Where Should The Band Go From Here? (the next album)

by **VirgilTheart** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:54 pm

Pelata wrote:Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?

Definitely this. From the look of it, it's thanks to Jonathan and Neal that Eclipse was so well produced and mixed.

by **Pelata** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:15 am

VirgilTheart wrote:
Pelata wrote:Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?

Definitely this. From the look of it, it's thanks to Jonathan and Neal that Eclipse was so well produced and mixed.

Yeah, it sounded like Neal wasn't happy & felt like Shirley rushed them. I would definitely like to hear a Journey album under new production management...

by **VirgilTheart** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:23 am

Pelata wrote:
VirgilTheart wrote:
Pelata wrote:Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?

Definitely this. From the look of it, it's thanks to Jonathan and Neal that Eclipse was so well produced and mixed.

Yeah, it sounded like Neal wasn't happy & felt like Shirley rushed them. I would definitely like to hear a Journey album under new production management...

I don't even get why a lot of bands hire him for album production. A lot of folks don't seem to like his work. :lol:

by **Pelata** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:02 am

VirgilTheart wrote:
Pelata wrote:
VirgilTheart wrote:
Pelata wrote:Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?

Definitely this. From the look of it, it's thanks to Jonathan and Neal that Eclipse was so well produced and mixed.

Yeah, it sounded like Neal wasn't happy & felt like Shirley rushed them. I would definitely like to hear a Journey album under new production management...

I don't even get why a lot of bands hire him for album production. A lot of folks don't seem to like his work.

I don't actually dislike it...it just might be time for a change. TBF, Arrival, Revelation, Eclipse...maybe use someone else next time?

by **Saint John** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:20 am

I'm pretty sure that the great sonic on Eclipse can be, in large part, attributed to David Kalmusky.

by **SF-Dano** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:22 am

What about working with Bob Rock or Mutt? Not sure, but it is definitely time for a change. Not a big Shirley fan.

by **kgdjpubs** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:38 am

VirgilTheart wrote:
Pelata wrote:
VirgilTheart wrote:
Pelata wrote:Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?

Definitely this. From the look of it, it's thanks to Jonathan and Neal that Eclipse was so well produced and mixed.

Yeah, it sounded like Neal wasn't happy & felt like Shirley rushed them. I would definitely like to hear a Journey album under new production management...

I don't even get why a lot of bands hire him for album production. A lot of folks don't seem to like his work.

probably a combination of several things...
1) he's a musician, so can relate to bands and actually help them improve the songs
2) he's apparently very good at managing egos
3) gets things done fast without wasting time --> saves money for the label
4) likely cheaper than some people like Mutt Lange

by **Don** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:40 am

Saint John wrote:I'm pretty sure that the great sonic on Eclipse can be, in large part, attributed to David Kalmusky.

I agree. Anyone thinking to attribute the wonderful mix down to Neal and Jon only need to go back to Disc two of Revelation. Everyone writing off Shirley might want to remember that he was the one that suggested bringing David in and it appears to have been a great move.

by **majik** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:14 pm

Pelata wrote:Maybe ditch Kevin Shirley? I wonder how Journey would sound with, say, John Shanks or Dann Huff at the helm?

Kevin Shirley is deaf in one ear and can't hear with the other.

by **slucero** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:34 pm

steveo777 wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:
belar wrote:There shouldn't be another studio album, unless it's good, like Eclipse.

+1

Fixed & screw the casual fan!

... and what's left of their careers... Eclipse (and more music in that vein) will relegate live Journey to the nostalgia tours... because it IS the casual fan that packs those arenas... and they want legacy sounding Journey... not Eclipse-sounding Journey...

by **Seven Wishes2** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:52 pm

Another Eclipse, and Journey will be relegated to doing boat shows with Hassselhof.

"Come see the band that brought you "Broken Arms" and the "Night Rider" on Norwegian Cruise Lines, this month only! Plus, upgrade to a luxury cabin, and receive free oatmeal and dentures for one year!"

And someone please tell me how not liking Eclipse makes one "closed minded". Does that mean I'm "open minded" because I loved Piano With a View and Dream, After Dream?

by **majik** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:55 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Another Eclipse, and Journey will be relegated to doing boat shows with Hassselhof.

"Come see the band that brought you "Broken Arms" and the "Night Rider" on Norwegian Cruise Lines, this month only! Plus, upgrade to a luxury cabin, and receive free oatmeal and dentures for one year!"

And someone please tell me how not liking Eclipse makes one "closed minded". Does that mean I'm "open minded" because I loved Piano With a View and Dream, After Dream?

The Hoff would kick new Journeys ass leave the Hoff alone.

by **VirgilTheart** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:32 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Another Eclipse, and Journey will be relegated to doing boat shows with Hassselhof.

"Come see the band that brought you "Broken Arms" and the "Night Rider" on Norwegian Cruise Lines, this month only! Plus, upgrade to a luxury cabin, and receive free oatmeal and dentures for one year!"

And someone please tell me how not liking Eclipse makes one "closed minded". Does that mean I'm "open minded" because I loved Piano With a View and Dream, After Dream?

Let's not go into this topic here now, shall we? :lol:

That said, I'd love to see the band do an album similar sonically to Dream After Dream. Very special album, that is. :twisted:

Website · by **steveo777** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:36 pm

VirgilTheart wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:Another Eclipse, and Journey will be relegated to doing boat shows with Hassselhof.

"Come see the band that brought you "Broken Arms" and the "Night Rider" on Norwegian Cruise Lines, this month only! Plus, upgrade to a luxury cabin, and receive free oatmeal and dentures for one year!"

And someone please tell me how not liking Eclipse makes one "closed minded". Does that mean I'm "open minded" because I loved Piano With a View and Dream, After Dream?

Let's not go into this topic here now, shall we?

That said, I'd love to see the band do an album similar sonically to Dream After Dream. Very special album, that is.

If computers were available when I was your age, I would have usually made such a post after brushing my teeth and wanking to a Farrah Fawcett poster attached to my bedroom wall. :wink:

by **mikemarrs** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:41 pm

After long break from Eclipse......

Bring back Steve(the first one)
Do a live album to get things cooking(Captured II)
Tour to packed places everywhere
Then Re-escape with new material
One more final tour for world domination

by **Pelata** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:21 pm

Since Eclipse isn't performing well in terms of sales, maybe the next album should be Greatest Hits Live 2...maybe put 1 or 2 new songs on it like Mirrorball...

I plan on getting Eclipse this week when I hit Walmart for groceries.

MR

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