Pet peeves about Journey music

[Ligzig]

I haven't listened to Journey music in a long time, but I had seen a clip of "Patiently" being played and I remembered a line in that song that goes..

"In the shadow of love
Time goes by leaving me helpless
Just to reach and try
To live my life
These are my reasons"

It always bothered me why the line at the end didn't go "These are my reasons why...." if only to add that poetic touch and give it a rhyme. Just kind of bothers me and I expect a little more before the chorus starts.


Is there any lyric, music or song related to Journey that you have a pet peeve about?

[Seven Wishes2]

I like it the way it's written and believe the phrasing would change detrimentally with the addition of the extra lyric.

Now, I have a problem, lyrically, with pretty much all of "Evolution" as well as "Castles Burning" and "Back Talk".

[ebake02]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

[Rick]

I haven't listened to Journey music in a long time, but I had seen a clip of "Patiently" being played and I remembered a line in that song that goes..

"In the shadow of love
Time goes by leaving me helpless
Just to reach and try
To live my life
These are my reasons"

It always bothered me why the line at the end didn't go "These are my reasons why...." if only to add that poetic touch and give it a rhyme. Just kind of bothers me and I expect a little more before the chorus starts.


Is there any lyric, music or song related to Journey that you have a pet peeve about?

"Homemade Love" Why? This whole song irks the shit out of me.

Oh, oo.
Oo, baby.
I love cookin' with honey.
I love to make you feel funny.
I love the way you do.
I want, I want it with you, yeah.
Homemade love, jelly roll love.
Homemade love.


I need a jelly roll sweetie.
Now, spread it oh spread it on me, babe.
Feels so good, on the top.
Spread it around, baby, till I drop ya'.
Homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.


Oh, baby, oh baby,
I know you love it.
Homemade love, oh, baby.
I know you love it.
So love it.


Oh, homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.
Homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.
Oh, baby, baby, baby
Homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.


Oo, smokin',
Oo, baby, you're burnin'
Oo, baby, it's boilin', ah.

[Melissa]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline.

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

[Melissa]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

[ebake02]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline.

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion, they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans. I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

[Don]

They have gotten new fans with Arnel too. The difference being these fans carry rosary beads and like drinking nothing stronger than Aquafina.

Get them some bumble bee gear and the 'New' Journey could be Stryper 2.0

[ebake02]

They have gotten new fans with Arnel too. The difference being these fans carry rosary beads and like drinking nothing stronger than Aquafina.

Get them some bumble bee gear and the 'New' Journey could be Stryper 2.0

That's what bugs me, they're selling out to the Kool-Aid drinking crowd. That's the wrong group of fans, they change their mind as often as they change their clothes. If the new album isn't exactly the same as Revelation then they can kiss these fans goodbye.

[Melissa]

They have gotten new fans with Arnel too. The difference being these fans carry rosary beads and like drinking nothing stronger than Aquafina.

Get them some bumble bee gear and the 'New' Journey could be Stryper 2.0

[Deb]

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Agreed! Would love to have heard more along this line................. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

[Rick]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

[StevePerryHair]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline.

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion, they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans. I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

Hey, I was at that venue that year too....Darien Lake? A very cold night for Florida girls! That was a great tour!

[ebake02]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline.

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion, they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans. I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

Hey, I was at that venue that year too....Darien Lake? A very cold night for Florida girls! That was a great tour!

It was Darien Lake, I was in the 15th row on the right side of the stage!! I froze my tail off but it was worth it, what a great show!!!!

[StevePerryHair]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline.

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion, they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans. I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

Hey, I was at that venue that year too....Darien Lake? A very cold night for Florida girls! That was a great tour!

It was Darien Lake, I was in the 15th row on the right side of the stage!! I froze my tail off but it was worth it, what a great show!!!!

We did ILAA, so we had the second row maybe? I can't remember! Maybe Melissa remembers! Seems like forever ago now! It was fun though! We wanted to see them again with JSS and ILAA, since we were far away in Tampa, and Buffalo was the cheapest ILAA and flight we could find. I grew up in Erie, so Buffalo was a place I'm familiar with too!

[Saint John]

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion

Sure seems to have worked out, though.

they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans.

And fit them all in a phone booth. There would have been a net mass exodus and baritone Journey would have flopped.

I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

Saw that tour, too, and the new wore off really fast. I think the fact the shows were finally almost completely live gave the lineup a huge initial lift, but it soon became apparent it wasn't a sustainable lineup. The music, mainly the back catalog, needs a soaring tenor and Soto couldn't provide that. You'll realize why Arnel was picked when you hear the new stuff. If it's as heavy as I've been told, I think they may commercially lose a lot of the bubble gum crowd. In my mind, I'm hearing Europe's heavier songs, but with more polished hooks and melodies, when I try and "hear" what I have been told. Should be interesting. 1 ballad and 1 that is semi-ballad-like. 2 screamers and the rest rockers.

[ebake02]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline.

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion, they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans. I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

Hey, I was at that venue that year too....Darien Lake? A very cold night for Florida girls! That was a great tour!

It was Darien Lake, I was in the 15th row on the right side of the stage!! I froze my tail off but it was worth it, what a great show!!!!

We did ILAA, so we had the second row maybe? I can't remember! Maybe Melissa remembers! Seems like forever ago now! It was fun though! We wanted to see them again with JSS and ILAA, since we were far away in Tampa, and Buffalo was the cheapest ILAA and flight we could find. I grew up in Erie, so Buffalo was a place I'm familiar with too!

I was going to college in Erie at the time and I still remember that long long drive up I-90 and back.

[Melissa]

But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Agreed! Would love to have heard more along this line................. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

Exactly Deb! That one popped up on my ipod while I was running not too long ago, great running song!

[StevePerryHair]

The total lack of anything heavy. I like the heavier side of Journey and I just haven't saw much of that in their last few albums. I'd like to see some heavy stuff along the same vein as Hardline. I liked Neal's work on the album.

Loved Hardline. But I think Journey's chance at doing anything heavy was lost when they dumped JSS. HE would have been the most awesome way they could have transitioned themselves that direction while still keeping true to Journey, given Journey's great influence on him as a singer. But now, hearing anything 'heavy' from them I doubt will ever happen. I'll be happy to eat my words if their next album proves me wrong though, and isn't the sugar-fest that is Revelation.

Dumping JSS was a stupid idea in my opinion, they could have opened a door to a whole new group of fans. I saw them in Buffalo with Def Leppard and JSS blew everybody out of the water hands down.

Hey, I was at that venue that year too....Darien Lake? A very cold night for Florida girls! That was a great tour!

It was Darien Lake, I was in the 15th row on the right side of the stage!! I froze my tail off but it was worth it, what a !!!!

We did ILAA, so we had the second row maybe? I can't remember! Maybe Melissa remembers! Seems like forever ago now! It was fun though! We wanted to see them again with JSS and ILAA, since we were far away in Tampa, and Buffalo was the cheapest ILAA and flight we could find. I grew up in Erie, so Buffalo was a place I'm familiar with too!

I was going to college in Erie at the time and I still remember that long long drive up I-90 and back.

Only an 1 1/2 hours! what college? I'm a Gannon graduate...but many years before you were in college!

[Melissa]

We did ILAA, so we had the second row maybe? I can't remember! Maybe Melissa remembers! Seems like forever ago now! It was fun though! We wanted to see them again with JSS and ILAA, since we were far away in Tampa, and Buffalo was the cheapest ILAA and flight we could find. I grew up in Erie, so Buffalo was a place I'm familiar with too!

I don't remember exactly where , but close, and it was fun! Seeing Niagra Falls the next day was great too!

[Melissa]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

[KDOUBLEU]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

[brandonx76]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

[Rick]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

[StevePerryHair]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

What IS jelly roll love?

[Melissa]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

What IS jelly roll love?

And why does it have to be HOT?

[Saint John]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

What IS jelly roll love?

Sounds like one of my romps with a fat broad. One chick was so fucking big I that tried to hang myself with her belt in the morning, but I would have needed about a 6 story building to make it work.

[StevePerryHair]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

What IS jelly roll love?

And why does it have to be HOT?

Now I'm picturing hot and ready donuts!!!

[Rick]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

What IS jelly roll love?

Don't know, but it sounds sticky.

[Rick]

Rick you are so right, those lyrics ----->

They're almost disturbing.

Very! I mean, jelly roll?? And it's in there SIX times!

Drugs it had to be the drugs...

Yeah the lyrics on that are terrible, but it is a great tune...

I agree with this. I used to like the song until I realized he was saying "Hot jelly roll love". I wasn't able to listen to it afterwards.

What IS jelly roll love?

Sounds like one of my romps with a fat broad. One chick was so fucking big I that tried to hang myself with her belt in the morning, but I would have needed about a 6 story building to make it work.

LMAO!!!