Dow plunges 512 points

by **Saint John** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:57 am

Behshad wrote:Love ya Dan , but you're misinformed about the "most sought after phone" at this point , simply because no info has been released about what all it will do that iPhone 4 won't.

A new survey suggests that Apple may have sold its iPhone 5 to more than a third of smartphone Relevant Products/Services consumers before the device is even announced, let alone on the market. The computer Relevant Products/Services giant is widely believed to have an iPhone refresh up its sleeve for this fall, and the survey suggests a large share of consumers are holding off upgrades or new purchases until then.

Amazing, eh? :shock:

by **Behshad** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:36 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:Love ya Dan , but you're misinformed about the "most sought after phone" at this point , simply because no info has been released about what all it will do that iPhone 4 won't.

A new survey suggests that Apple may have sold its iPhone 5 to more than a third of smartphone Relevant Products/Services consumers before the device is even announced, let alone on the market. The computer Relevant Products/Services giant is widely believed to have an iPhone refresh up its sleeve for this fall, and the survey suggests a large share of consumers are holding off upgrades or new purchases until then.

Amazing, eh?

The fact remains that no features of iPhone 5 has been revealed yet. Plus no one at this point can purchase/order/preorder the phone. It's all speculations , but as I said IF the new phone doesn't bring up enough to the table , most iPhone 4 owners will choose the software upgrade route and hold off till iPhone 6 comes out.

by **S2M** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:45 am

Talk about bleeding consumers dry at every level....a new iPhone every 12 months?! No wonder Apple has money...the halflife for technology is too damn short. Digital storage is another scam...hard drive space...I remember when HDs were 20Gs...then 40...60....80...120....160....fleecing consumers at every level....you know when they were selling 120Gs they already had TB technology....equal opportunity contrarian- today I'm on those consumer scammers at Apple.

by **Saint John** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:57 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:Love ya Dan , but you're misinformed about the "most sought after phone" at this point , simply because no info has been released about what all it will do that iPhone 4 won't.

A new survey suggests that Apple may have sold its iPhone 5 to more than a third of smartphone Relevant Products/Services consumers before the device is even announced, let alone on the market. The computer Relevant Products/Services giant is widely believed to have an iPhone refresh up its sleeve for this fall, and the survey suggests a large share of consumers are holding off upgrades or new purchases until then.

Amazing, eh?

The fact remains that no features of iPhone 5 has been revealed yet. Plus no one at this point can purchase/order/preorder the phone. It's all speculations , but as I said IF the new phone doesn't bring up enough to the table , most iPhone 4 owners will choose the software upgrade route and hold off till iPhone 6 comes out.

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades. Personally, I think they'll release 2 phones this fall. iPhone5 and an upgraded iPhone4 ... for China.

Apple is said to have landed the biggest prize in the mobile industry, partnering with China Mobile, the largest wireless carrier in the world, according to alleged company filings.

Various sites this week relayed a report from Chinese-language ccidcom.com, which cited a company filing that allegedly revealed China Mobile has entered an agreement with Apple to sell the iPhone 4 at the end of October. China Mobile is the largest mobile carrier in the world with 611 million wireless subscribers, controlling 68 percent of the total wireless market in China.

Reacting to the rumors on Friday, analyst Mike Abramsky with RBC Capital Markets said an iPhone launch with China Mobile could equate to an additional 2 million to 3 million units sold at the end of 2011, or between 8 percent and 12 percent of total iPhone shipments.

And this guy's numbers are way, way too low!

by **Behshad** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:07 am

Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs

only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

by **Saint John** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:12 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

I think it's going to have a bigger screen, an 8 megapixel camera, and might possibly be LTE.

by **ebake02** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:20 am

I bet grandma shit her diaper when she saw those 2 armed F-16s out her window. :lol:

http://news.yahoo.com/f-16s-intercept-p ... 35401.html

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:39 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

I think it's going to have a bigger screen, an 8 megapixel camera, and might possibly be LTE.

The Droids already have a bigger screen and 8-megapixel camera.

by **ebake02** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:45 am

conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

I think it's going to have a bigger screen, an 8 megapixel camera, and might possibly be LTE.

The Droids already have a bigger screen and 8-megapixel camera.

But the Android Market is a malware factory, which is why I'm switching to an iPhone.

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:14 am

ebake02 wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

I think it's going to have a bigger screen, an 8 megapixel camera, and might possibly be LTE.

The Droids already have a bigger screen and 8-megapixel camera.

But the Android Market is a malware factory, which is why I'm switching to an iPhone.

I know a few folks that have one and haven't heard them complain about that.

by **ebake02** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:27 am

conversationpc wrote:
ebake02 wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

I think it's going to have a bigger screen, an 8 megapixel camera, and might possibly be LTE.

The Droids already have a bigger screen and 8-megapixel camera.

But the Android Market is a malware factory, which is why I'm switching to an iPhone.

I know a few folks that have one and haven't heard them complain about that.

I haven't had any problems with malware either but I'm constantly seeing news articles about about all these infected apps.

by **Don** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:33 am

Standard & Poor's, has downgraded the United States' top-notch AAA rating.

S&P cut the long-term US credit rating by one notch to AA+, citing concerns about growing budget deficits.

First time in our history, I believe.

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:00 am

Don wrote:Standard & Poor's, has downgraded the United States' top-notch AAA rating.

S&P cut the long-term US credit rating by one notch to AA+, citing concerns about growing budget deficits.

First time in our history, I believe.

S&P are obviously racist. They should change their title to K&K&K. :lol:

by **Saint John** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:01 am

conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:

Apple wouldn't release an iPhone without some pretty cool upgrades.

Wrong. June 2009 : Apple 3Gs only a tad faster than iPhone 3G but nothing else that was a major improvement.
I'm telling you man , Apple needs A LOT to sell more iPhone 5 than iPhone 4.
You going to upgrade ?!

I think it's going to have a bigger screen, an 8 megapixel camera, and might possibly be LTE.

The Droids already have a bigger screen and 8-megapixel camera.

Droids are shit copycats and will be paying Apple billions because they infringed on almost all of Apple's patents.

by **slucero** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:10 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Don wrote:Standard & Poor's, has downgraded the United States' top-notch AAA rating.

S&P cut the long-term US credit rating by one notch to AA+, citing concerns about growing budget deficits.

First time in our history, I believe.

S&P are obviously racist. They should change their title to K&K&K.

we just added 2.2 Trillion dollars in debt to am existing 14.3 Trillion dollar debt... That's a 16% increase... all at one time...

We also just took debt/GDP to 75%..

China just downgraded the US... which I'd say it's pretty responsible

S&P had no choice... ratings agencies have to at least give the appearance of having integrity... to do nothing would only make it look even more obviously biased than it already appears to be...

by **Saint John** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:56 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Don wrote:Standard & Poor's, has downgraded the United States' top-notch AAA rating.

S&P cut the long-term US credit rating by one notch to AA+, citing concerns about growing budget deficits.

First time in our history, I believe.

S&P are obviously racist. They should change their title to K&K&K.

Lol. Some lefty will probably echo your obvious hyperbole ... but he'll be serious. :lol:

by **Seven Wishes2** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:34 pm

Problem is, the reason the 3 main agencies looked into downgrading our rating in the first place was because revenue increases were NOT included in the "deal". If the Tea Baggers hadn't been blowing smoke up everybody's asses, this wouldn't have happened.

Turns out the Tea Bags are even more disliked than the Senate and the House:

Views of Congress, tea party reach new low in poll

One in five respondents said they approved of the tea party, down from 26 percent a few months ago.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/views-congress-tea-party-reach-low-poll-135728798.html

This downgrade is a shit stain on each one of those bastards on both sides of the aisle. Fuck them.

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:07 pm

Yeah, it's the Tea Party's fault we got downgraded. :roll:

You're a complete joke.

Did you catch the comments last week about how the establishment politicians were pissed because they couldn't BRIBE Tea Parties with re-election or chairmanships?

They're there to fix this spending problem. That's why you big government types don't like them.

We'll see how they really poll with the election next year. Enjoy your next ass beating.

by **Seven Wishes2** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:10 pm

They have all the sense of a dead pigeon and the economic knowledge of an Angolan mushroom farmer.

Given the poll data I just showed you, and seeing how they're TWICE as unpopular as the Republicans (who are only slightly less popular than Democrats), your prescience is questionable at best.

The Tea Baggers are a one time entity, and their swath of destruction will be clear enough come the next election cycle.

Good luck.

by **ebake02** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:11 pm

Personally, I don't think a downgrade by one agency is going to have much of effect. One of the talking heads on CNN made a good point that Europe is in worse shape than we are, her exact word' were that we are the "the cleanest dirty shirt."

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:17 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:They have all the sense of a dead pigeon and the economic knowledge of an Angolan mushroom farmer.

Given the poll data I just showed you, and seeing how they're TWICE as unpopular as the Republicans (who are only slightly less popular than Democrats), your prescience is questionable at best.

The Tea Baggers are a one time entity, and their swath of destruction will be clear enough come the next election cycle.

Good luck.

You say this as you, the President and your beloved Party are floating in the wreckage that his marvelous stimulus plan has created. Yeah, the Tea Party as well as the founders were complete nutballs. The founding documents too, Obama and you liberals always crowing how wonderful Europe is. You guys have it all figured out over those crazy originalists of yesterday who founded the best country in the history of the world and their admirers of today.

Keep making more stupid predictions like you did before the 2010 election. You're always wrong.

by **Seven Wishes2** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:21 pm

Right.

Except when it comes to facts. Then I'm almost always right. I love how you and your ilk ALWAYS avoid the painful truths and ALWAYS attempt to change the subject.

Again, you don't need to be a psychic to be able to read these Tea Leaves...the Tea Baggers are doomed.

by **Saint John** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:56 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Breaking News

Dow futures are open, down 180 points.

1 minutes ago

-235 now.

by **ebake02** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:17 pm

-247

5 minutes ago.

by **slucero** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:44 pm

Trading on the Israeli Exchange was stopped 3 times

HangSeng is down almost -1000

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:50 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
Don wrote:Standard & Poor's, has downgraded the United States' top-notch AAA rating.

S&P cut the long-term US credit rating by one notch to AA+, citing concerns about growing budget deficits.

First time in our history, I believe.

S&P are obviously racist. They should change their title to K&K&K.

Maybe it's time for some of that! Take a look around. Sometimes corrections are not financial. :wink:

Sometimes people who should be truing spoked wheels on pedi-cabs attain too much power. :shock:

by **ebake02** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:02 pm

slucero wrote:Trading on the Israeli Exchange was stopped 3 times

HangSeng is down almost -1000

No surprise, their money is our money.

by **slucero** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:06 pm

the downgrade was warranted... S&P had no choice or they would lose credibility in the rest of the world...

The fact that China allowed their rating agency to downgrade the US before S&P should speak volumes... and China owns $900B of US debt...

just how much does S&P own?

ZILCH.

by **ebake02** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:25 pm

I find it kind of funny that China was the first to slam the US after the downgrade. If this downgrade drags down our economy then they will loose just as much as we will. Most of what we buy is made in Chinese factories so if we stop buying, they loose money.

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:35 pm

ebake02 wrote:I find it kind of funny that China was the first to slam the US after the downgrade. If this downgrade drags down our economy then they will loose just as much as we will. Most of what we buy is made in Chinese factories so if we stop buying, they loose money.

America supports those Chinese factories by shopping at Walmart, so they can keep loaning us more money, so we can buy more cheap crap
that people can buy from such places as Walmart. Yup, that looks like an economy to me.

MR

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