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Postby Behshad » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:46 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
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Everett wrote:I guess no one here is gonna buy smackdown vs raw 2011 eh? :oops: 8)

You fucking redneck! :roll: :lol: And SM2... My wife is DYING to get the kinect. She's already pre-purchased it! :shock: :lol: To be honest, the games look pretty shitty for it (minus one of the sports games), but she's pumped about the dancing games. Hey, as long as she's happy... I'M happy! :wink:
So Jim - how does your wife like Kinect? I got it for Christmas - pretty much haven't sat down since! Only thing is - hubby bought me the wrong dance game (I wanted Dance Central because at least I know some of the songs on it). It came with some adventure game, which got boring pretty quick. But I've ordered Dance Central, the Zumba workout thingy and the Motion Sports games, should be here any day. I'm addicted! (and sore :lol: )
We got the kids Kinect and I LOVE it!! Dance central is so much fun! I think you'll love it! I didn't know there was a zumba! I think that would be fun! Dance central is great excersize!! What amazing technology!
It really is amazing! My husband bought the Dance Masters game - it's a bit too 'clubby' (and way too complicated for me right now!) But there is a demo of Dance Central on the other game I got - I've already 5-starred Poker Face on 'medium' in 2 days (if we never hear that song again I'll be happy :lol: ). The Zumba one looks like a lot of fun - I love Latin music and dancing and always wanted to try a Zumba class - now I can embarass myself in the comfort of my own home :lol:


That's what I was thinking! I've always wanted to try zumba, but I'd much rather do it at home where no one can see me!!! :lol: :lol:



Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:49 am

Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Everett wrote:I guess no one here is gonna buy smackdown vs raw 2011 eh? :oops: 8)

You fucking redneck! :roll: :lol: And SM2... My wife is DYING to get the kinect. She's already pre-purchased it! :shock: :lol: To be honest, the games look pretty shitty for it (minus one of the sports games), but she's pumped about the dancing games. Hey, as long as she's happy... I'M happy! :wink:
So Jim - how does your wife like Kinect? I got it for Christmas - pretty much haven't sat down since! Only thing is - hubby bought me the wrong dance game (I wanted Dance Central because at least I know some of the songs on it). It came with some adventure game, which got boring pretty quick. But I've ordered Dance Central, the Zumba workout thingy and the Motion Sports games, should be here any day. I'm addicted! (and sore :lol: )
We got the kids Kinect and I LOVE it!! Dance central is so much fun! I think you'll love it! I didn't know there was a zumba! I think that would be fun! Dance central is great excersize!! What amazing technology!
It really is amazing! My husband bought the Dance Masters game - it's a bit too 'clubby' (and way too complicated for me right now!) But there is a demo of Dance Central on the other game I got - I've already 5-starred Poker Face on 'medium' in 2 days (if we never hear that song again I'll be happy :lol: ). The Zumba one looks like a lot of fun - I love Latin music and dancing and always wanted to try a Zumba class - now I can embarass myself in the comfort of my own home :lol:


That's what I was thinking! I've always wanted to try zumba, but I'd much rather do it at home where no one can see me!!! :lol: :lol:



Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )
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Postby Behshad » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:51 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Everett wrote:I guess no one here is gonna buy smackdown vs raw 2011 eh? :oops: 8)

You fucking redneck! :roll: :lol: And SM2... My wife is DYING to get the kinect. She's already pre-purchased it! :shock: :lol: To be honest, the games look pretty shitty for it (minus one of the sports games), but she's pumped about the dancing games. Hey, as long as she's happy... I'M happy! :wink:
So Jim - how does your wife like Kinect? I got it for Christmas - pretty much haven't sat down since! Only thing is - hubby bought me the wrong dance game (I wanted Dance Central because at least I know some of the songs on it). It came with some adventure game, which got boring pretty quick. But I've ordered Dance Central, the Zumba workout thingy and the Motion Sports games, should be here any day. I'm addicted! (and sore :lol: )
We got the kids Kinect and I LOVE it!! Dance central is so much fun! I think you'll love it! I didn't know there was a zumba! I think that would be fun! Dance central is great excersize!! What amazing technology!
It really is amazing! My husband bought the Dance Masters game - it's a bit too 'clubby' (and way too complicated for me right now!) But there is a demo of Dance Central on the other game I got - I've already 5-starred Poker Face on 'medium' in 2 days (if we never hear that song again I'll be happy :lol: ). The Zumba one looks like a lot of fun - I love Latin music and dancing and always wanted to try a Zumba class - now I can embarass myself in the comfort of my own home :lol:


That's what I was thinking! I've always wanted to try zumba, but I'd much rather do it at home where no one can see me!!! :lol: :lol:



Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )


Yep. Everett and his kinect :


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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:52 am

Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Triple S wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Everett wrote:I guess no one here is gonna buy smackdown vs raw 2011 eh? :oops: 8)

You fucking redneck! :roll: :lol: And SM2... My wife is DYING to get the kinect. She's already pre-purchased it! :shock: :lol: To be honest, the games look pretty shitty for it (minus one of the sports games), but she's pumped about the dancing games. Hey, as long as she's happy... I'M happy! :wink:
So Jim - how does your wife like Kinect? I got it for Christmas - pretty much haven't sat down since! Only thing is - hubby bought me the wrong dance game (I wanted Dance Central because at least I know some of the songs on it). It came with some adventure game, which got boring pretty quick. But I've ordered Dance Central, the Zumba workout thingy and the Motion Sports games, should be here any day. I'm addicted! (and sore :lol: )
We got the kids Kinect and I LOVE it!! Dance central is so much fun! I think you'll love it! I didn't know there was a zumba! I think that would be fun! Dance central is great excersize!! What amazing technology!
It really is amazing! My husband bought the Dance Masters game - it's a bit too 'clubby' (and way too complicated for me right now!) But there is a demo of Dance Central on the other game I got - I've already 5-starred Poker Face on 'medium' in 2 days (if we never hear that song again I'll be happy :lol: ). The Zumba one looks like a lot of fun - I love Latin music and dancing and always wanted to try a Zumba class - now I can embarass myself in the comfort of my own home :lol:


That's what I was thinking! I've always wanted to try zumba, but I'd much rather do it at home where no one can see me!!! :lol: :lol:



Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )


Yep. Everett and his kinect :


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Postby Everett » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:41 am

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:27 am

G.I.Jim wrote:She LOVES the Kinect! She's been playing it several times per week. She pretty much just plays Dance Central. Every time someone comes over now, they bust out the Dance Central, but I'm not a fan. I'm glad she's loving it though, and that's all that counts. :D


What the hell is Kinect? It's kind of like Wii Motion Plus, right?
I have one dance game for Wii, and just got the Cardio Dance game from my sis but I haven't tried it yet.
That dancing stuff is a hell of a workout. I love it! I wish I knew someone with Xbox... this Dance Central thing sounds fun!
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Postby G.I.Jim » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:56 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:She LOVES the Kinect! She's been playing it several times per week. She pretty much just plays Dance Central. Every time someone comes over now, they bust out the Dance Central, but I'm not a fan. I'm glad she's loving it though, and that's all that counts. :D


What the hell is Kinect? It's kind of like Wii Motion Plus, right?
I have one dance game for Wii, and just got the Cardio Dance game from my sis but I haven't tried it yet.
That dancing stuff is a hell of a workout. I love it! I wish I knew someone with Xbox... this Dance Central thing sounds fun!


No, it's not like the Wii. There is no controller other than your body. It has face and voice recognition and knows you from anyone else in the room. I don't really care at all about any of the games out for it yet, but it is amazing technology. :D
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Postby brandonx76 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:29 am

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:53 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:She LOVES the Kinect! She's been playing it several times per week. She pretty much just plays Dance Central. Every time someone comes over now, they bust out the Dance Central, but I'm not a fan. I'm glad she's loving it though, and that's all that counts. :D


What the hell is Kinect? It's kind of like Wii Motion Plus, right?
I have one dance game for Wii, and just got the Cardio Dance game from my sis but I haven't tried it yet.
That dancing stuff is a hell of a workout. I love it! I wish I knew someone with Xbox... this Dance Central thing sounds fun!


No, it's not like the Wii. There is no controller other than your body. It has face and voice recognition and knows you from anyone else in the room. I don't really care at all about any of the games out for it yet, but it is amazing technology. :D


Amazing... but creepy! Lol.... I don't need my video game thing recognizing me. Lol. Wii motion is enough I think. Hehehehe.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:13 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:She LOVES the Kinect! She's been playing it several times per week. She pretty much just plays Dance Central. Every time someone comes over now, they bust out the Dance Central, but I'm not a fan. I'm glad she's loving it though, and that's all that counts. :D


What the hell is Kinect? It's kind of like Wii Motion Plus, right?
I have one dance game for Wii, and just got the Cardio Dance game from my sis but I haven't tried it yet.
That dancing stuff is a hell of a workout. I love it! I wish I knew someone with Xbox... this Dance Central thing sounds fun!


No, it's not like the Wii. There is no controller other than your body. It has face and voice recognition and knows you from anyone else in the room. I don't really care at all about any of the games out for it yet, but it is amazing technology. :D




Love the Kinect technology. I was very skeptical about Playstation Move. That's also damn impressive and really makes WiiMote look pretty "cheap". The accuracy is top notch. Best $50 I ever spent. Specially with the demos you can download to try it out.
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Postby Triple S » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:08 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:She LOVES the Kinect! She's been playing it several times per week. She pretty much just plays Dance Central. Every time someone comes over now, they bust out the Dance Central, but I'm not a fan. I'm glad she's loving it though, and that's all that counts. :D


What the hell is Kinect? It's kind of like Wii Motion Plus, right?
I have one dance game for Wii, and just got the Cardio Dance game from my sis but I haven't tried it yet.
That dancing stuff is a hell of a workout. I love it! I wish I knew someone with Xbox... this Dance Central thing sounds fun!


No, it's not like the Wii. There is no controller other than your body. It has face and voice recognition and knows you from anyone else in the room. I don't really care at all about any of the games out for it yet, but it is amazing technology. :D


Amazing... but creepy! Lol.... I don't need my video game thing recognizing me. Lol. Wii motion is enough I think. Hehehehe.



The fitnesss demo that came with mine actually scanned my body and gave me measurements :shock: :lol: And in all the games there's an option to take photos - I turned that off pretty quickly - didn't need a picture of myself dancing to Poker Face in my bathrobe!!
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:15 pm

Behshad wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:She LOVES the Kinect! She's been playing it several times per week. She pretty much just plays Dance Central. Every time someone comes over now, they bust out the Dance Central, but I'm not a fan. I'm glad she's loving it though, and that's all that counts. :D


What the hell is Kinect? It's kind of like Wii Motion Plus, right?
I have one dance game for Wii, and just got the Cardio Dance game from my sis but I haven't tried it yet.
That dancing stuff is a hell of a workout. I love it! I wish I knew someone with Xbox... this Dance Central thing sounds fun!


No, it's not like the Wii. There is no controller other than your body. It has face and voice recognition and knows you from anyone else in the room. I don't really care at all about any of the games out for it yet, but it is amazing technology. :D




Love the Kinect technology. I was very skeptical about Playstation Move. That's also damn impressive and really makes WiiMote look pretty "cheap". The accuracy is top notch. Best $50 I ever spent. Specially with the demos you can download to try it out.


Well I'm sure Wii motion seems lame and cheap in comparison, but I can barely navigate Mario Kart, so to me its super high tech shit. :lol: but triple s is right... I don't need the interwebs watching me dance in my jammies. Forget that. :lol:
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Postby Triple S » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:22 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Well I'm sure Wii motion seems lame and cheap in comparison, but I can barely navigate Mario Kart, so to me its super high tech shit. :lol: but triple s is right... I don't need the interwebs watching me dance in my jammies. Forget that. :lol:


LOL - no-one will see you unless you actually play on XBox LIVE - which I never do. What happens in my house stays in my house :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:36 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )


So that one of you in your jammies they might have seen? :lol: That Kinect is too cool! Makes me want to get an xbox now after seeing yours :lol: The kids loved it!
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:39 am

Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )


So that one of you in your jammies they might have seen? :lol: That Kinect is too cool! Makes me want to get an xbox now after seeing yours :lol: The kids loved it!
Nah! We didn't have it On xbox live. I don't think they are using actual images anyway though. Scary thought though! I'd feel bad for THEM! :lol: My kids joke that this is like "skynet" and these machines will take over :lol: it's really cool though! So much better than the wii with things like exercise and dance! The controller thing doesn't work too well for that!
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Postby Melissa » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:52 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Melissa wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )


So that one of you in your jammies they might have seen? :lol: That Kinect is too cool! Makes me want to get an xbox now after seeing yours :lol: The kids loved it!
Nah! We didn't have it On xbox live. I don't think they are using actual images anyway though. Scary thought though! I'd feel bad for THEM! :lol: My kids joke that this is like "skynet" and these machines will take over :lol: it's really cool though! So much better than the wii with things like exercise and dance! The controller thing doesn't work too well for that!


Yeah I'd feel bad for them too, I'm sure they are going to end up seeing some things they'd really rather NOT see! :lol:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:37 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )

:shock: Is he lying?!?! Because that seems like an invasion of privacy ...or is it legal because
they told you they'd be watching ?!? I don't like that!! :evil:
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Postby Behshad » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:52 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )

:shock: Is he lying?!?! Because that seems like an invasion of privacy ...or is it legal because
they told you they'd be watching ?!? I don't like that!! :evil:


Its the truth! Its not invasion of your privacy if you are informed about it. Theyre doing it for their marketing (so they say ) and they can monitor your moves and all thats happening in your living room, with or without Xbox live, as long as the Xbox is connected to internet.
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Postby Triple S » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:11 am

Behshad wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )

:shock: Is he lying?!?! Because that seems like an invasion of privacy ...or is it legal because
they told you they'd be watching ?!? I don't like that!! :evil:


Its the truth! Its not invasion of your privacy if you are informed about it. Theyre doing it for their marketing (so they say ) and they can monitor your moves and all thats happening in your living room, with or without Xbox live, as long as the Xbox is connected to internet.


Well then I'm safe :wink: - I never play games live and the only time I connect my Xbox to the 'net is to download songs for Rockband.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:30 am

Behshad wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Behshad wrote:Wrong ! Microsoft CAN see you !! ;) :twisted: Be careful what you do and say in front of your camera. Microsofy openly said that they do montior the audio/video feed from kinect for their "research to improve it".... :wink:


Well I better make sure I'm fully clothed then :shock: :lol: (christmas morning would be an embarrassing one! :lol: )

:shock: Is he lying?!?! Because that seems like an invasion of privacy ...or is it legal because
they told you they'd be watching ?!? I don't like that!! :evil:


Its the truth! Its not invasion of your privacy if you are informed about it. Theyre doing it for their marketing (so they say ) and they can monitor your moves and all thats happening in your living room, with or without Xbox live, as long as the Xbox is connected to internet.


Well, we keep our xbox internet off when we play, unless the kids are playing their games with others. Microsoft is very careful in their wording though. They say they don't identify you, and they make it sound like they are looking at those movement pictures, not the "actual" pictures and video of YOU. Like the sensor stuff? They are really vague. :lol: I really don't think they are looking at actual images of us though, because then you get into privacy issues in people's homes, and I would think that would lead them into problems legally.

Here, it works through "skeletal" tracking.... :lol:

"The Kinect sensor scans your body – we call it skeletal tracking – in order to facilitate game play. Skeletal tracking data is a representation of body joints–picture a stick figure - and cannot be used to personally identify you. This information, that we call session data, is held in temporary memory on the console and is only used to create the “stick figure” needed to track your movements. When you turn off your Xbox, the skeletal tracking information is deleted from temporary memory. "

And this is the data they track:


"Kinect Performance Data. This information helps us continuously improve Kinect performance. It does not personally identify you, and collection of this data cannot be disabled. As you play, we collect information on how your Kinect device and platform software are functioning, usage patterns within the Xbox Dashboard applications, and other data that does not directly or personally identify you. We may analyze this performance data to ensure users are receiving the optimal game experience, and to help improve Kinect games and the Xbox 360 platform. We may also share some of this aggregated data with companies that provide Kinect-enabled games which will help them improve their product. "

Here's the whole link for those who are curious:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Kinect/Privac ... ollection1
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Postby S2M » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:17 am

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Postby Behshad » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:43 am

One of the best Trivia games on PC just came out on PS3/360/Wii !! Fun party game indeed:

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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:22 am

I love You Dont know Jack! Haven't played it in years!! I'm going to look for that for sure!! :)
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:56 am

StevePerryHair wrote:I love You Dont know Jack! Haven't played it in years!! I'm going to look for that for sure!! :)


I've been saying for YEARS that you don't know Jack! :lol: :D :wink:
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Postby Peartree12249 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:13 pm

Activision axes Guitar Hero! :shock: Today Activision announced it is pulling the plug on the Guitar Hero franchise due to declining interest. OMG, this is terrible! Now kids will be forced to have to learn to play real musical instruments. :roll: :twisted:

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Postby Frontiers65 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:44 am

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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:48 am

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StevePerryHair wrote:I love You Dont know Jack! Haven't played it in years!! I'm going to look for that for sure!! :)


I've been saying for YEARS that you don't know Jack! :lol: :D :wink:
:lol:
Well, who IS jack?? Does anyone really know him? :P :lol:
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Postby Deb » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:17 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:I love You Dont know Jack! Haven't played it in years!! I'm going to look for that for sure!! :)


I've been saying for YEARS that you don't know Jack! :lol: :D :wink:
:lol:
Well, who IS jack?? Does anyone really know him? :P :lol:


All I know is, don't piss him off...... :lol:

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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:22 am

Peartree12249 wrote:Activision axes Guitar Hero! :shock: Today Activision announced it is pulling the plug on the Guitar Hero franchise due to declining interest. OMG, this is terrible! Now kids will be forced to have to learn to play real musical instruments. :roll: :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-du6uoo9Qu0


That's what happens when you oversaturate the market with 8 million iterations of the same game. There was no way you could keep up with all the different iterations, let alone with the Rock Band iterations out there too. Just too much.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:28 am

Deb wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:I love You Dont know Jack! Haven't played it in years!! I'm going to look for that for sure!! :)


I've been saying for YEARS that you don't know Jack! :lol: :D :wink:
:lol:
Well, who IS jack?? Does anyone really know him? :P :lol:


All I know is, don't piss him off...... :lol:

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:lol: :lol:
Yes, because from what I hear, "Jack could strangle you with a cordless phone!" :lol:
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