Too stupid to breathe

[S2M]

Agreed. Chrisitanity does not teach nor condone superiority. The only one I can think of that promotes such is Islam.

Really? So when christians say that unless you believe..you are going to Hell.

Believers go to Heaven
Non-believers go to Hell
Going to Heaven is superior to going Hell

Therefore, Believers are superior to non-believers

A better fit there is prefereable, not superior. God would consider a saved believer superior, because that person contains his spirit, but the believer shouldn't see themselves as superior. More fortunate, if anything. We all know it doesn't always work that way, but hey... at least the intent is there.

Hell is probably the worst concept to be introduced to humans, and is another reason I can no longer believe. Always accepted it just as is, but once the faith started crumbling, Hell went tumbling into the pit with it. Take somebody who lives a simple, honest life, and devotes it to the betterment of other people. That person has a chance to get 'saved' and kindly doesn't accept. So they deserve eternal torment and damnation? Never ending? It's the reason so many churches go really light on the Hell stuff these days. I was joking from someone who works at a Methodist church the other day, when he was talking about having to send collection notices to some music students who weren't paying their dues. I told him I'd write him some which said, "You're not only stealing from the Music Program, you're stealing from Jesus and your going to Hell!" He started cracking up and said, "Nooooooooooo, no no no.... We don't teach that stuff! We'd run everybody off!" LOL!

PLease don't get wrapped up in a word, Rip. Preferable, for all intents and purposes, means the same as superior. Why would something inferior be preferable? People prefer things that are better, for the most part. Would you rather travel to see Dokken, or Night Ranger? My guess is that you would prefer to go see Dokken because you find them better than NR....

[artist4perry]

This thread is ridiculous. We can't change each other's minds regarding music, and you stupid shits are trying to do so with religion.


I see it like this. We have the far right Bible Thumpers in one corner, DaveCPC, Rip ....

and some wacked out anti God nuts, S2M, Parfait

Some Middle of the Roaders, people who believe, but don't push it on others, Lynn, Melissa, Natalie....

and comedic intrusionaries...Dan.

What gets me is S2M trying to tell people who find comfort in believing in God that they are full of shit. Stop right there. If Natalie for instance, believes God exists, and it makes her comfortable in doing so, then religion works for her, does it not? S2M may think she is full of shit, but if she believes it, even if it doesn't exist, it does. Got that? Then we have Rip and Dave putting on their Stryper shirts and going to War for the Lord, even when he didn't ask them to. That is just as annoying as what S2M and P do. Meanwhile people who are in the centre, and don't push either way, look the most sane.

For someone to actually participate in this thread, and take it to heart...spending hours on either extreme side, is moronic. Are you telling me religion is worth that? Hell no it isn't. religion starts wars, and kills people. Respect for religion does just the opposite. Tolerance is the best policy yet, and frankly, neither of you extreme fuckers have shown any tolerance in this thread.

I pat myself on the back, for staying the Hell out of this thread. It's the best decision I have ever made in the history of my time on this site. The only thing worse than religion, is arguing it.

Arguing religion or atheism to a point where it gets ugly is useless. I chose not to debate and got told I was stupid and fat. The fat part I already know............... But I won't be called stupid by someone because I have faith. I did not bring it up, Parfait started making fun of my faith. So thus this whole war began. And I really regret even responding to his hatefulness. I should know he is here to bait and start a war. I am sorry for my part in it at all.

Give me a fucking break. You're playing the victim card like a champ. It all started when I said:

I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.

Then you went on to call me (rather unchristian) words, like screw you, kiss my grits, a monkey, dufus, dumbass and a childish narcissistic, then continued to yap about your evidence, but denied to show any of it, since we wouldn't listen - after I'd specifically said I would.

So don't try to turn this something it isn't. What it's really about is both your and Beshad's completely lack of logic and reason, as well as knowledge of physics and biology 101. I stated that one should believe what one wants - couldn't care less. You make it out to be that I'm harassing you because of your faith, which is ridiculous. You chose to debate. I did not make fun of your faith - I beat down every "scientific" argument you had going for your faith however. So just wipe away the crocodile tears, and lube up, will you.

I did not choose to debate, I stated some problems I had with darwinism and evolution. Name me one time I called you a DA? I never use that word...........ever. So try again. The other times I was kidding till you got personal. And you are narcissistic...........how often do you call yourself perfect, the winner, and on and on about yourself? So that is just stating the facts jack.

I did state that I liked science after the sexist thing you said about women. You then went after my faith, do I need to quote you again? Then I started playfully teasing you, after that you got ugly. Parfait your a trip..........you really thing too much of yourself. And as for lubing up.............please, what did you win? An argument where I chose not to debate? And why was that? Because you don't listen, you have a tendency to treat people with disrespect, and you gloat when you have no reason to. I don't really care what you think...........

[Behshad]

you two , give it up !

[artist4perry]

Count to 10.............1..............2.................3...................4.............10

For you Beshad...............I will try!

[parfait]

This thread is ridiculous. We can't change each other's minds regarding music, and you stupid shits are trying to do so with religion.


I see it like this. We have the far right Bible Thumpers in one corner, DaveCPC, Rip ....

and some wacked out anti God nuts, S2M, Parfait

Some Middle of the Roaders, people who believe, but don't push it on others, Lynn, Melissa, Natalie....

and comedic intrusionaries...Dan.

What gets me is S2M trying to tell people who find comfort in believing in God that they are full of shit. Stop right there. If Natalie for instance, believes God exists, and it makes her comfortable in doing so, then religion works for her, does it not? S2M may think she is full of shit, but if she believes it, even if it doesn't exist, it does. Got that? Then we have Rip and Dave putting on their Stryper shirts and going to War for the Lord, even when he didn't ask them to. That is just as annoying as what S2M and P do. Meanwhile people who are in the centre, and don't push either way, look the most sane.

For someone to actually participate in this thread, and take it to heart...spending hours on either extreme side, is moronic. Are you telling me religion is worth that? Hell no it isn't. religion starts wars, and kills people. Respect for religion does just the opposite. Tolerance is the best policy yet, and frankly, neither of you extreme fuckers have shown any tolerance in this thread.

I pat myself on the back, for staying the Hell out of this thread. It's the best decision I have ever made in the history of my time on this site. The only thing worse than religion, is arguing it.

Arguing religion or atheism to a point where it gets ugly is useless. I chose not to debate and got told I was stupid and fat. The fat part I already know............... But I won't be called stupid by someone because I have faith. I did not bring it up, Parfait started making fun of my faith. So thus this whole war began. And I really regret even responding to his hatefulness. I should know he is here to bait and start a war. I am sorry for my part in it at all.

Give me a fucking break. You're playing the victim card like a champ. It all started when I said:

I'd trust a catholic priest with my little sister more than I trust a woman yapping about science.

Then you went on to call me (rather unchristian) words, like screw you, kiss my grits, a monkey, dufus, dumbass and a childish narcissistic, then continued to yap about your evidence, but denied to show any of it, since we wouldn't listen - after I'd specifically said I would.

So don't try to turn this something it isn't. What it's really about is both your and Beshad's completely lack of logic and reason, as well as knowledge of physics and biology 101. I stated that one should believe what one wants - couldn't care less. You make it out to be that I'm harassing you because of your faith, which is ridiculous. You chose to debate. I did not make fun of your faith - I beat down every "scientific" argument you had going for your faith however. So just wipe away the crocodile tears, and lube up, will you.

I did not choose to debate, I stated some problems I had with darwinism and evolution. Name me one time I called you a DA? I never use that word...........ever. So try again. The other times I was kidding till you got personal. And you are narcissistic...........how often do you call yourself perfect, the winner, and on and on about yourself? So that is just stating the facts jack.

I did state that I liked science after the sexist thing you said about women. You then went after my faith, do I need to quote you again? Then I started playfully teasing you, after that you got ugly. Parfait your a trip..........you really thing too much of yourself. And as for lubing up.............please, what did you win? An argument where I chose not to debate? And why was that? Because you don't listen, you have a tendency to treat people with disrespect, and you gloat when you have no reason to. I don't really care what you think...........

Oh, poor you. I told you I would love to hear what supposed evidence you had - so I don't listen? It's fun to intellectually destroy a grown woman, a teacher no less, though. Gives me that good, fuzzy feeling I also get after GHB'ing a girl's drink and getting my game on.

[Behshad]

Give it up Gael ! She is done fighting with you. lets move on !

[artist4perry]

Parfait:

Blabla bla blblalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla abla labla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla abla labla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla Im a dirty whore who drinks piss and think using big words make me look smarter,,,, mind you I havent worked a single day in my life to earn my first $1 , but I am good at pretending to be passionate about people's health or at least their urine samples.....blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablalabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla ablablabla bla blablablablabla blabla bla blabla abla.

Who can defy such VAST INTELLIGENCE!

[artist4perry]

O.K. I will be good now.................

[Angel]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

[artist4perry]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

When was that?

[S2M]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

Yeah, god must've been in the shitter that day. Couldn't give her that 'special feeling' that something was wrong....

[artist4perry]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

Yeah, god must've been in the shitter that day. Couldn't give her that 'special feeling' that something was wrong....

She just needed sonar.

[Angel]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

Yeah, god must've been in the shitter that day. Couldn't give her that 'special feeling' that something was wrong....

Why can't you move on? Seriously? How does it hurt you that I believe in God? Nevermind, don't answer that-move to the next subject....

[S2M]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

Yeah, god must've been in the shitter that day. Couldn't give her that 'special feeling' that something was wrong....

Why can't you move on? Seriously? How does it hurt you that I believe in God? Nevermind, don't answer that-move to the next subject....

On a related note, I had this very bad cold one night...coughing, sinuses, diarrhea...etc. I decided to leave my window open that night. When I woke up in the morning my cold was gone. Leaving the window open must've made that cold disappear.

[conversationpc]

It's fun to intellectually destroy a grown woman, a teacher no less, though.

Ah, the sign of an over-confident flame warrior, declaring victory whilst in the throes of defeat.

"Jerk is sarcastic, mean, unforgiving and never misses an opportunity to make a cutting remark. Jerk's repulsive personality quickly alienates other Warriors, and after some initial skirmishing he is usually ostracized. Still, Jerk is very happy to participate in electronic forums because in cyberspace he is free to be himself...without the risk of getting a real-time punch in the mouth."

Gives me that good, fuzzy feeling I also get after GHB'ing a girl's drink and getting my game on.

I hope that's said in jest. Even so, it's not something that should even really be joked about. Sicko.

[parfait]

It's fun to intellectually destroy a grown woman, a teacher no less, though.

Ah, the sign of an over-confident flame warrior, declaring victory whilst in the throes of defeat.

"Jerk is sarcastic, mean, unforgiving and never misses an opportunity to make a cutting remark. Jerk's repulsive personality quickly alienates other Warriors, and after some initial skirmishing he is usually ostracized. Still, Jerk is very happy to participate in electronic forums because in cyberspace he is free to be himself...without the risk of getting a real-time punch in the mouth."

Gives me that good, fuzzy feeling I also get after GHB'ing a girl's drink and getting my game on.

I hope that's said in jest. Even so, it's not something that should even really be joked about. Sicko.

I don't smoke.

[conversationpc]

It's fun to intellectually destroy a grown woman, a teacher no less, though.

Ah, the sign of an over-confident flame warrior, declaring victory whilst in the throes of defeat.

"Jerk is sarcastic, mean, unforgiving and never misses an opportunity to make a cutting remark. Jerk's repulsive personality quickly alienates other Warriors, and after some initial skirmishing he is usually ostracized. Still, Jerk is very happy to participate in electronic forums because in cyberspace he is free to be himself...without the risk of getting a real-time punch in the mouth."

Gives me that good, fuzzy feeling I also get after GHB'ing a girl's drink and getting my game on.

I hope that's said in jest. Even so, it's not something that should even really be joked about. Sicko.

I don't smoke.

I couldn't find one with a pic of a guy with his man unit in his mouth.

[RedWingFan]

Remember that one time when someone posted a vid of a lady texting and falling into a fountain???

Yeah, god must've been in the shitter that day. Couldn't give her that 'special feeling' that something was wrong....

Why can't you move on? Seriously? How does it hurt you that I believe in God? Nevermind, don't answer that-move to the next subject....

Don't worry about it Nat. You won't have to answer for him or anyone else but yourself.

[Behshad]

It's fun to intellectually destroy a grown woman, a teacher no less, though.

Ah, the sign of an over-confident flame warrior, declaring victory whilst in the throes of defeat.

"Jerk is sarcastic, mean, unforgiving and never misses an opportunity to make a cutting remark. Jerk's repulsive personality quickly alienates other Warriors, and after some initial skirmishing he is usually ostracized. Still, Jerk is very happy to participate in electronic forums because in cyberspace he is free to be himself...without the risk of getting a real-time punch in the mouth."

Gives me that good, fuzzy feeling I also get after GHB'ing a girl's drink and getting my game on.

I hope that's said in jest. Even so, it's not something that should even really be joked about. Sicko.

I don't smoke.

I couldn't find one with a pic of a guy with his man unit in his mouth.

[S2M]

OK...let's get back on this religion/god discussion....shall we?

Looking at the scorecards I see...

Agnostics 3 Fanatics 0

I think the Pious have some catching up to do......my suggestion is you had better start chucking up 3s....

So far this is what this discussion has resembled:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6QKiDh4mlc&feature=related

Get that shit outta here!!!!!

[conversationpc]

OK...let's get back on this religion/god discussion....shall we?

Looking at the scorecards I see...

Agnostics 3 Fanatics 0

I think the Pious have some catching up to do......my suggestion is you had better start chucking up 3s....

So far this is what this discussion has resembled:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpbH_QKUyZA

Get that shit outta here!!!!!

What was that I just said about people declaring their own victory...

[Behshad]

Sean ,
Agnostic is pretty much the same as atheist. You as agnostic say you'd believe in god if there was actual evidence. Well guess what if there are clear facts and proof if Gods existence I think most atheists(minus parfait) would also believe.

And your scoreboard only shows what you wanna believe. Just the same way you see scoreboards in sports. In reality the score is still 0-0

[Angel]

OK, S2M and parfait-you win. Congratulations! I hope you enjoy your victory. I'm not sure exactly what you won or why it was so important to win, but you win. Nice job.

[S2M]

Sean ,
Agnostic is pretty much the same as atheist. You as agnostic say you'd believe in god if there was actual evidence. Well guess what if there are clear facts and proof if Gods existence I think most atheists(minus parfait) would also believe.

And your scoreboard only shows what you wanna believe. Just the same way you see scoreboards in sports. In reality the score is still 0-0

In reality, I don't have to try and prove if god exists. All I have to do is rip apart the logic of that the religious use to rationalize that he does exist. Find errors in logic = doesn't exist. Pretty simple really....

[conversationpc]

Let's figure out how something came from nothing. Now THAT would be something.

[artist4perry]

Sean ,
Agnostic is pretty much the same as atheist. You as agnostic say you'd believe in god if there was actual evidence. Well guess what if there are clear facts and proof if Gods existence I think most atheists(minus parfait) would also believe.

And your scoreboard only shows what you wanna believe. Just the same way you see scoreboards in sports. In reality the score is still 0-0

In reality, I don't have to try and prove if god exists. All I have to do is rip apart the logic of that the religious use to rationalize that he does exist. Find errors in logic = doesn't exist. Pretty simple really....

We know you are, but that is what we love about you.................

[Behshad]

Sean ,
Agnostic is pretty much the same as atheist. You as agnostic say you'd believe in god if there was actual evidence. Well guess what if there are clear facts and proof if Gods existence I think most atheists(minus parfait) would also believe.

And your scoreboard only shows what you wanna believe. Just the same way you see scoreboards in sports. In reality the score is still 0-0

In reality, I don't have to try and prove if god exists. All I have to do is rip apart the logic of that the religious use to rationalize that he does exist. Find errors in logic = doesn't exist. Pretty simple really....

Proof ? How about all the living on this planet. or do you have to SEE God to believe it.

You believe in COLD and hot remorseless. You don't actually SEE IT. there's no proof yet you believe that cold and hot exist.

And it's ok if you don't believe. That's YOUR right. But don't label it any different than atheist.

[S2M]

Let's figure out how something came from nothing. Now THAT would be something.

Ask Steve Augeri

[conversationpc]

Let's figure out how something came from nothing. Now THAT would be something.

Ask Steve Augeri

Gotta admit...That was a good one.

[Behshad]

Let's figure out how something came from nothing. Now THAT would be something.

Ask Steve Augeri

Gotta admit...That was a good one.

True dat. Specially coming from an atheist.