2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

General Intelligent Discussion & One Thread About That Buttknuckle

Moderator: Andrew

Postby Enigma869 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:29 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
As for defense, that's true but in today's NFL, you atleast need to have an fluid offense that can move the chains and put up some points and New England is the best at that. Other than Baltimore, who hasn't faced a good offense yet in the league, noone is playing the type of defense in the AFC of championship caliber. Maybe Houston but even they are flawed. Until that happens, New England's 31+ average scoring on offense will simply get it done and mask a bad defense so I like their chances right now because of it. Long season though, somebody better start playing defense somewhere in the AFC not named Baltimore (who hasn't even been tested and when they were, they got scorched by Hasselbeck, who's the most underrated player in the NFL at the moment.)


I couldn't agree with you more. The defense (or lack thereof) has been fucking AWFUL, across the board. Baltimore is the only team I've seen this season that has impressed me even a little, on the defensive side of the ball.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby Seven Wishes2 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:11 pm

NOTHING is as dull as the National Boredom Association. Yawn. I'd rather watch my grandfather play bocce ball with the other 90-something WWII vets at his retirement community center than the NBA.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe."
---Albert Einstein
User avatar
Seven Wishes2
Cassette Tape
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Charlotte, NC

NFL Week 4 Power Rankings

Postby Eric » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:04 am

Eric
Eric
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3934
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2002 12:51 am

Postby mikemarrs » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:28 am

Tennessee at Pittsburgh

Look smashmouth football up in the dictionary and this game will be what you see.

Defense,Defense,Defense.Last year the Steelers forced seven turnovers in a 19-11 win against the Titans.The Titans forced a few turnovers also but not enough.This game will be no different.Team which forces the most turnovers and has the best effort on defense will win.I think this game will be one of those 14-12 or 10-9 type of games.

Steelers O line also always seems to play better facing Tennessee because they know they have to protect Ben at all costs.Sunday will be no different.I think if Redman replaces Mendenhall that will be to the Steelers advantage.I also expect to see Wallace burn the Titans at least once or twice before the game is over.The million dollar question is will Chris Johnson continue to improve or will he stink the joint up like he did early in the season.Also have to wonder if we will finally see a bad game out of Hasselbeck.

If Tennessee plays like they have been playing the last few games and they don't make any mistakes they will be hard to beat especially if both the defense and offense are clicking.Another big question mark is will Big Ben make it out of this game unscathed?
User avatar
mikemarrs
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3346
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:44 pm
Location: Memphis

Postby mikemarrs » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:42 am

Philadelphia at Buffalo.

Anyone else having a hard time figuring this one out? Before the season i would've easily chalked this one up as an Eagles win.Now you have to wonder just what will happen in this game.

Who would've thought months ago that when this game was played Buffalo would be 3-1 and the Eagles would be 1-3.


Eagles have a very tough road ahead with Chicago,Dallas,New England,NY Giants and NY Jets and still have to play a much improved Washington team twice.Not looking good at all for Philly.

Very much in danger there of not making the postseason and perhaps making .500
User avatar
mikemarrs
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3346
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:44 pm
Location: Memphis

Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:57 pm

mikemarrs wrote:Philadelphia at Buffalo.

Anyone else having a hard time figuring this one out?



The Eagles aren't as good as many thought they would be. That said, Buffalo isn't nearly as good as they've looked early in the season. Even though Buffalo presumably had their "let down" against the Bungles, I see the Eagles winning this game.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:17 pm

mikemarrs wrote:Tennessee at Pittsburgh

Look smashmouth football up in the dictionary and this game will be what you see.

Defense,Defense,Defense.Last year the Steelers forced seven turnovers in a 19-11 win against the Titans.The Titans forced a few turnovers also but not enough.This game will be no different.Team which forces the most turnovers and has the best effort on defense will win.I think this game will be one of those 14-12 or 10-9 type of games.

Steelers O line also always seems to play better facing Tennessee because they know they have to protect Ben at all costs.Sunday will be no different.I think if Redman replaces Mendenhall that will be to the Steelers advantage.I also expect to see Wallace burn the Titans at least once or twice before the game is over.The million dollar question is will Chris Johnson continue to improve or will he stink the joint up like he did early in the season.Also have to wonder if we will finally see a bad game out of Hasselbeck.

If Tennessee plays like they have been playing the last few games and they don't make any mistakes they will be hard to beat especially if both the defense and offense are clicking.Another big question mark is will Big Ben make it out of this game unscathed?


The Steelers are a middle of the pack team right now, as is many so called "contenders" through only 4 games (Philly, Atlanta, Dallas, N.Y, etc) so I'm not giving up on this Steelers team to start playing solid. Pittsburgh lost to 2 AFC Contenders, both looking solid (Baltimore and Houston) so the problems can be fixed but they must start against Tenn, at home. They don't have a tough schedule coming up until New England so this is their chance to get it hot-wired and quick-started for rhythm and momentum.

The Steelers are injured, badly on all fronts but they've won hurt before so they must initiate the run game and play sound defense instead of being stuck in the mud. If Pittsburgh plays like they have been, at home then Tennessee will easily have their way with Pittsburgh. If we limit the mistakes/turnovers/sacks and actually get going on offense, we could bounce back quick and take pressure off the D. We'll see. I think Tennessee has a good team. Can't say the same for the Steelers right now.

EDIT: It's now reported that the Steelers starting left guard, Chris Kemoeatu is out for Sunday. So that makes Dough Legursky a go at left guard now, who filled in for Willie Colon when Colon went on IR at right guard but got hurt last week, which led to Ramon Foster taking his spot. Left tackle Jonathan Scott was banged up, meaning the Steelers had to call up a practice squad player in Trai Essex to start at left tackle last week. Rookie right tackle Marcus Gilbert was hurt, left the game against the Colts, but re-entered the same game, but not at right tackle. He took over left tackle for Jonathan Scott and was replaced by... I don't even know anymore. Now, Max Starks, who hasn't played a game of football since November and came to training camp over 400 pounds, worked out with the Steelers, was signed this week and now could start somewhere on the line, either left tackle or right tackle. This is turning into a nighmare for the Steelers.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby Enigma869 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:20 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:The Steelers are a middle of the pack team right now, as is many so called "contenders" through only 4 games (Philly, Atlanta, Dallas, N.Y, etc) so I'm not giving up on this Steelers team to start playing solid. Pittsburgh lost to 2 AFC Contenders, both looking solid (Baltimore and Houston) so the problems can be fixed but they must start against Tenn, at home. They don't have a tough schedule coming up until New England so this is their chance to get it hot-wired and quick-started for rhythm and momentum.

The Steelers are injured, badly on all fronts but they've won hurt before so they must initiate the run game and play sound defense instead of being stuck in the mud. If Pittsburgh plays like they have been, at home then Tennessee will easily have their way with Pittsburgh. If we limit the mistakes/turnovers/sacks and actually get going on offense, we could bounce back quick and take pressure off the D. We'll see. I think Tennessee has a good team. Can't say the same for the Steelers right now.

EDIT: It's now reported that the Steelers starting left guard, Chris Kemoeatu is out for Sunday. So that makes Dough Legursky a go at left guard now, who filled in for Willie Colon when Colon went on IR at right guard but got hurt last week, which led to Ramon Foster taking his spot. Left tackle Jonathan Scott was banged up, meaning the Steelers had to call up a practice squad player in Trai Essex to start at left tackle last week. Rookie right tackle Marcus Gilbert was hurt, left the game against the Colts, but re-entered the same game, but not at right tackle. He took over left tackle for Jonathan Scott and was replaced by... I don't even know anymore. Now, Max Starks, who hasn't played a game of football since November and came to training camp over 400 pounds, worked out with the Steelers, was signed this week and now could start somewhere on the line, either left tackle or right tackle. This is turning into a nighmare for the Steelers.


You disappoint me dude. For years, you were one of the few people on this board who didn't make excuses. Listen, injuries are part of football. Always have been and always will be. The Patriots just lost their best defensive player (Jerod Mayo)for at least the next 6 weeks, but life goes on. The reality is ...The Rapist has been fucking AWFUL this season, the offensive line, notwithstanding. I saw Dan Marino play behind some awful offensive lines, and yet, he still ALWAYS sensed the pressure and got rid of the damn ball. I know it's easier for you to blame EVERYTHING that ails the Steelers on the O-Line, but that's the pussy way out. Ben has more fumbles (4) and more interceptions (5) than he has TD's (3) this season, and he is absolutely accountable for some of it. If guys get hurt, it's time for other guys to step up and play! I will tell you that Pittsburgh's play isn't a surprise to some. I actually heard several football writers say that "Pittsburgh is done", in the off-season. I personally didn't believe it at the time, and still don't. Simply making the point that they have some old guys on that team, so a dropoff wasn't a shock to some.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:30 am

You disappoint me dude. For years, you were one of the few people on this board who didn't make excuses. Listen, injuries are part of football. Always have been and always will be. The Patriots just lost their best defensive player (Jerod Mayo)for at least the next 6 weeks, but life goes on. The reality is ...The Rapist has been fucking AWFUL this season, the offensive line, notwithstanding. I saw Dan Marino play behind some awful offensive lines, and yet, he still ALWAYS sensed the pressure and got rid of the damn ball. I know it's easier for you to blame EVERYTHING that ails the Steelers on the O-Line, but that's the pussy way out. Ben has more fumbles (4) and more interceptions (5) than he has TD's (3) this season, and he is absolutely accountable for some of it. If guys get hurt, it's time for other guys to step up and play! I will tell you that Pittsburgh's play isn't a surprise to some. I actually heard several football writers say that "Pittsburgh is done", in the off-season. I personally didn't believe it at the time, and still don't. Simply making the point that they have some old guys on that team, so a dropoff wasn't a shock to some.


Dude, I'm making NO excuse. Read and comprehend my whole post rather than picking out the one where you want to reply and start an argument with. Just telling it like it is. I just said above
If we limit the mistakes/turnovers/sacks and actually get going on offense, we could bounce back quick and take pressure off the D. We'll see. I think Tennessee has a good team. Can't say the same for the Steelers right now.


The Steelers are a beat up football team and playing like a beat up football team. I'm well aware of that. What part of "the Steelers aren't a good football team" something I've said NUMEROUS times, time and time again does it make it sound like an excuse?

They are a BAD football team for a reason, like the things mentioned above! It's no excuse dude, it's the god damn truth! Not one time did I make an excuse about the Steelers and blame it on just the offensive line. The o-line is a HUGE part in why the offense can't gain a yard and the defense isn't helping out any! Obviously, the whole team is in disarray. Look at the defensive line. The run-defense is giving up a huge amount of yardage, something that's very rare and are getting absolutely DESTROYED one on one. They are losing their battles even when they are in position. Oh wait, I must be making an excuse for pulling out the obvious! :lol:

Difference is, you say "injuries are apart of the game, someone needs to step up!" But look closer. Guys have been stepping up. They are running out of men! lmao. No excuse, just pretty much stating the obvious on HOW we are bad. Taking the "pussy way out" is blaming the ref's for every single play that happened to go against your team that could have "won the team the game" and claiming everything is "fixed." THAT'S the pussy way out, not pointing out what's actually WRONG with your team. Try again.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:26 am

@ mikemarrs:

Injury update for the Steelers. ‎6 Steelers starters out for Sunday. OLB James Harrison, OLB Jason Worlids (Harrison's replacement) NT Casey Hampton, LG Chris Kemoeatu, DE Aaron Smith, RB Mewelde Moore (3rd down back.) RB Rashard Mendenhall is questionable with a hamstring and QB Ben Roethlisberger is probable, limping around practice with a protective boot.

We are going to move MLB Lawrence Timmons from the inside, to take Harrison's OLB spot since Worlids is also out and put Larry Foote in the middle alongside Farrior. With Hampton now out, our run defense is going to suffer even more. Tennessee might take this one.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby mikemarrs » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:02 am

YoungJRNY wrote:@ mikemarrs:

Injury update for the Steelers. ‎6 Steelers starters out for Sunday. OLB James Harrison, OLB Jason Worlids (Harrison's replacement) NT Casey Hampton, LG Chris Kemoeatu, DE Aaron Smith, RB Mewelde Moore (3rd down back.) RB Rashard Mendenhall is questionable with a hamstring and QB Ben Roethlisberger is probable, limping around practice with a protective boot.

We are going to move MLB Lawrence Timmons from the inside, to take Harrison's OLB spot since Worlids is also out and put Larry Foote in the middle alongside Farrior. With Hampton now out, our run defense is going to suffer even more. Tennessee might take this one.




Even with all the injuries mounting and players being shuffled at different positions this Steelers team is still going to bring their best effort and do all they can to win.Still going to be a good game and even with all thats going on with Steelers i expect it to be a very close game.Good luck its going to be a good game.
User avatar
mikemarrs
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3346
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:44 pm
Location: Memphis

Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:49 pm

Not sure why I didn't bring this up before, but on my other boards I go to, I'm involved in an ESPN pick-em, week by week. The ESPN's pickem setup automatically tallies your wins and losses, all you got to do is pick your teams and everything will follow! It's a great, handy tool of what we've been doing. I didn't bring 'em up because me and John only pick but let me know if you guys want me to create a MR league and we can all pick. It'll rank us and everything.

Here's my screen shot of my picks this week to make it easier:

Image
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby Enigma869 » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:17 pm

Tennessee at Pittsburgh - With Hasselbeck playing superbly, and Tennessee's defense playing very well, picking the Titans seems like a slam dunk. At this point, the Steelers appear to be a middle of the road team. That said, they're currently in last place, and I can't believe for a second that they are this bad. It's time for them and their fans to stop making excuses about injuries and to actually show up to play in a game that they absolutely MUST win. Steelers by 7 (and I'm not sure they're capable of beating anyone by more points than that).

Seattle at NY Giants - There are upsets every week in the NFL, but this won't be one of them. Giants by 16.

Cincinnati at Jacksonville - Two teams without a QB. Bengals by 4.

New Orleans at Carolina - Cam Newton will run and throw the ball all over the place and it still won't be enough. Saints by 10.

***UPSET***Oakland at Houston - I love the Raiders to bounce back after a no show against the Patriots last week. Oakland by 7.

Philadelphia at Buffalo - This game perfectly illustrates how unpredictable the NFL is. A last place team against a first place team, and Buffalo is the first place team. I said it earlier in the season when Buffalo was undefeated, and I'll say it again...I'm not buying it, or them! Eagles by 14.

Kansas City at Indianapolis - God help the poor souls who are forced to watch this train wreck of a game. Turn down the sound, because CBS will definitely be rolling out their worse two announcers to cover this debacle. It's probably one of the only chances the Colts have to win a game this season. These are two really bad teams. I think the Chiefs win by 2.

Arizona at Minnesota - Minnesota is proving to be Colts bad this season. I can't see them losing every game. Vikings by 3.

Tampa Bay at San Francisco - Who knew that a battle of 3-1 teams would be Tampa versus San Francisco. Niners by 7.

NY Jets at New England - Wes Welker against Revis. This should be interesting. The Jets clearly aren't as good (at least thusfar) this season as they have been. That said, anyone who thinks the Patriots blows the Jets out doesn't pay attention. The Jets are ALWAYS more juiced up to play the Patriots than any other team in the NFL. While I think Revis can probably shut down the one guy he wants to shut down, I don't the Jets can cover Gronkowski and Hernandez. Not to mention, the Jets aren't very good against the run, so don't be surprised to see New England run the ball. The Jets have lost two games in a row, and they absolutely MUST win this game. Teams that must win are always very difficult to beat and I don't see either of these teams winning both games on the season. Looking forward to seeing the old Patriots uniforms today and watching the Patriots win by a TD.

San Diego at Denver - Bolts by 4.

***UPSET***Green Bay at Atlanta - Green Bay looks unstoppable but if you look a little closer, their defense isn't much better than New England's. Atlanta in the upset by 3.

***UPSET***Chicago at Detroit - Love me some Detroit Lions this season. I have a feeling this may be a week for a letdown for them. Bears by 2.
Last edited by Enigma869 on Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:37 am, edited 2 times in total.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:08 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Not sure why I didn't bring this up before, but on my other boards I go to, I'm involved in an ESPN pick-em, week by week. The ESPN's pickem setup automatically tallies your wins and losses, all you got to do is pick your teams and everything will follow! It's a great, handy tool of what we've been doing. I didn't bring 'em up because me and John only pick but let me know if you guys want me to create a MR league and we can all pick. It'll rank us and everything.

Here's my screen shot of my picks this week to make it easier:

Image


Taking a couple upsets this week:

Bengals by 10 over Jacksonville
Eagles by 10 over Buffalo
Colts by 6 over the Chiefs
Giants by 14 over Seahawks
Saints by 13 over Panthers
Steelers by 7 over Titans
UPSET: Raiders over Texans by 3
Vikings over Cardinals by 7
Buccaneers over 49'ers by 10
Chargers over Broncos by 14
Patriots over Jets by 13
UPSET: Falcons over Packers by 3
Bears over Lions by 10
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby Enigma869 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:17 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Taking a couple upsets this week:

Bengals by 10 over Jacksonville
Eagles by 10 over Buffalo
Colts by 6 over the Chiefs
Giants by 14 over Seahawks
Saints by 13 over Panthers
Steelers by 7 over Titans
UPSET: Raiders over Texans by 3
Vikings over Cardinals by 7
Buccaneers over 49'ers by 10
Chargers over Broncos by 14
Patriots over Jets by 13
UPSET: Falcons over Packers by 3
Bears over Lions by 10


How is your Bears to beat the Lions pick not an upset? You do know that the Lions are undefeated and at home, right?
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:25 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Taking a couple upsets this week:

Bengals by 10 over Jacksonville
Eagles by 10 over Buffalo
Colts by 6 over the Chiefs
Giants by 14 over Seahawks
Saints by 13 over Panthers
Steelers by 7 over Titans
UPSET: Raiders over Texans by 3
Vikings over Cardinals by 7
Buccaneers over 49'ers by 10
Chargers over Broncos by 14
Patriots over Jets by 13
UPSET: Falcons over Packers by 3
Bears over Lions by 10


How is your Bears to beat the Lions pick not an upset? You do know that the Lions are undefeated and at home, right?


I love the Lions, picked them for the 6th seed OVER the Bears in the Wild Card this season but looking over the past couple weeks, even though those comebacks were incredible against the Vikings and Cowboys, great teams don't get into a 20 point hole either and with the kind of defense Chicago plays and with them being one step away from the Super Bowl last season, I don't deem it an upset with Chicago beating Detroit.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby Enigma869 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:34 am

YoungJRNY wrote: I don't deem it an upset with Chicago beating Detroit.


Hmmmmm. Okay Kreskin. The NFL odds makers apparently don't agree with you, given that Detroit is in fact favored to beat Chicago by 5 points.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:36 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote: I don't deem it an upset with Chicago beating Detroit.


Hmmmmm. Okay Kreskin. The NFL odds makers apparently don't agree with you, given that Detroit is in fact favored to beat Chicago by 5 points.


Haha okay, whatever. I don't care who's favored or whatever I just don't see Chicago over Detroit as an upset.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby mikemarrs » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:48 am

Mendenhall out and Redman in for Steelers at RB.
User avatar
mikemarrs
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3346
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:44 pm
Location: Memphis

Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:56 am

mikemarrs wrote:Mendenhall out and Redman in for Steelers at RB.


I'm actually glad. We don't have the offensive line for a runner like Mendenhall at the moment who dances around and wants to hit the home-run every time. Redman is more of a pile-pusher, lower to the ground and hits the hole with his shoulders squared. He's more compact too, kind of like MJD so I'm happy Redman will get more time. Mendenhall should be used as a Reggie Bush type player. Get him out in the open field with Redman running between the tackles.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby Enigma869 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:01 am

mikemarrs wrote:Mendenhall out and Redman in for Steelers at RB.


Not really significant. Mendenhall really isn't that good. The guy currently rank 30th in total rushing yards, 31st in yards per game, and 43rd (there are only 48 running backs on the list) in yards per carry. The Steelers will probably actually improve with this stiff on the bench.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby Enigma869 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:07 am

By the way, if Revis can't shut down Welker today, Jerry Rice better start getting VERY nervous that his single season record for most yards by a WR is going to disappear by about the 12th game of the season.
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:30 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote: I don't deem it an upset with Chicago beating Detroit.


Hmmmmm. Okay Kreskin. The NFL odds makers apparently don't agree with you, given that Detroit is in fact favored to beat Chicago by 5 points.


Haha okay, whatever. I don't care who's favored or whatever I just don't see Chicago over Detroit as an upset.


I agree - the Lions are a much-improved and exciting team. But, I don't buy the 4-0 hype yet. Let's not forget they were down 20-0 to a bad Minnesota team and down big against a mediocre (at best) Dallas team. Yeah, great teams find ways to win. But, the hype surrounding the Lions paints them as a team that has been a dominant juggernaut, and that simply hasn't been the case.

Chicago isn't a perfect team, but they were one game away from the super bowl and have looked decent so far this year (Cutler's sacks aside).
User avatar
Ehwmatt
MP3
 
Posts: 10907
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:15 am
Location: Cleveland, OH

Postby AR » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:46 am

Ravens are on a bye week so I get to enjoy NFL RedZone today.
User avatar
AR
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8530
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:21 am

Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:10 am

Good to see the coaching staff actually have a brain and make some adjustments to give the ball to our play-makers. Bens still hurting (3 Td's) so it's good to see us work on the run game so if this continues on the ground like old-school Steelers football, then Ben needs to sit and rest.
User avatar
YoungJRNY
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 7000
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 am
Location: Krypton

Postby Enigma869 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:10 am

AR wrote: I get to enjoy NFL RedZone today.


The greatest channel ever invented!
John from Boston
User avatar
Enigma869
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7753
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 am
Location: Back In The Civilized Part Of U.S.

Postby AR » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:44 am

Enigma869 wrote:
AR wrote: I get to enjoy NFL RedZone today.


The greatest channel ever invented!


Especially if you are a fantasy football junky like me. :wink:
User avatar
AR
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8530
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:21 am

Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:46 am

AR wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
AR wrote: I get to enjoy NFL RedZone today.


The greatest channel ever invented!


Especially if you are a fantasy football junky like me. :wink:


Fantasy Football...Dungeons and Dragons for people who make fun of people who play Dungeons and Dragons! ;)
User avatar
RossValoryRocks
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3830
Joined: Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:47 pm

Postby AR » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:00 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
AR wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
AR wrote: I get to enjoy NFL RedZone today.


The greatest channel ever invented!


Especially if you are a fantasy football junky like me. :wink:


Fantasy Football...Dungeons and Dragons for people who make fun of people who play Dungeons and Dragons! ;)


I get that, but it's gambling and money for me my friend.
User avatar
AR
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8530
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:21 am

Postby RedWingFan » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:39 am

Huge win by the Raiders today. Came down to the last play. Fitting to have a classic Raiders win today! :D
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
User avatar
RedWingFan
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 7868
Joined: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:37 pm
Location: The Peoples Republic of Michigan

PreviousNext

Return to Snowmobiles For The Sahara

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron