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Postby S2M » Thu May 19, 2011 2:08 pm

They should have named it Tampax, cause that song makes my ears bleed.....
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Postby artist4perry » Thu May 19, 2011 2:09 pm

S2M wrote:They should have named it Tampax, cause that song makes my ears bleed.....


Then get the cotton and string out of your ears..... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Don » Thu May 19, 2011 2:09 pm

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He does have a point. Even the catchy tunes like Anything is Impossible never really arrive anywhere and when it ends you're like, that's it?



Are you guys for real? That's an amazing song and the most classic melodic Journey track of the whole album.


I really think Someone is the song that holds that distinction.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 19, 2011 2:12 pm

Don wrote:I'm sorry and I know a lot of people will disagree when they hear the complete version but Tantra is just too much Pomp and Circumstance when all I want to do is rock. When the next track starts, it's actually a relief.


I like Tantra, but it requires a certain mood. It seems Disney-esque, or something like that....or meatloafish in places. :shock:
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 2:16 pm

Don wrote:I'm sorry and I know a lot of people will disagree when they hear the complete version but Tantra is just too much Pomp and Circumstance when all I want to do is rock. When the next track starts, it's actually a relief.


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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 2:17 pm

S2M wrote:They should have named it Tampax, cause that song makes my ears bleed.....


Good. They might get clogged up and prevent you from hearing anything more to complain about. Go play it again. Loud.
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 2:18 pm

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Don wrote:I'm sorry and I know a lot of people will disagree when they hear the complete version but Tantra is just too much Pomp and Circumstance when all I want to do is rock. When the next track starts, it's actually a relief.


I like Tantra, but it requires a certain mood. It seems Disney-esque, or something like that....or meatloafish in places. :shock:


It's off the wall brilliant. Some will get it...some won't.
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 2:18 pm

BTW - MOVING THIS TO THE JOURNEY FORUM.
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 19, 2011 2:20 pm

Andrew wrote:
S2M wrote:They should have named it Tampax, cause that song makes my ears bleed.....


Good. They might get clogged up and prevent you from hearing anything more to complain about. Go play it again. Loud.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 19, 2011 2:20 pm

Andrew wrote:BTW - MOVING THIS TO THE JOURNEY FORUM.


Cocksucker! :wink:
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Postby Don » Thu May 19, 2011 2:21 pm

Andrew wrote:
Don wrote:I'm sorry and I know a lot of people will disagree when they hear the complete version but Tantra is just too much Pomp and Circumstance when all I want to do is rock. When the next track starts, it's actually a relief.


:shock:


I almost expected BONO to pop in and start singing at any moment. It fatigues me for some reason. I have shuffle set and when She's A Mystery started, I was like "It's finally over? Great, back to the good jams!"
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu May 19, 2011 2:22 pm

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For the average Journey fan, yes it does. Not everyone is interested in change as the constant presence of the Dirty Dozen in each evening's setlist can attest to.



No offence to the 'average Journey fan', but screw the average Journey fan! I love dark and mood records and I love that guitar is all over this record and the song structures aren't predictable, nor familiar. Play an old Journey album if that's what you want. We don't need the same stuff over and over.

This album is bold and ballsy and I'm loving it....still...



I love it.Good to see Neal boldly push the band in a harder direction.I will definitely be buying this one.Glad that we don't have a lot of Cain influence on this one.Bet there were a few struggles between Jon and Neal over this harder influence on this album.
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Postby Don » Thu May 19, 2011 3:13 pm

steveo777 wrote:BTW, how much of a degradation of quality is a 320kbs mp3 compared to listening to the actual disc?


Unless you're a dog, I don't think there's that much to worry about.
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 3:16 pm

Don wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Don wrote:
He does have a point. Even the catchy tunes like Anything is Impossible never really arrive anywhere and when it ends you're like, that's it?



Are you guys for real? That's an amazing song and the most classic melodic Journey track of the whole album.


I really think Someone is the song that holds that distinction.


Agreed 100%.
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu May 19, 2011 3:17 pm

mikemarrs wrote:
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For the average Journey fan, yes it does. Not everyone is interested in change as the constant presence of the Dirty Dozen in each evening's setlist can attest to.


No offence to the 'average Journey fan', but screw the average Journey fan! I love dark and mood records and I love that guitar is all over this record and the song structures aren't predictable, nor familiar. Play an old Journey album if that's what you want. We don't need the same stuff over and over.

This album is bold and ballsy and I'm loving it....still...


I love it.Good to see Neal boldly push the band in a harder direction.I will definitely be buying this one.Glad that we don't have a lot of Cain influence on this one.Bet there were a few struggles between Jon and Neal over this harder influence on this album.

Which is all well and good. But when your audience which you know doesn't want to hear it, walks out on the new stuff don't cry about it and further ruin a perfectly horrible spray tan. :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 3:30 pm

REVIEW COMPLETED :P
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 19, 2011 3:33 pm

Andrew wrote:REVIEW COMPLETED :P


& published? Thought not. :wink:
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 4:21 pm

30 mins.

And I'll begin taking complaints about the review in 31.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 19, 2011 4:38 pm

Andrew wrote:30 mins.

And I'll begin taking complaints about the review in 31.


This ought to be fun. Sure you wanna do this? 8)
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Postby S2M » Thu May 19, 2011 4:55 pm

Tick Tock....where's the review? It's past 30 mins.....
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 5:12 pm

S2M wrote:Tick Tock....where's the review? It's past 30 mins.....


It's there now. YOU are going to just LOVE my review! :D
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Postby S2M » Thu May 19, 2011 5:15 pm

Andrew wrote:
S2M wrote:Tick Tock....where's the review? It's past 30 mins.....


It's there now. YOU are going to just LOVE my review! :D


All I had to see is the color of the review. I 'knew' you were gonna rank it higher than W.E.T., or Whitesnake.... :? :P

Did your complimentary copy come with a tube sock, or petroleum jelly? :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 19, 2011 5:22 pm

S2M wrote:
Andrew wrote:
S2M wrote:Tick Tock....where's the review? It's past 30 mins.....


It's there now. YOU are going to just LOVE my review! :D


All I had to see is the color of the review. I 'knew' you were gonna rank it higher than W.E.T., or Whitesnake.... :? :P

Did your complimentary copy come with a tube sock, or petroleum jelly? :lol:


Puck you! ;)

Seriously, the more I listen to this album, the more I realize about it. If you are a track skipper, you won't get it. If you play a song for 2 minutes, you won't get it.
Most of the magic on these songs happens way after the 2 minute mark, some after 3.
This is an amazing work and I'm still a bit stunned. I've been dissecting it for about 5 hours. It keeps getting better. :D

The problem with this album: It's deeper than the average Journey fan. Many won't get their head around it.
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 5:44 pm

S2M wrote:
Andrew wrote:
S2M wrote:Tick Tock....where's the review? It's past 30 mins.....


It's there now. YOU are going to just LOVE my review! :D


All I had to see is the color of the review. I 'knew' you were gonna rank it higher than W.E.T., or Whitesnake.... :? :P

Did your complimentary copy come with a tube sock, or petroleum jelly? :lol:


I hope you choke on it :D

BTW - WET got 100 also.
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 19, 2011 5:46 pm

steveo777 wrote:
The problem with this album: It's deeper than the average Journey fan. Many won't get their head around it.


In some cases, this is going to be very true.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 19, 2011 6:10 pm

Andrew, I read it and I love it. This album should not bring out the usual Perry vs. Pineda arguments. It's not about that.
Really refreshing stuff. I'm looking forward to what people say, once they hear this. This album brings Journey into a new
age and most likely a newer audiance. It stands well on its own with its modern sound. Great musician ship and the band
seems very cohesive. I'm gonna warn you guys now.....Cain will get revenge on the next album. :P
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Postby VirgilTheart » Thu May 19, 2011 7:29 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:I'm sorry and I know a lot of people will disagree when they hear the complete version but Tantra is just too much Pomp and Circumstance when all I want to do is rock. When the next track starts, it's actually a relief.


I like Tantra, but it requires a certain mood. It seems Disney-esque, or something like that....or meatloafish in places. :shock:


Considering I am a bit of a Disney fanatic, I suppose that might explain why I love the song so much. :lol: :wink:

But personally, the best comparison I can think of, sonically at least, is something along the lines of Queen or as you said, Meat Loaf. Just that big "WAY OVER THE TOP" sort of sound Tantra has. :wink:

Seriously, aside from pretty much most of the entire score of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, I can't think of anything Alan Menken ever cooked up that really had that sort of feeling. :wink:
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Postby Majestic » Thu May 19, 2011 7:36 pm

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steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:I'm sorry and I know a lot of people will disagree when they hear the complete version but Tantra is just too much Pomp and Circumstance when all I want to do is rock. When the next track starts, it's actually a relief.


I like Tantra, but it requires a certain mood. It seems Disney-esque, or something like that....or meatloafish in places. :shock:


Considering I am a bit of a Disney fanatic, I suppose that might explain why I love the song so much. :lol: :wink:

But personally, the best comparison I can think of, sonically at least, is something along the lines of Queen or as you said, Meat Loaf. Just that big "WAY OVER THE TOP" sort of sound Tantra has. :wink:

Seriously, aside from pretty much most of the entire score of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, I can't think of anything Alan Menken ever cooked up that really had that sort of feeling. :wink:


I agree. Tantra, from what I've listened to of it so far, feels a lot like a Queen ballad. Very cool.
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Postby VirgilTheart » Thu May 19, 2011 8:09 pm

steveo777 wrote:Seriously, the more I listen to this album, the more I realize about it. If you are a track skipper, you won't get it. If you play a song for 2 minutes, you won't get it.
Most of the magic on these songs happens way after the 2 minute mark, some after 3.
This is an amazing work and I'm still a bit stunned. I've been dissecting it for about 5 hours. It keeps getting better. :D

The problem with this album: It's deeper than the average Journey fan. Many won't get their head around it.


I have to concur with this. While I myself have been skipping around the songs (I intend to do a full-on start to finish listen through next week when I get the physical CD :wink: ), I make sure I listen to the entirety of all the songs. Seriously, the best part of She's A Mystery doesn't happen until about four and a half to five minutes into the song, for example. :lol: You have to listen to the songs start to finish to get the songs.

And I definitely believe it's deeper than what the average Journey fan expects from the band. :twisted:
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Postby lordreo » Thu May 19, 2011 8:09 pm

Guys? Am I the only one on here that doesn't have Eclipse yet?

Damned I whish I lived in America (or that at least we had Walmart here ;) )

You're all driving me nuts^^
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