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Postby parfait » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:54 pm

Behshad wrote:
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parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. You haven't answered one single of my questions to you, but instead repeatedly told me that I'm close minded. I never told you to fuck yourself either - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:55 pm

parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:
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Postby parfait » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:58 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:


A warm and fuzzy feeling. I won because, let's face it; Ginger can't provide a sound argument to save her life. There are simply things that are right and wrong in this world too - not everything is based on opinions. The Theory of Evolution is a fact.
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Postby Rick » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:02 pm

parfait wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:


A warm and fuzzy feeling. I won because, let's face it; Ginger can't provide a sound argument to save her life. There are simply things that are right and wrong in this world too - not everything is based on opinions. The Theory of Evolution is a fact.


If it were a "fact", it wouldn't be called a "theory".
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:04 pm

parfait wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:


A warm and fuzzy feeling. I won because, let's face it; Ginger can't provide a sound argument to save her life. There are simply things that are right and wrong in this world too - not everything is based on opinions. The Theory of Evolution is a fact.


Can you have theory and fact in the same sentence? Is that an oxymoron? :P :lol: I'm not going on this merry-go-round again! You can win if you'll shut up! :twisted: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Ligzig » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:46 pm

Rick wrote:
parfait wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:


A warm and fuzzy feeling. I won because, let's face it; Ginger can't provide a sound argument to save her life. There are simply things that are right and wrong in this world too - not everything is based on opinions. The Theory of Evolution is a fact.


If it were a "fact", it wouldn't be called a "theory".


Wrong.

"Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion. A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity. A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis."

Learn the difference.
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Postby Rick » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:39 pm

Ligzig wrote:
Rick wrote:
parfait wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:


A warm and fuzzy feeling. I won because, let's face it; Ginger can't provide a sound argument to save her life. There are simply things that are right and wrong in this world too - not everything is based on opinions. The Theory of Evolution is a fact.


If it were a "fact", it wouldn't be called a "theory".


Wrong.

"Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion. A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity. A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis."

Learn the difference.


I know the difference between "theory" and "fact". "Facts" are irrefutable. Theories are disproved all the time. If Evolution were a fact, they wouldn't still refer to it as the "Theory of Evolution". Any one scientific theory in the world today can be blown out the window by one discovery tomorrow, and they know this, as it has happened over and over.
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Postby parfait » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:53 pm

Rick wrote:
Ligzig wrote:
Rick wrote:
parfait wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:
parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. I never told you to get the fuck out - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


Really? what did you win?? When you self proclaim victory, what is the prize??? :lol:


A warm and fuzzy feeling. I won because, let's face it; Ginger can't provide a sound argument to save her life. There are simply things that are right and wrong in this world too - not everything is based on opinions. The Theory of Evolution is a fact.


If it were a "fact", it wouldn't be called a "theory".


Wrong.

"Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion. A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity. A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis."

Learn the difference.


I know the difference between "theory" and "fact". "Facts" are irrefutable. Theories are disproved all the time. If Evolution were a fact, they wouldn't still refer to it as the "Theory of Evolution". Any one scientific theory in the world today can be blown out the window by one discovery tomorrow, and they know this, as it has happened over and over.


Jesus fucking christ! Haven't you read what I've written? It's like you people want to be retarded. Go to a biology class, read a book, whatever.

Deny it all you want. But I dare anyone of you to go to a biology class (college or university grade, even high school), and tell a biology professor that evolution is just some "hypothesis". He or she will laugh, sigh and then hit you in the fucking face. It's obvious that most of you has an religious agenda, and it's a true shame that because of that, you've forced schools to teach blatant lies to kids (creationism).

The rest of the western world is just facepalming, while you people teach kids that the earth is 60 000 years old and that some wizard in the sky made a woman out of a dude's rib. Yeah, great. Just great.

I don't believe in the theory of general relativity. I don't believe the theories of fluid flow. I don't believe in the theories of quantum mechanics. I sure as hell don't believe in that heliocentric shit. Why? Uh... It's just like theories, you know. Evil scientists made it all up and stuff.
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Postby Ligzig » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:24 pm

Rick wrote:I know the difference between "theory" and "fact". "Facts" are irrefutable. Theories are disproved all the time. If Evolution were a fact, they wouldn't still refer to it as the "Theory of Evolution". Any one scientific theory in the world today can be blown out the window by one discovery tomorrow, and they know this, as it has happened over and over.


Did you even read what I wrote there? What part of "A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity" did you NOT understand? Judging by your reading comprehension, it doesn't surprise me you missed the entire point.

I'm really not trying to be a dick, but when you decide to poke your nose in and lay your opinion down on a subject, it's nice to at least have a little bit of an idea of what you're talking about before you do so.

Why are most of the people on this forum so harsh on science and the scientific method but yet ignore outrageous claims like "god is real and created the world 6000 years ago" without requiring ANY evidence whatsoever, and no, the bible is NOT evidence. I want empirical evidence just like any other reasonably intelligent person. A rare species on this board.

But of course, the religious meme still strong as ever...
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:34 pm

parfait wrote:And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. You haven't answered one single of my questions to you, but instead repeatedly told me that I'm close minded. I never told you to fuck yourself either - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.


LOL, I prophesy that before the cock crows, you'll deny telling Ginger to "GTFO" three times. Two down and one to go.

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Dude, debates are fun, but if you want any credibility at all, you have to have the ability to admit when you are wrong. To continue to deny saying what is clearly visible in your text, even after having it requoted, makes your opinions carry less weight than a small bag of beignets. I'm assuming you know what those are.

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Son, when you end up being BBQ'ed on a spit in the fiery pits of Hell for all eternity, it's going to give a whole new spin to the term "French Roast". Take it from the highest-selling comic book author of all time, Jack Chick:

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That spit goes in thru the dunghole and out thru mouth, if I'm not mistaken. They may need to call in an expert to figure out which one is which on you.

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Postby S2M » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:03 pm

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Postby Don » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:57 pm

"The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out."

How did this become construed as Parfait telling Ginger to get the fuck out?

It's obviously stating that in science, if no evidence is provided then that line of inquiry has to be dropped or gotten rid of, ie; get the fuck out. Funny how some people decided to selectively misinterpret that one comment to villify Kermit.

Some remedial reading comprehension courses are in need here. Even I, with my limited education understood the example being given within the post quoted above.
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Postby Ligzig » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:07 pm

artist4perry wrote:Your all welcome to agree with Parfait on this one. I still say I disagree, empirical evidence my butt. Scientists were the ones who said the world was flat, so much for never being wrong. The bible has always maintained in the old testament the roundness of the earth. I am not trying to convert any of you hard core atheists. Your already convinced in your mind nothing else can exist except for what your told. Scientists also used to think ulcers were brought about by worry, they then learned they are caused by bacteria. Scientists used to bleed people to make them well, killed a few of them in the process. But they never make mistakes I get it, and I should bow to the god of Science and worship its perfect self and never question the science behind it. There is science to back up creation too, but you won't listen or care. I will continue to live my life my way, love all you guys in spite, and take my chances. If I am wrong I am dead like Rover all over and this brief life is all I have, my belief will not harm a soul. If I am right I have a great afterlife waiting. It's all good gentlemen. But I will not deny my God for all the posturing of science and atheists. You don't know all there is to know, and there are things your science cannot answer. This world is perfect in its form and symbiotic nature. What a paradise it is, it is beautiful. I love and closely study every blade of grass and animal I can. I am fascinated how every thing works. I believe in science, but not that it is perfect.


Wow, where to begin...

There is no science to back up creationists claims. None, period. You will not find any credible source that validates anything in the bible. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm not trying to deny your beliefs. My problem stems from the fact that you, and others like you, want to challenge science, without providing ANY proof to back up your own claims. You can't sit back and point fingers at us, when it is you making the ridiculous claims. The burden of proof is on YOU, to prove your sky daddy exists, or that the fairies exist, or the unicorns, or flying testicle monsters. Not us as atheists or scientists.

Your already convinced in your mind nothing else can exist except for what your told.


Simply not true. This is absolutely hysterical coming from a Christian. You listen to everything your preacher, bible, parents, or whoever indoctrinated you, without asking for any proof or validation. God simply created the earth, man, and the universe and that was that. No proof needed. It simply is, because God said so.

let me ask you this....how is it that you know anything about the modern world of today? How is it that you enjoy the technology and healthy living of today? about space? The universe? Medicine? Was it religion that brought you this?

Of course it wasn't religion, it was science. Scientists don't just write things in text books and ship them out to be taught at schools and universities. It doesn't work that way.

Science does admit its own mistakes and has the ability to look at things objectively, and that's important. We are the ones with the open minds trying to understand, and that we stand on the shoulders of great minds before us that we can continue to make progress as a species. On the other hand, religion teaches us nothing, and kept us in the dark for thousands of years. There is nothing ignorant or closed minded about asking for proof or validation. If you cannot provide proof, and instead want to stomp your feet, huff and puff and throw a fit because you feel like we're being big meanies for calling you out, then I suggest you stay out of discussions such as this one or grow thicker skin.

empirical evidence my butt


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical

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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:25 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:That spit goes in thru the dunghole and out thru mouth, if I'm not mistaken. They may need to call in an expert to figure out which one is which on you.

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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:29 pm

The crap being spewed in this thread is exactly why I rarely get involved in these evolution/creation debates anymore. The Christian is belittled and told how stupid they are. I will say that Ginger has been much more measured and respectful in her responses than the folks on the other side. Grow up, people.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:33 pm

BTW...Below is the scientific definition of the word "theory". Unfortunately for you who believe solely in evolution as your god, it does leave room for it to not be 100% fact...

The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:34 pm

Don wrote:
"The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out."

How did this become construed as Parfait telling Ginger to get the fuck out?

It's obviously stating that in science, if no evidence is provided then that line of inquiry has to be dropped or gotten rid of, ie; get the fuck out. Funny how some people decided to selectively misinterpret that one comment to villify Kermit.

Some remedial reading comprehension courses are in need here. Even I, with my limited education understood the example being given within the post quoted above.


Come on, Don...By quoting that, he was obviously inferring its meaning upon Ginger. "Remedial comprehension courses" don't teach you context. You might want to take something above a grade-level comprehension course. Get with the program.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:45 pm

conversationpc wrote:The crap being spewed in this thread is exactly why I rarely get involved in these evolution/creation debates anymore. The Christian is belittled and told how stupid they are. I will say that Ginger has been much more measured and respectful in her responses than the folks on the other side. Grow up, people.




Would you expect anything less from Parfait?! Punk ass kid thinks that HE KNOWS IT ALL. All he talks about is scientists this and scientists that. I wish scientists would teach him about RESPECT and once and for all teach him about the difference between FACT & THEORY.

Ligzig,
No one is putting down the scientists. We have many great things that make our lives easier , thanks to them. Whether it's medicine , technology or anything that has improved our lives , it's thanks to the scientists.
But to accept any and every little THEORY that a scientist writes about as fact without questioning it , makes you as "bad" as religious people following their beliefs without any questinos asked.

The big difference here is tho , religious people say " I believe in God , you go ahead and believe I'm your theory or fact that we come from monkeys , I believe you when you PROVE it to me that there is no God ".
But you and PeePee insist that " you guys are morons. It's our way or the highway. If the scientists said there's no God , there is no God. So youre a dumbass if you believe in God , cause my scientists say he don't exist. "

You're not gonna change eachothers mind. But try to be somewhat respectful about other peoples beliefs. Since your theories aren't actual FACTS , you have NO rights to put people down for their beliefs. You can question them but after all it's what a person believes in and their rightfully entitled to do so.


Parfait ,
You forgot to mention the "bubbly" feeling , combined with that warm and fuzzy feeling , everytime you "win" ;)
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:48 pm

Behshad wrote:But you and PeePee insist that " you guys are morons. It's our way or the highway. If the scientists said there's no God , there is no God. So youre a dumbass if you believe in God , cause my scientists say he don't exist. "


To quote our English friends "That's what I'm on about". The disrespect shown towards Ginger is ample evidence. Saying things like "Jesus Fucking Christ!", etc., when they know Ginger and others here are Christians, is the utmost disrespect.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:17 pm

Don wrote:
"The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out."

How did this become construed as Parfait telling Ginger to get the fuck out?

It's obviously stating that in science, if no evidence is provided then that line of inquiry has to be dropped or gotten rid of, ie; get the fuck out. Funny how some people decided to selectively misinterpret that one comment to villify Kermit.

Some remedial reading comprehension courses are in need here. Even I, with my limited education understood the example being given within the post quoted above.


It can be seen as an implied conclusion. (e.g., "...therefore, if you (Ginger) can't provide the evidence, then you (Ginger) should..."). It's a passive-aggressive communication technique. If I were the author of the statement and insult was non-intentional, I would have quickly apologized for the misunderstanding. But to simply deny saying that without further explanation, especially without concern over possible hurt feelings, comes off like another mind-f***. That's my theory, anyway.

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conversationpc wrote:Come on, Don...By quoting that, he was obviously inferring its meaning upon Ginger. "Remedial comprehension courses" don't teach you context. You might want to take something above a grade-level comprehension course. Get with the program.


Oops, you made the point first... I concur then. :)
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:49 pm

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Holy crap! Rip with the mega-throwdown! Good work.

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conversationpc wrote:The disrespect shown towards Ginger is ample evidence. Saying things like "Jesus Fucking Christ!", etc., when they know Ginger and others here are Christians, is the utmost disrespect.


I caught that too, and it's definite further evidence that the disrespect is intentional. I'm seeing a Sadistic bent meted out with passive aggression. In other words, some people just like to yank people's chain. Actually, so do I come to think of it -- just without malice. The give and take is fun as long as nobody really gets hurt.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:52 pm

Ligzig wrote:Scientists don't just write things in text books and ship them out to be taught at schools and universities. It doesn't work that way.

Science does admit its own mistakes and has the ability to look at things objectively, and that's important.



Thank you for this. Furthers the argument that the Global Warming movement has little to do with science.
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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:36 am

parfait wrote:
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parfait wrote:I don't know it all.


Your posts and personality around here say different Sir. :lol:


:lol:

He is gonna make one helluva Urologist :)


Beshad. If you obviously got nothing to provide to the argument on either side, then there's no point in just being so god damn random.

And It's obvious that you don't got any more left, Ginger. Whatever points you've had, has been lost in false "facts" and ad hominem arguments. I asked for facts that God created this earth. You said you had them, but didn't bother showing them to me. You haven't answered one single of my questions to you, but instead repeatedly told me that I'm close minded. I never told you to fuck yourself either - it was a explanation for how science works. Jesus, I already told you that!

Anyhow: I won.



Did you call me Ginger?
My name is Gerene, Gerry-Lynn, Moon Beam or Moonie please.
I know you've been around here long enough to not confuse the two of us.
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Postby SF-Dano » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:58 am

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Behshad wrote:But you and PeePee insist that " you guys are morons. It's our way or the highway. If the scientists said there's no God , there is no God. So youre a dumbass if you believe in God , cause my scientists say he don't exist. "


To quote our English friends "That's what I'm on about". The disrespect shown towards Ginger is ample evidence. Saying things like "Jesus Fucking Christ!", etc., when they know Ginger and others here are Christians, is the utmost disrespect.


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Postby Don » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:36 am

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"The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out."

How did this become construed as Parfait telling Ginger to get the fuck out?

It's obviously stating that in science, if no evidence is provided then that line of inquiry has to be dropped or gotten rid of, ie; get the fuck out. Funny how some people decided to selectively misinterpret that one comment to villify Kermit.

Some remedial reading comprehension courses are in need here. Even I, with my limited education understood the example being given within the post quoted above.


It can be seen as an implied conclusion. (e.g., "...therefore, if you (Ginger) can't provide the evidence, then you (Ginger) should..."). It's a passive-aggressive communication technique. If I were the author of the statement and insult was non-intentional, I would have quickly apologized for the misunderstanding. But to simply deny saying that without further explanation, especially without concern over possible hurt feelings, comes off like another mind-f***. That's my theory, anyway.

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conversationpc wrote:Come on, Don...By quoting that, he was obviously inferring its meaning upon Ginger. "Remedial comprehension courses" don't teach you context. You might want to take something above a grade-level comprehension course. Get with the program.


Oops, you made the point first... I concur then. :)


Blah, blah, blah..Admit it, you guys just don't like Kermit. :lol: The whole maiden in distress thing is what really directed you to your conclusions about what Parfait was implying in his response.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:37 am

Don wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Don wrote:
"The amount of hypothesis that don't make it into theories are most likely in the millions, because in science; if you can't provide the evidence, then get the fuck out."

How did this become construed as Parfait telling Ginger to get the fuck out?

It's obviously stating that in science, if no evidence is provided then that line of inquiry has to be dropped or gotten rid of, ie; get the fuck out. Funny how some people decided to selectively misinterpret that one comment to villify Kermit.

Some remedial reading comprehension courses are in need here. Even I, with my limited education understood the example being given within the post quoted above.


It can be seen as an implied conclusion. (e.g., "...therefore, if you (Ginger) can't provide the evidence, then you (Ginger) should..."). It's a passive-aggressive communication technique. If I were the author of the statement and insult was non-intentional, I would have quickly apologized for the misunderstanding. But to simply deny saying that without further explanation, especially without concern over possible hurt feelings, comes off like another mind-f***. That's my theory, anyway.

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conversationpc wrote:Come on, Don...By quoting that, he was obviously inferring its meaning upon Ginger. "Remedial comprehension courses" don't teach you context. You might want to take something above a grade-level comprehension course. Get with the program.


Oops, you made the point first... I concur then. :)


Blah, blah, blah..Admit it, you guys just don't like Kermit. :lol:


We love Kermit,,, we hate Igor :P
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Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:42 am

Behshad wrote:Ligzig,
No one is putting down the scientists.


Go back a page and read some of Artist4perry comments in regards to science and scientists in general.

We have many great things that make our lives easier , thanks to them. Whether it's medicine , technology or anything that has improved our lives , it's thanks to the scientists.


Yes, it's great isn't it? Thank God for science. :lol:

But to accept any and every little THEORY that a scientist writes about as fact without questioning it , makes you as "bad" as religious people following their beliefs without any questinos asked.


Uh...nobody is doing that? I look at the facts, which is something science can provide plenty of, and come to my own conclusions based on those facts. Every theory and fact in science has to undergo peer review. Nobody can just write anything and present it to the public as fact.

"Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge." - Carl Sagan

Objectivity, and questioning everything is something that any intelligent person would understand, scientist or not.

The big difference here is tho , religious people say " I believe in God , you go ahead and believe I'm your theory or fact that we come from monkeys , I believe you when you PROVE it to me that there is no God ".
But you and PeePee insist that " you guys are morons. It's our way or the highway. If the scientists said there's no God , there is no God. So youre a dumbass if you believe in God , cause my scientists say he don't exist. "


1. The burden of proof is not on me, it's on the one making the claim that God or any other supernatural being exists.
2. We are not saying that at all. Science is not being brainwashed or indoctrinated. It's a way of thinking and understanding. Simple as that. I believe in God because I chose not to as an individual based on the facts (or lack thereof) presented to me.

I'm not trying to belittle anybody, but as I said earlier, if you're going to challenge science or atheism, and you decide to use religion as your weapon of choice, you need to provide facts. So far, I have seen nothing.

“There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?” - Richard Dawkins

You're not gonna change eachothers mind. But try to be somewhat respectful about other peoples beliefs. Since your theories aren't actual FACTS , you have NO rights to put people down for their beliefs. You can question them but after all it's what a person believes in and their rightfully entitled to do so.


These "Theories" are facts. If you had done any research or even a simple paragraph of reading into the subject, you would know that. They are entitled to their own beliefs, but perhaps you can tell the religious folks to also stop spewing bullshit all over science as if science is a religion. There is no faith involved in science. I'm only defending against the absolute ignorance shown here in this thread towards science.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:50 am

No one has to prove to YOU what they believe in, simply because YOU can not prove what YOU actually believe in it.
Ginger says she believes in God. Thats her right. Thats her belief. if YOU are the one questioning it, then YOU should bring the FACT that PROVES that what she believes in doesnt exist. Until then, shut up and put up ! She doesnt tell YOU that YOU should believe in her God. She doesnt have to prove shit to you. Simple as that :)
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Postby Ligzig » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:53 am

Behshad wrote:No one has to prove to YOU what they believe in, simply because YOU can not prove what YOU actually believe in it.
Ginger says she believes in God. Thats her right. Thats her belief. if YOU are the one questioning it, then YOU should bring the FACT that PROVES that what she believes in doesnt exist. Until then, shut up and put up ! She doesnt tell YOU that YOU should believe in her God. She doesnt have to prove shit to you. Simple as that :)


There are invisible ninja monkeys living in your closet. Just because you cannot disprove of them, does not mean they don't exist.

Good luck with that one.
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