Stephen Hawking says universe not created by God

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:31 am

Rip Rokken wrote: Now, if you do apparently do anything so little as pick sticks up off the ground, apparently the penalty was death. I watched Bil Maher's documentary "Religulous" where he interviews some Jews who have gone to extraordinary lengths to invent machines that accomplish things without breaking the Sabbath laws.


Ahhhhh the laws of shabbat... that's some messed up stuff right there. I mean hey... whatever, if that's your life, your culture... then by all means have at it.... but some of these "laws" are just unreasonable... especially when they leak out and start affecting the rest of us. This is good story... the last hotel I worked for was in a predominantly jewish area... the assisant GM told me a story of a guy trying to blame the hotel for items stolen from his room... he left the door wedged open - no use of electronic anything allowed on shabbat, including hotel door locks, apparently - and left his room. Then told the hotel it was their fault he was robbed.

Um. I think not. :roll: So, better you get robbed than use an electonic keycard reader? What if it was worse than robbery? What if his wife was in the room and got assaulted or something? I mean ... wow. All that for some thousand-year-old 'tradition'... i mean again, whatever.. I just don't get it.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:53 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
BobbyinTN wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
S2M wrote:Btw, I've found GOD'S krytonite...it is amputations. I've never heard of ONE miracle where an amputee suddenly woke up with a new arm, leg....etc. No matter how many prayers were sent, god just ignores the Limb Challenged....he doesn't like them. I don't know. He can handle the Blind, the Deaf...Cancer...but for some reason scoffs at them...go figure.

I'll listen to reasons if you have them...


It happened at least once...

Matthew 12:9-14 - Going on from that place, he [Jesus] went into their synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, they asked him, 'Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?' He said to them, 'If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.' Then he said to the man, 'Stretch out your hand.' So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.


Rip, using the Bible to prove the Bible is correct is like using THE LORD OF THE RINGS to prove the existence of Hobbits.



LMAO!! :lol:


LOL, I was being facetious of course, since much of the debate has been on the reliability of the Bible. But I don't need any book to prove Hobbits exist -- I've seen them!

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I thought you were, but wasn't sure. And that was funny. LOL
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Postby BobbyinTN » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:56 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:If he would create the universe and life on Earth, why wouldn't he design all of us to have powers such as he? Instead, after he found that Dinosaurs are boring, he sat there and "hopes" and puts his own "faith" into leading himself to believe that we will worship him and only him, and if we don't, then we pay for it. Like I said, what a dick.


When a lot of people think of the 10 Commandments, and how just posting them in our schools would be a great guide for kids, they aren't really thinking. Here are the first three:

1. You shall have no other gods before me.

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


And as far as the 7th day being a day of rest, far from it.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Now, if you do apparently do anything so little as pick sticks up off the ground, apparently the penalty was death. I watched Bil Maher's documentary "Religulous" where he interviews some Jews who have gone to extraordinary lengths to invent machines that accomplish things without breaking the Sabbath laws.

Can you freaking imagine this? Think if your boss gave you two days off to "rest", but placed such restrictions on the definition of rest that work days might have actually been a relief. Even if the New Testament way is different, that's apparently the way it was at one time, and it makes no sense. Definitely wouldn't foster love toward whoever makes the rules.

As ridiculous as it is, some of our current laws still carry that influence, such as the inability to purchase alcohol in stores on Sundays (that includes non-alcoholic beer, btw).


So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:28 am

BobbyinTN wrote:So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL


The "laws" of the bible, regardless of what religion is practiced, are obsolete. Created originally to basically whip folks into shape and get them behaving in the absence of "law and order". Eventually a few of them were declared punishable crimes, but most of that is just hooey. I mean really.... be a good person, don't run around killing people and taking their shit when they ain't looking.... that's about it. The rest of that is "tradition". Who really observes the sabbath one, especially in christian groups... taking lord's name in vain.... again, who adheres strictly to that... and how many people don't even KNOW that commandment... :lol: I had this argument with someone once after they "scolded" me about saying 'jesus christ' and invoked the commandment on me. I took great joy in pointing out that the commandments were from the old testament, before Jesus was added to the cast. (everyone's got their interpretations, I know, so save it.... :lol: )

I think it's funny what lengths people go to in order to cite the bible and argue what is or isn't "right" (not only with regard to the top 10... but the whole thing...) only to find out that many people don't really even know what's in there. :lol:
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Postby BobbyinTN » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:42 am

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BobbyinTN wrote:So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL


The "laws" of the bible, regardless of what religion is practiced, are obsolete. Created originally to basically whip folks into shape and get them behaving in the absence of "law and order". Eventually a few of them were declared punishable crimes, but most of that is just hooey. I mean really.... be a good person, don't run around killing people and taking their shit when they ain't looking.... that's about it. The rest of that is "tradition". Who really observes the sabbath one, especially in christian groups... taking lord's name in vain.... again, who adheres strictly to that... and how many people don't even KNOW that commandment... :lol: I had this argument with someone once after they "scolded" me about saying 'jesus christ' and invoked the commandment on me. I took great joy in pointing out that the commandments were from the old testament, before Jesus was added to the cast. (everyone's got their interpretations, I know, so save it.... :lol: )

I think it's funny what lengths people go to in order to cite the bible and argue what is or isn't "right" (not only with regard to the top 10... but the whole thing...) only to find out that many people don't really even know what's in there. :lol:


Funny story about hypocrisy. I worked with this girl who had three different kids by three different guys who were all in jail, she stole shit, every other word was "motherfucker" or "whore" and she was basically a horrible person. One day while doing something I cut myself and said "goddamn it". She looked at me as if I had just killed her convict lovers and said, "don't say that around me, I hate that word and it's wrong to take God's name in vain". I told her God is a title, not a fuckin' name. She's hated me since. LOL
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Postby parfait » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:49 am

Great. The thread turned into bible study.
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Postby Tomulator » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:53 am

But GOD made Stephen Hawking...although I bet right at this moment He is wondering why.

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Postby Tomulator » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:56 am

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Until I have one...just ONE reason to believe in a Wizard we call God, I remain on the side to where anything that has ever been explained in everyday life has been proven in a Scientific setting of living and any synonym in its form.


WHO made you?

Hmmm....
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:57 am

parfait wrote:Great. The thread turned into bible study.


Well, the bible is where the story of creation is, and the topic was that Stephen hawking says it isn't true, so it was always a topic of bible study.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:00 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Ahh, the laws of shabbat... that's some messed up stuff right there. I mean hey... whatever, if that's your life, your culture... then by all means have at it.... but some of these "laws" are just unreasonable... especially when they leak out and start affecting the rest of us. This is good story... the last hotel I worked for was in a predominantly jewish area... the assisant GM told me a story of a guy trying to blame the hotel for items stolen from his room... he left the door wedged open - no use of electronic anything allowed on shabbat, including hotel door locks, apparently - and left his room. Then told the hotel it was their fault he was robbed.

Um. I think not. :roll: So, better you get robbed than use an electonic keycard reader? What if it was worse than robbery? What if his wife was in the room and got assaulted or something? I mean ... wow. All that for some thousand-year-old 'tradition'... i mean again, whatever.. I just don't get it.


So funny, especially since electronic devices weren't invented until several thousand years later. Me, I'd argue I was using the card, not the electronic door lock. :)
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Postby parfait » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:09 am

Tomulator wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Image

Until I have one...just ONE reason to believe in a Wizard we call God, I remain on the side to where anything that has ever been explained in everyday life has been proven in a Scientific setting of living and any synonym in its form.


WHO made you?

Hmmm....


Puh! Real good points. You're one clever little kitten.
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Postby Ligzig » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:30 am

Tomulator wrote:WHO made you?

Hmmm....


Well, you see....when a girl and a boy have se---ah, fuck it.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:35 am

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Until I have one...just ONE reason to believe in a Wizard we call God, I remain on the side to where anything that has ever been explained in everyday life has been proven in a Scientific setting of living and any synonym in its form.


WHO made you?

Hmmm....


Jor-EL's sperm cells colliding with Lara's dropping salivating eggs hailing from planet Krypton. I certainly wasn't just PLACED here from the Heaven's above. You see, when you see a woman's stomach the size of an overgrown bubble, chances are they are carying a fetus that results into child birth some months later.:lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:39 am

I think it's funny what lengths people go to in order to cite the bible and argue what is or isn't "right" (not only with regard to the top 10... but the whole thing...) only to find out that many people don't really even know what's in there.


BINGO Kim. I've had discussions face to face with people about this who questions why I didn't believe. I told them a respectful answer and then went on to cite a verse from the Bible that was as immoral as anything anyone could ever agree on if you would indeed, see it with your own eyes. They disagreed and didn't believe such a thing existed in their life-supplier full of words. So I asked for their Bible, turned within the few couple pages and pointed out the exact verse.

Tons of people of religion preach the work of the Bible when they haven't even read one sentence from it. They simply obey that the Bible is the real deal only only because it's the right thing to do from a politically correct standpoint. Mistake #1.
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Postby Jana » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:16 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
I think it's funny what lengths people go to in order to cite the bible and argue what is or isn't "right" (not only with regard to the top 10... but the whole thing...) only to find out that many people don't really even know what's in there.


BINGO Kim. I've had discussions face to face with people about this who questions why I didn't believe. I told them a respectful answer and then went on to cite a verse from the Bible that was as immoral as anything anyone could ever agree on if you would indeed, see it with your own eyes. They disagreed and didn't believe such a thing existed in their life-supplier full of words. So I asked for their Bible, turned within the few couple pages and pointed out the exact verse.

Tons of people of religion preach the work of the Bible when they haven't even read one sentence from it. They simply obey that the Bible is the real deal only only because it's the right thing to do from a politically correct standpoint. Mistake #1.


This is true. For too many years, I went to Church and only listened or read the scripture they cited or that was in my Unity booklets that took a scripture and applied to everyday life. But once you tackle reading the Bible from cover to cover, it's mindboggling. Even though I have loss of faith, I still liked being brought up in church, Sunday School, etc, and like that for the children in our family.
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Postby Glenn » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:50 pm

Michigan Girl wrote:
S2M wrote:All you religious zealots make me sick...you can't even keep your hallowed 'rules' straight...Having 'faith' ends with religion? Can't have faith in anything else? Faith is supposed to be a belief of believing in something when the lack of evidence exists for it....unless, of course, having faith runs counter to the same religious beliefs that enable you to subscribe to a faith-based existence in the first place.... :roll:

Can't have 'faith' in Hawking, or his beliefs? Typical hypocritical religious dogma....pitiful.
I have faith that you will always go against the grain ...and that's ok!! ;)



Is it really ok? I guess it is since he keeps doing it on a regular basis.
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Postby S2M » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:52 pm

JSS Rocks! wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
S2M wrote:All you religious zealots make me sick...you can't even keep your hallowed 'rules' straight...Having 'faith' ends with religion? Can't have faith in anything else? Faith is supposed to be a belief of believing in something when the lack of evidence exists for it....unless, of course, having faith runs counter to the same religious beliefs that enable you to subscribe to a faith-based existence in the first place.... :roll:

Can't have 'faith' in Hawking, or his beliefs? Typical hypocritical religious dogma....pitiful.
I have faith that you will always go against the grain ...and that's ok!! ;)



Is it really ok? I guess it is since he keeps doing it on a regular basis.


And I will continue to do so when I see fit....I'm not a lemming. I don't conform. And I certainly don't kiss ass.
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Postby Glenn » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:15 pm

S2M wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
S2M wrote:All you religious zealots make me sick...you can't even keep your hallowed 'rules' straight...Having 'faith' ends with religion? Can't have faith in anything else? Faith is supposed to be a belief of believing in something when the lack of evidence exists for it....unless, of course, having faith runs counter to the same religious beliefs that enable you to subscribe to a faith-based existence in the first place.... :roll:

Can't have 'faith' in Hawking, or his beliefs? Typical hypocritical religious dogma....pitiful.
I have faith that you will always go against the grain ...and that's ok!! ;)



Is it really ok? I guess it is since he keeps doing it on a regular basis.


And I will continue to do so when I see fit....I'm not a lemming. I don't conform. And I certainly don't kiss ass.


No one is asking you to kiss ass.

It's just a bit overboard sometimes.

But free speech is our God given right, so by all means, carry on.
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:37 pm

BobbyinTN wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:If he would create the universe and life on Earth, why wouldn't he design all of us to have powers such as he? Instead, after he found that Dinosaurs are boring, he sat there and "hopes" and puts his own "faith" into leading himself to believe that we will worship him and only him, and if we don't, then we pay for it. Like I said, what a dick.


When a lot of people think of the 10 Commandments, and how just posting them in our schools would be a great guide for kids, they aren't really thinking. Here are the first three:

1. You shall have no other gods before me.

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

ou shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


And as far as the 7th day being a day of rest, far from it.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Now, if you do apparently do anything so little as pick sticks up off the ground, apparently the penalty was death. I watched Bil Maher's documentary "Religulous" where he interviews some Jews who have gone to extraordinary lengths to invent machines that accomplish things without breaking the Sabbath laws.

Can you freaking imagine this? Think if your boss gave you two days off to "rest", but placed such restrictions on the definition of rest that work days might have actually been a relief. Even if the New Testament way is different, that's apparently the way it was at one time, and it makes no sense. Definitely wouldn't foster love toward whoever makes the rules.

As ridiculous as it is, some of our current laws still carry that influence, such as the inability to purchase alcohol in stores on Sundays (that includes non-alcoholic beer, btw).


So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL
Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time
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Postby S2M » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:49 pm

JSS Rocks! wrote:
S2M wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
S2M wrote:All you religious zealots make me sick...you can't even keep your hallowed 'rules' straight...Having 'faith' ends with religion? Can't have faith in anything else? Faith is supposed to be a belief of believing in something when the lack of evidence exists for it....unless, of course, having faith runs counter to the same religious beliefs that enable you to subscribe to a faith-based existence in the first place.... :roll:

Can't have 'faith' in Hawking, or his beliefs? Typical hypocritical religious dogma....pitiful.
I have faith that you will always go against the grain ...and that's ok!! ;)



Is it really ok? I guess it is since he keeps doing it on a regular basis.


And I will continue to do so when I see fit....I'm not a lemming. I don't conform. And I certainly don't kiss ass.


No one is asking you to kiss ass.

It's just a bit overboard sometimes.

But free speech is our God given right, so by all means, carry on.



Is it really our GOD given right? :wink:
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:09 pm

stevew2 wrote:Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time


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Postby stevew2 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:24 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time


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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:59 pm

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Rip Rokken wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time


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Postby BobbyinTN » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:36 am

stevew2 wrote:
BobbyinTN wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:If he would create the universe and life on Earth, why wouldn't he design all of us to have powers such as he? Instead, after he found that Dinosaurs are boring, he sat there and "hopes" and puts his own "faith" into leading himself to believe that we will worship him and only him, and if we don't, then we pay for it. Like I said, what a dick.


When a lot of people think of the 10 Commandments, and how just posting them in our schools would be a great guide for kids, they aren't really thinking. Here are the first three:

1. You shall have no other gods before me.

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

ou shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


And as far as the 7th day being a day of rest, far from it.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Now, if you do apparently do anything so little as pick sticks up off the ground, apparently the penalty was death. I watched Bil Maher's documentary "Religulous" where he interviews some Jews who have gone to extraordinary lengths to invent machines that accomplish things without breaking the Sabbath laws.

Can you freaking imagine this? Think if your boss gave you two days off to "rest", but placed such restrictions on the definition of rest that work days might have actually been a relief. Even if the New Testament way is different, that's apparently the way it was at one time, and it makes no sense. Definitely wouldn't foster love toward whoever makes the rules.

As ridiculous as it is, some of our current laws still carry that influence, such as the inability to purchase alcohol in stores on Sundays (that includes non-alcoholic beer, btw).


So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL
Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time



You ALWAYS go too far and are usually the only one bringing up anything gay.

Do you need to tell us all something? Why are you so obsessed?
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:20 am

BobbyinTN wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
BobbyinTN wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:If he would create the universe and life on Earth, why wouldn't he design all of us to have powers such as he? Instead, after he found that Dinosaurs are boring, he sat there and "hopes" and puts his own "faith" into leading himself to believe that we will worship him and only him, and if we don't, then we pay for it. Like I said, what a dick.


When a lot of people think of the 10 Commandments, and how just posting them in our schools would be a great guide for kids, they aren't really thinking. Here are the first three:

1. You shall have no other gods before me.

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

ou shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


And as far as the 7th day being a day of rest, far from it.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Now, if you do apparently do anything so little as pick sticks up off the ground, apparently the penalty was death. I watched Bil Maher's documentary "Religulous" where he interviews some Jews who have gone to extraordinary lengths to invent machines that accomplish things without breaking the Sabbath laws.

Can you freaking imagine this? Think if your boss gave you two days off to "rest", but placed such restrictions on the definition of rest that work days might have actually been a relief. Even if the New Testament way is different, that's apparently the way it was at one time, and it makes no sense. Definitely wouldn't foster love toward whoever makes the rules.

As ridiculous as it is, some of our current laws still carry that influence, such as the inability to purchase alcohol in stores on Sundays (that includes non-alcoholic beer, btw).


So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL
Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time



You ALWAYS go too far and are usually the only one bringing up anything gay.

Do you need to tell us all something? Why are you so obsessed?


Dude, it's stevew, you should know by now, lol. His response's are more predictable than the sun rising that next day or the over/under of someone wiping their ass after taking a dump. 8)
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Postby BobbyinTN » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:46 am

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BobbyinTN wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
BobbyinTN wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:If he would create the universe and life on Earth, why wouldn't he design all of us to have powers such as he? Instead, after he found that Dinosaurs are boring, he sat there and "hopes" and puts his own "faith" into leading himself to believe that we will worship him and only him, and if we don't, then we pay for it. Like I said, what a dick.


When a lot of people think of the 10 Commandments, and how just posting them in our schools would be a great guide for kids, they aren't really thinking. Here are the first three:

1. You shall have no other gods before me.

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

ou shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


And as far as the 7th day being a day of rest, far from it.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Now, if you do apparently do anything so little as pick sticks up off the ground, apparently the penalty was death. I watched Bil Maher's documentary "Religulous" where he interviews some Jews who have gone to extraordinary lengths to invent machines that accomplish things without breaking the Sabbath laws.

Can you freaking imagine this? Think if your boss gave you two days off to "rest", but placed such restrictions on the definition of rest that work days might have actually been a relief. Even if the New Testament way is different, that's apparently the way it was at one time, and it makes no sense. Definitely wouldn't foster love toward whoever makes the rules.

As ridiculous as it is, some of our current laws still carry that influence, such as the inability to purchase alcohol in stores on Sundays (that includes non-alcoholic beer, btw).


So many Christians claim they follow the 10 Commandments, yet VERY few observe the Sabbath as the Bible says they should.

Of course, that law is left overs from the Jewish Bible, which had to be borrowed until they could write something for Christians, or I mean until "God" could write something for Christians. LOL
Having a day of rest is good for everyone, even turd hurders,thats just commen sense.The Bible has all kinds of good pratices that if people would live by it, they would be happier,like not doing it in the butt all the time



You ALWAYS go too far and are usually the only one bringing up anything gay.

Do you need to tell us all something? Why are you so obsessed?


Dude, it's stevew, you should know by now, lol. His response's are more predictable than the sun rising that next day or the over/under of someone wiping their ass after taking a dump. 8)


Or Glenn Beck crying. LOL
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