are they going to do? They won't go anywhere, though -- they've solidified their place by perpetually selling out. I believe they lost the ability to write a long time ago, though. Sure, some good songs here and there, but I think it would really take a good solid outside writer to help them deliver a great album.


I never saw anything about returning to the classic sound, although it may well have been said. All I heard was a return to a rock album--as opposed to the countryish direction of Lost Highway. In that respect, it is correct. The Circle is a rock album--not in the style that most people were expecting, and or want for that matter, but it is a rock album. The style doesn't bother me, but barring the odd exception, the songs don't stand out.

I think they have lost the fire for songwriting, but that's been my general feeling since hearing Crush. They don't put out many outright bad songs, just not much that stands out either.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:54 am

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Rip Rokken wrote:They kept touting The Circle as a "return to their classic sound", but it was anything but! If they meant early Bon Jovi, it sounded nothing like it except for a few poorly done ripoffs of other B.J. songs (like "Work For the Working Man" - redo of "Livin on a Prayer"). I only really liked the first song, but there wasn't anything special about it either -- it was just catchy. On a whole, people don't like this album. So if they can't write a good rock record anymore, what are they going to do? They won't go anywhere, though -- they've solidified their place by perpetually selling out. I believe they lost the ability to write a long time ago, though. Sure, some good songs here and there, but I think it would really take a good solid outside writer to help them deliver a great album.


I never saw anything about returning to the classic sound, although it may well have been said. All I heard was a return to a rock album--as opposed to the countryish direction of Lost Highway. In that respect, it is correct. The Circle is a rock album--not in the style that most people were expecting, and or want for that matter, but it is a rock album. The style doesn't bother me, but barring the odd exception, the songs don't stand out.

I think they have lost the fire for songwriting, but that's been my general feeling since hearing Crush. They don't put out many outright bad songs, just not much that stands out either.


I could swear I've seen the comment, but I wonder if I didn't just misinterpret things like this (from Rolling Stone):

"Bon Jovi told Rolling Stone that they'll be going "back to rock & roll" on their next album, and today we learned when their [b]return to their roots will go down: Bon Jovi announced today that their next album The Circle will be released on November 10th. First single "We Weren't Born To Follow" debuted on radio yesterday, featuring an anthemic chorus of "We weren't born to follow, come on and get up off your knees, when life is a bitter pill to swallow, you got to hold on to what you believe." Have a listen at the Island Def Jam site."[/b]

Songwriting, I agree totally. Starting with "It's My Life", they wrote the same song for the next two albums - same theme, same structure, even ending similarly. I liked them all, but to me they are becoming the AC/DC of radio rock -- somehow getting by with writing the same song over and over. I really liked some of the stuff on Crush, especially the opening song -- it's been a while and I forget, but I think it was inspired by 9/11.

I'm not even too interested in listening to the new release if it's back in the country direction. If that's true, it says only one thing -- they are strictly following the money, and most of the money is in Country these days.
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Postby S2M » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:14 am

If Bon Jovi happens to be a fave of yours...well...nothing I say will make sense...that being said. Bon Jovi has been irrelevant, save for the concert going lunatics, since 1988's Slippery When Wet's 6 singles....since then I can count FOUR remotely good songs, Bed of Roses, It's my life, Have a nice Day...and my favorite post-SWW song...Love Me Back To Life. Jon has become Bruce. Singing about the plight of the everyman...in a word: Boring. They have become emasculated...taking estrogen treatments for 22 years....if you look closely you can see Jon's mammaries in U-571....
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S2M wrote:If Bon Jovi happens to be a fave of yours...well...nothing I say will make sense...that being said. Bon Jovi has been irrelevant, save for the concert going lunatics, since 1988's Slippery When Wet's 6 singles....since then I can count FOUR remotely good songs, Bed of Roses, It's my life, Have a nice Day...and my favorite post-SWW song...Love Me Back To Life. Jon has become Bruce. Singing about the plight of the everyman...in a word: Boring.


"Bed of Roses" is straight for the chicks, lol. Jon also uses some of the cheesiest metaphors in his lyrics -- they are painful. If we were talking action movie one-liners, Jon would be the Chuck Norris of the bunch.

I think the best blue-collar anthems have probably already been written, and nothing he's going to write has any chance of hitting home with steel workers, etc. Better for him to concentrate on pleasing the chicks, his target audience.


S2M wrote:They have become emasculated...taking estrogen treatments for 22 years....if you look closely you can see Jon's mammaries in U-571....


I agree 100%... once this happened, they committed down that long, one-way road of no return.

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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:47 am

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I'm not even too interested in listening to the new release if it's back in the country direction. If that's true, it says only one thing -- they are strictly following the money, and most of the money is in Country these days.



The new cd it is NOT country. Coldplay or U2-styled, maybe, but not country at all.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:49 am

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I'm not even too interested in listening to the new release if it's back in the country direction. If that's true, it says only one thing -- they are strictly following the money, and most of the money is in Country these days.



The new cd it is NOT country. Coldplay or U2-styled, maybe, but not country at all.


So you're saying it is strictly for the chicks?

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Rip Rokken wrote:
I'm not even too interested in listening to the new release if it's back in the country direction. If that's true, it says only one thing -- they are strictly following the money, and most of the money is in Country these days.



The new cd it is NOT country. Coldplay or U2-styled, maybe, but not country at all.


So you're saying it is strictly for the chicks?


it's Bon Jovi....they have never been the pure male hard rock band--and the audience looks much better than if they were!

I'd call it a rock album. Pretty much following the same road as Bounce and Have a Nice Day (which was a rather good album, and the best since These Days). Fairly guitar-driven, but generally mid-tempo. Not their best, not their worst. There is some good stuff, but they sound a bit tired overall. If you liked those albums, it's not all that different. If you hated everything since New Jersey, your opinion won't change.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:35 am

kgdjpubs wrote:it's Bon Jovi....they have never been the pure male hard rock band--and the audience looks much better than if they were!


So guys that aren't pure male may like it, then?

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I'm not even too interested in listening to the new release if it's back in the country direction. If that's true, it says only one thing -- they are strictly following the money, and most of the money is in Country these days.



The new cd it is NOT country. Coldplay or U2-styled, maybe, but not country at all.


Oh, wait -- I thought this new song was from a new studio album, but it's from a Greatest Hits package. Were you talking about The Circle? I just listened to the song and it's ok, but nothing fresh at all.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:50 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
I'm not even too interested in listening to the new release if it's back in the country direction. If that's true, it says only one thing -- they are strictly following the money, and most of the money is in Country these days.



The new cd it is NOT country. Coldplay or U2-styled, maybe, but not country at all.


Oh, wait -- I thought this new song was from a new studio album, but it's from a Greatest Hits package. Were you talking about The Circle? I just listened to the song and it's ok, but nothing fresh at all.


yea, I'm talking about The Circle.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:11 am

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Rip Rokken wrote:Oh, wait -- I thought this new song was from a new studio album, but it's from a Greatest Hits package. Were you talking about The Circle? I just listened to the song and it's ok, but nothing fresh at all.


yea, I'm talking about The Circle.


Ahh, gotcha. Whatever they have coming next, I'm just going to predict (based on this new song), that it will be listenable but extremely cliched. I think the perfect word to describe them:

cli·chéd also cli·ched (kl-shd)
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Having become stale or commonplace through overuse; hackneyed
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:20 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
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Rip Rokken wrote:Oh, wait -- I thought this new song was from a new studio album, but it's from a Greatest Hits package. Were you talking about The Circle? I just listened to the song and it's ok, but nothing fresh at all.


yea, I'm talking about The Circle.


Ahh, gotcha. Whatever they have coming next, I'm just going to predict (based on this new song), that it will be listenable but extremely cliched. I think the perfect word to describe them:

cli·chéd also cli·ched (kl-shd)
adj.
Having become stale or commonplace through overuse; hackneyed



personally, I think they either need to shake it up a bit with a different style a la These Days (which I still think might be their best cd), or take a year off and do solo albums. Wouldn't mind another Richie Sambora solo album at all. Both of his were very good--and Stranger is an absolute classic.
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Postby portland » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:07 am

OK...This was not going to be a slam Bon Jovi thread!!!



They are what they are....and well they had over 35,000 at the concert I attended.....and no it was not only
women...there were plenty of men...on their feet for the entire show...loving all of it.


So yes they have gone down the road of many types of music....but I think they actually get it....you need
to move with the times to make the real money....and well they have and ARE.


There was NO dirty dozen...yes there were some old faves...but the new stuff was as well receipted as the old stuff...so check
your attitude and glands at the door...if you don't like the band then fine.


But to say they are not relevant is a JOKE!!!

They are WAY more relevant than the Journey of today.
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Postby portland » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:08 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Oh, wait -- I thought this new song was from a new studio album, but it's from a Greatest Hits package. Were you talking about The Circle? I just listened to the song and it's ok, but nothing fresh at all.


yea, I'm talking about The Circle.


Ahh, gotcha. Whatever they have coming next, I'm just going to predict (based on this new song), that it will be listenable but extremely cliched. I think the perfect word to describe them:

cli·chéd also cli·ched (kl-shd)
adj.
Having become stale or commonplace through overuse; hackneyed



Rip head to the nearest Journey concert and take a breath!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:22 am

portland wrote:OK...This was not going to be a slam Bon Jovi thread!!!

They are what they are....and well they had over 35,000 at the concert I attended.....and no it was not only
women...there were plenty of men...on their feet for the entire show...loving all of it.

So yes they have gone down the road of many types of music....but I think they actually get it....you need
to move with the times to make the real money....and well they have and ARE.

There was NO dirty dozen...yes there were some old faves...but the new stuff was as well receipted as the old stuff...so check
your attitude and glands at the door...if you don't like the band then fine.

But to say they are not relevant is a JOKE!!!

They are WAY more relevant than the Journey of today.


good to know they are back to putting on a good show. I was going to hit one of their shows this tour as it has been a few years since I saw them (on a performance well below what they were capable of), but the closest they came was 3hrs away in the middle of the week--and that just wasn't happening. When they aren't phoning it in, they are a VERY good live band. The time prior to that one on the previous tour blew the roof off the stadium as had the previous show, which might account for the elevated expectations. Maybe I just hit a bad night.

They certainly have been mixing up the setlist with a good helping of new material, and some rare stuff. They have enough hits to do a very static setlist that would please most people, and they don't do that. They have kept changing styles, and that has never been a problem with me as long as the quality stays up.
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