2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

[mikemarrs]

Moss Retires

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[RedWingFan]

Another gaping hole opens up in Oakland....Damnitall!!!

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[S2M]

Another gaping hole opens up in Oakland....Damnitall!!!

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports. ... 8/31057280

I hope It's Al Davis's ass being ass-raped by an ass-raping mortician's ASSistant.....

[Enigma869]

Moss Retires

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... er-canton/

Probably the second most talented football player I've ever watched play. It's too bad the guy had a shitty attitude for his entire career. Dude was freakishly great and there has NEVER been a receiver in the history of the NFL with his raw talent.

[conversationpc]

Moss Retires

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... er-canton/

Probably the second most talented football player I've ever watched play. It's too bad the guy had a shitty attitude for his entire career. Dude was freakishly great and there has NEVER been a receiver in the history of the NFL with his raw talent.

He could've seemingly broken every receiving record in the book if he'd been movitated very much instead of dogging it most of the time.

[Enigma869]

He could've seemingly broken every receiving record in the book if he'd been movitated very much instead of dogging it most of the time.

I couldn't agree more. Moss was the anti-Jerry Rice. The truth of the matter is that Rice didn't have half the talent of Moss, but was a MUCH, MUCH harder worker than Moss ever was. It proves that hard work really does count for something.

[mikemarrs]

Sunday, Nov. 27

some are calling this an early potential super bowl preview? will they meet again


N.E. Patriots at Philadelphia Eagles 4:15 PM



Sunday, Oct. 30


Patriots at Steelers 4:15 PM


possible AFC championship matchup later in the season....

[Enigma869]

The Eagles are getting FAR too much hype. They've made some great off-season moves, but very rarely do the teams predicted to win actually win. I suspect the NFC will have a surprise team this season.

[YoungJRNY]

The Eagles are getting FAR too much hype. They've made some great off-season moves, but very rarely do the teams predicted to win actually win. I suspect the NFC will have a surprise team this season.

The Eagles were my Super Bowl pick at the end of last season. However, I do agree with your assessments. It's almost like they are digging their own grave with all these FA signings. It seems like they are in desperate mode and trying to grab as many big name FA's as they can and hope it sticks and completely throwing out chemistry and how it's a fragile thing to build through a football team.

These signings are actually swaying me away from Philly. I'm starting to have a HUGE feel for Atlanta right row. I may sway my SB pick for the Falcons to represent.

[Jonny B]

The Eagles are getting FAR too much hype. They've made some great off-season moves, but very rarely do the teams predicted to win actually win. I suspect the NFC will have a surprise team this season.

The Eagles were my Super Bowl pick at the end of last season. However, I do agree with your assessments. It's almost like they are digging their own grave with all these FA signings. It seems like they are in desperate mode and trying to grab as many big name FA's as they can and hope it sticks and completely throwing out chemistry and how it's a fragile thing to build through a football team.

These signings are actually swaying me away from Philly. I'm starting to have a HUGE feel for Atlanta right row. I may sway my SB pick for the Falcons to represent.

I don't like the Eagles as the SB favorite. Vick had a career year as far as QB stats go last year, but he's still injury-prone and behind him on the depth chart is the just-as-fragile Vince Young.

I've got the Packers to return to the SB and possibly repeat. They won it all with half their roster on the injured list. Imagine how much better they'd be if they stayed healthy?

I'm coin-flipping between the Pats and Jets to represent the AFC. Jets have got to the conference finals twice in spite of a inconsistent/often sputtering offense. The Pats will always be a contender with Brady at the helm, but how will the defense mesh with Haynesworth in town? With both Haynesworth and Wilfork on the roster, I'm thinking Belichick should ditch the 3-4, which has gotten almost no pressure on opposing QBs. Those two would make good building blocks for a potent 4-3.

[mikemarrs]

The San Diego Chargers could be a team to watch out for in the AFC this season.In the NFC there are teams like the Falcons who will definitely try top its 13-3 record from last year.Could be a very interesting season especially with the whole CBA mess throwing everything into a chaotic mess with teams having less time to prepare.In Dallas the new coach had them playing hard so who knows with the addition of Ryan as D coordinator they might just get somewhere this season.I think the Houston Texans will be a team that could be really good this season.

[Enigma869]

The Pats will always be a contender with Brady at the helm, but how will the defense mesh with Haynesworth in town? With both Haynesworth and Wilfork on the roster, I'm thinking Belichick should ditch the 3-4, which has gotten almost no pressure on opposing QBs. Those two would make good building blocks for a potent 4-3.

Haynesworth is a complete unknown, in terms of his attitude. Dude has been a douche for most of his career. That said, you won't find a more dominant D line in the entire NFL than he and Wilfork lining up next to each other. If this guy shows up to play (and so far, he is saying all the right things), the Patriots actually may have a defense. Their secondary is actually quite good. McCourty is a star in the making. Leigh Bodden (who missed the entire season last year) is healthy and Ras'I Dowling was a first round pick. Their only real question on defense is at Linebacker. Mayo is a stud. After Mayo, there is a HUGE drop-off. That said, Wilfork and Haynesworth will make stars out of some of those linebackers, because they'll both be double teamed on most plays, freeing up backers to get after the QB, untouched. By the way, there is ZERO chance Belichick is running a 3-4 with Haynesworth on this team. Will not happen. Belichick is a whole lot smarter than Shanahan has ever been, and always coaches to the talent of the guys on his team.

[Enigma869]

The expectations here, the way things are run, this is how it’s supposed to be. The way things were going [in Washington], I almost lost faith in myself, in my ability to play. The environment was so negative. It was just such a down place. I’ve been around some really good teams, like that year [2008] we were 10-0 in Tennessee. But this is another 20 percent above that in terms of what everybody expects. We had a great coach in [former Titans coach] Jeff Fisher, but Belichick is beyond even that. He doesn’t let anything slip through the cracks. Not one little thing. It all has to be right.

It’s everything (being associated with a winning organization),” Ochocinco said, “not just what you see on the field, it’s how we work in meetings. Every little thing has to be right or you’re getting ripped. Everybody gets ripped, even Tom [Brady], me, everybody. In Cincinnati, nobody ever said anything to Carson [Palmer]. Not here, because that’s the expectation. I love it. They expect perfection. You don’t hear the coaches saying, ‘Good play.’ That’s what you’re supposed to do.

Drink that Kool-Aid, boys!

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[RedWingFan]

Anyone else think that the NFL should have stopped doing the "America's Game" documentaries like 8 or 10 years prior to the current Super Bowl winners? I can't remember when they initially filmed and released them, say it was 1997, they should have stopped with the 1987 Super Bowl. Then the following year document the 1988 Super Bowl. And so on....

I love watching the older ones because you have these guys who's careers are behind them recalling this special time.

I loved this Howie Long quote, "I would give anything outside of my sons and family.....to be able to compete at that high level again."

I'm just seeing these promo's for the Packers talk about the game from 6 months ago. I think they lose a lot of impact the way they're doing it.

[gr8dane]

Fantasy football results

Girl on girl 21 Three in a bed 6
Lesbian twins 17 Nympho nurses 28
WPC uniform 19 Seduced by wife's mother 17

[mikemarrs]

The complete 2011 NFL preseason schedule:

WEEK 1 – AUGUST 11 – 15

Thursday, August 11-Time Eastern
Seattle at San Diego (ESPN )-8:00p
Jacksonville at New England-7:30p
Baltimore at Philadelphia-7:30p
Denver at Dallas-8:30p
Arizona at Oakland-10:00p

Friday, August 12
Tampa Bay at Kansas City (FOX )-8:00p
Miami at Atlanta -7:30p
Cincinnati at Detroit-7:30p
Pittsburgh at Washington-7:30p
San Francisco at New Orleans-8:00p

Saturday, August 13
Green Bay at Cleveland-7:30p
NY Giants at Carolina-8:00p
Buffalo at Chicago-8:00p
Indianapolis at St. Louis-8:00p
Minnesota at Tennessee-8:00p

Monday, August 15
NY Jets at Houston (ESPN)-8:00p

WEEK 2 – AUGUST 18-22

Thursday, August 18
Philadelphia at Pittsburgh (FOX)-8:00p
New England at Tampa Bay-7:30p

Friday, August 19
Atlanta at Jacksonville (FOX)-8:00p
Washington at Indianapolis-7:00p
Kansas City at Baltimore-7:30p
Detroit at Cleveland-7:30p
Carolina at Miami -7:30p
Arizona at Green Bay-8:00p

Saturday, August 20
New Orleans at Houston-8:00p
Tennessee at St. Louis-8:00p
Oakland at San Francisco-8:00p
Buffalo at Denver-8:30p
Minnesota at Seattle-10:00p

Sunday, August 21
San Diego at Dallas (NBC)-8:00p
Cincinnati at NY Jets-7:00p

Monday, August 22
Chicago at NY Giants (ESPN)-8:00p

WEEK 3 – AUGUST 25-28

Thursday, August 25
Washington at Baltimore(ESPN)-8:00p
Carolina at Cincinnati-7:00p
Cleveland at Philadelphia-7:30p

Friday, August 26
Green Bay at Indianapolis (CBS)-8:00p
St. Louis at Kansas City-8:00p

Saturday, August 27
New England at Detroit (CBS)-8:00p
Jacksonville at Buffalo-7:00p
NY Jets at NY Giants-7:00p
Atlanta at Pittsburgh-7:30p
Miami at Tampa Bay -7:30p
Dallas at Minnesota-8:00p
Houston at San Francisco-8:00p
Chicago at Tennessee-8:00p
Seattle at Denver-9:00p
San Diego at Arizona-10:00p

Sunday, August 28
New Orleans at Oakland (NBC)-8:00p

WEEK 4 – SEPTEMBER 1-2

Thursday, September 1
Detroit at Buffalo-6:30p
Indianapolis at Cincinnati-7:00p
Baltimore at Atlanta-7:30p
St. Louis at Jacksonville-7:30p
Dallas at Miami-7:30p
NY Giants at New England-7:30p
Philadelphia at NY Jets-7:30p
Tampa Bay at Washington-7:30p
Pittsburgh at Carolina-8:00p
Cleveland at Chicago-8:00p
Kansas City at Green Bay-8:00p
Houston at Minnesota-8:00p
Tennessee at New Orleans-8:00p
Denver at Arizona-10:00p
San Francisco at San Diego-10:00p

Friday, September 2
Oakland at Seattle-10:30p

[Enigma869]

Does anyone really care about pre-season football?

[YoungJRNY]

Does anyone really care about pre-season football?

*Raises hand*

It does get stale and boring to most people but I love watching the young guys get their feet wet. It's all about slimming down the roster and waiting for one young man to step up and make an impression. It's nice to see some of the guys out there battling for an opening. 4th QRT's are brutal though, mostly practice squad contributions.

[S2M]

Does anyone really care about pre-season football?

You excited about having Shaun Ellis for a year?

[mikemarrs]

Like it all from the NFL draft,schedule release,free agency,preseason,the regular season,postseason,super bowl,etc. pretty much only sport i like and watch anymore.

[mikemarrs]

After really thinking about it i think the Atlanta Falcons will be the ones to win the NFC.There is a lot of hype for Philly but those expectations will prove to be too much.So i see the Green Bay Packers and Atlanta in the NFC championship.In the AFC i think it will come down to Pittsburgh and New England.

[YoungJRNY]

After really thinking about it i think the Atlanta Falcons will be the ones to win the NFC.There is a lot of hype for Philly but those expectations will prove to be too much.So i see the Green Bay Packers and Atlanta in the NFC championship.In the AFC i think it will come down to Pittsburgh and New England.

Stop stealing my ideas! Haha, just playing. I agree. You got to look at the teams going quietly about their business that already have a championship caliber team in the making. Atlanta made it far last season and people forget they were the NFC's best record at 13-3. Thing is, is that the NFC is so powerful as of late that teams like the Falcons get lost in the shuffle very fast. Matt Ryan is entering his 3rd season, the make or break year for a young QB so I think Atlanta can come out the gates fast and pressure an already pressured Philly team (for obvious reasons) and Packers team (champions) for the right for their conference.

AFC I don't see being as strong as the NFC and that it'll come down to the same teams that have a strong backbone to contend for championships. New England & Pittsburgh being the top dawgs as the Jets, Ravens and Chargers as wild-card teams who could un-seat the top 2 at any time.

[Jonny B]

Does anyone really care about pre-season football?

*Raises hand*

It does get stale and boring to most people but I love watching the young guys get their feet wet. It's all about slimming down the roster and waiting for one young man to step up and make an impression. It's nice to see some of the guys out there battling for an opening. 4th QRT's are brutal though, mostly practice squad contributions.

I do like to watch the backups play. Many starters get injured over the course of the year, and sometimes watching the preseason can give you an idea of how teams will do down the road when the season is late and the injuries are numerous.

[YoungJRNY]

Does anyone really care about pre-season football?

*Raises hand*

It does get stale and boring to most people but I love watching the young guys get their feet wet. It's all about slimming down the roster and waiting for one young man to step up and make an impression. It's nice to see some of the guys out there battling for an opening. 4th QRT's are brutal though, mostly practice squad contributions.

I do like to watch the backups play. Many starters get injured over the course of the year, and sometimes watching the preseason can give you an idea of how teams will do down the road when the season is late and the injuries are numerous.

Exactly. Plus, we hear a lot of young guys stepping up into roles while the veterans take to their needed wrest and it's good to identify who's having a good camp and that translating over to how they perform under the lights. There's just a lot of storylines involved to watch out for. Exciting if you ask me.

[mikemarrs]

After really thinking about it i think the Atlanta Falcons will be the ones to win the NFC.There is a lot of hype for Philly but those expectations will prove to be too much.So i see the Green Bay Packers and Atlanta in the NFC championship.In the AFC i think it will come down to Pittsburgh and New England.

Stop stealing my ideas! Haha, just playing. I agree. You got to look at the teams going quietly about their business that already have a championship caliber team in the making. Atlanta made it far last season and people forget they were the NFC's best record at 13-3. Thing is, is that the NFC is so powerful as of late that teams like the Falcons get lost in the shuffle very fast. Matt Ryan is entering his 3rd season, the make or break year for a young QB so I think Atlanta can come out the gates fast and pressure an already pressured Philly team (for obvious reasons) and Packers team (champions) for the right for their conference.

AFC I don't see being as strong as the NFC and that it'll come down to the same teams that have a strong backbone to contend for championships. New England & Pittsburgh being the top dawgs as the Jets, Ravens and Chargers as wild-card teams who could un-seat the top 2 at any time.

I started to see what you said about Philly and you were right.Too much hype and too many expectations plus they have a bullseye on them now due to all the talent they have collected.It doesn't mean much if the team doesn't come together and be a force instead of each guy making himself bigger than the team which is what happens when you have a bunch of big name stars and that can fragment a team quickly.The only thing that stood in Atlanta way last year was Green Bay but i think this is the year the Falcons get over that hurdle.

[Greg]

Haynesworth is a complete unknown, in terms of his attitude. Dude has been a douche for most of his career. That said, you won't find a more dominant D line in the entire NFL than he and Wilfork lining up next to each other. If this guy shows up to play (and so far, he is saying all the right things), the Patriots actually may have a defense. Their secondary is actually quite good. McCourty is a star in the making. Leigh Bodden (who missed the entire season last year) is healthy and Ras'I Dowling was a first round pick. Their only real question on defense is at Linebacker. Mayo is a stud. After Mayo, there is a HUGE drop-off. That said, Wilfork and Haynesworth will make stars out of some of those linebackers, because they'll both be double teamed on most plays, freeing up backers to get after the QB, untouched. By the way, there is ZERO chance Belichick is running a 3-4 with Haynesworth on this team. Will not happen. Belichick is a whole lot smarter than Shanahan has ever been, and always coaches to the talent of the guys on his team.

I know you float the pom poms big time for your Pats, but it's kind of obvious that Belichick would see things more clearly on the defensive side of the ball since he's a defensive minded coach. Shanahan, on the other hand, has coached from the offensive perspective. The better comparison would be to compare Belichick to Haslett - which in case I would agree with you. I certainly hope for you sake that Belichick can get Hanesworth to play, but there is a big difference between coaching to the strength of your players and changing your entire philosophy on whichever side of the ball that player plays on, just to make that one player happy. Haslett coaches a pure 3-4 defense. Obviously Belichick mixes in a combination of the 4-3 and a 3-4. It's not so much of coaching to the player's strength. If that player is being a nuisance on your team, it doesn't matter how you try to coach that player up. For the record, the Redskins were trying to fit Al in a position in the 3-4 where he could show his strengths, but Fat Albert just wanted everything his way. So, I say good riddance to him! He's yours now! Good luck!

[mikemarrs]

If The Pats can get Albert to play like he did in 2007 and 2008 here in Tennessee plus having him lined up with Wilfork then the Patriots could have one hell of a defense.Titans went 13-3 in 2008 when Albert played lights out and we had Chris Johnson as a rookie carrying the offense.If Alge Freakin Crumpler didn't fumble versus the Ravens in the AFC divisonal playoff at the goalline i have no doubt the Titans at home might've had a good shot at getting past Pitt in the AFC championship to go the Super Bowl but it wasn't meant to be.

[Seven Wishes2]

With Carter, Ellis, and a rejuvinated Fat Albert, the only real weakness on the Pats' roster is at linebacker. They're just as good as Philly, and this is a team built to win in the post season.

[Enigma869]

You excited about having Shaun Ellis for a year?

If he can still play, then yes. He's 34 years old and was only offered $100K over the league minimum salary by the Jets, which tells me that the Jets probably think he's done. I'm really more excited by the fact that Belichick is completely loading up on defensive players. Belichick has always been a defensive coach, so it's nice to see him finally make that side of the ball a huge priority. The truth of the matter is that the Patriots have the best offense in the NFL and have for a very long time. Their shortcoming has been on defense. If this defense can come together, this could be a very interesting season and make this team much more well rounded than they've been since guys like Bruschi, McGinest, Law, and Harrison moved on.

[Enigma869]

Many starters get injured over the course of the year, and sometimes watching the preseason can give you an idea of how teams will do down the road when the season is late and the injuries are numerous.

I couldn't disagree more. Pre-season football has NEVER meant anything. The Patriots have gone 0-4 in the pre-season and won the Super Bowl. It's completely meaningless football and half the guys you see playing don't even make the team. I'm the biggest football fan on the planet but just can't stomach pre-season football. I won't pay attention to a single snap until September.