Andrew gets his Steve Perry interview..

[madsplash]

Hey, Froy, have some fun once in a while. All you preach is negativity.

That he does.

Froy and SJ are both banned from commenting on the interview once I post it. I already know their comments.

That's the greatest news I've heard in years.

You rock, Andrew.

[bluejeangirl76]

Just think Sopranos is what started it all for DSB, yet Perry was willing to forego that. I believe Frank and Jesse had already signed, for it appears the James brothers were not concerned about a shootout.

What? No it certainly was not. That song, god help us, has been resurrected many times over to the tune of being named most downloaded song ever on iTunes at least twice (that I recall) and well before the Sopranos. For one thing, it was huge in the 80s when it came out which is WHY they keep bringing it back. I would say THAT is what "started it all" - being one of those songs that people want to keep bringing back... It's shown up in movies and on television shows so many times most of us (fans or not) could puke. What brought it back huge (by which I mean what got people downloading the hell out of it) was a combination of being used by the White Sox in 2005 and showing up on one of those teenagery shows (loons help me out, was it The OC or one of the other ones?) around the same time.

[bluejeangirl76]

LOL at the cranky pants who are already dissing an interview Andrew hasn't even posted yet.

To be fair, if they didn't do that, we'd worry that they had taken ill. It's just par for the MR course.... the same way as the (what is the PC word for "loons" around here?) have proclaimed that they already love it without having read it.

Guys, hold your britches, see what dude man has to say, THEN shred it to ribbons. I mean god, show some decorum!

[Red13JoePa]

Hey, Froy, have some fun once in a while. All you preach is negativity.

That he does.

Froy and SJ are both banned from commenting on the interview once I post it. I already know their comments.

[Red13JoePa]

Anyone notice similarities between the new guy and another Loon? Author something?

Yep, fucked up weird sick twisted charter member of the PSLOA changing names to create psuedo perry support.

[Yoda]

Anyone notice similarities between the new guy and another Loon? Author something?

Yep, fucked up weird sick twisted charter member of the PSLOA changing names to create psuedo perry support.

Ok, excuse my newbie syndrome, but what the heck is PSLOA?

[onmyjrny]

Anyone notice similarities between the new guy and another Loon? Author something?

Yep, fucked up weird sick twisted charter member of the PSLOA changing names to create psuedo perry support.

Ok, excuse my newbie syndrome, but what the heck is PSLOA?

Trust me, you really don't want to know!

[Yoda]

Anyone notice similarities between the new guy and another Loon? Author something?

Yep, fucked up weird sick twisted charter member of the PSLOA changing names to create psuedo perry support.

Ok, excuse my newbie syndrome, but what the heck is PSLOA?

Trust me, you really don't want to know!

[Michigan Girl]

Anyone notice similarities between the new guy and another Loon? Author something?

Yep, fucked up weird sick twisted charter member of the PSLOA changing names to create psuedo perry support.

Ok, excuse my newbie syndrome, but what the heck is PSLOA?

Not sure, but several people have been known to hack back in
after being sent on vaca. Not to name names, but someone, here,
was pretty good at it too, only he liked to create psuedo Perry Bashing in support
of other bashers ...
I call it~fucked up weird twisted charter members of the little dick club!!

[Red13JoePa]

Oh come on. Name names.

[Navarro]

I'm very very happy with it and Steve was very accommodating and a great interview. You won't get answers to every burning question, but I hope there is answers to a few. The interview was to promote GH1&2 and Street Talk, so there were parameters.

My interview would have lasted 5 min. Question 1 why is he the only guy on the planet who say's no to singing with JRNY
Why are there no videos from his era with JRNY when the vault has 200 concerts in it.
Why does he always say he's going to record a new cd when that is an absolute lie.

Well Steve your answers please

Hey Fred, do you think he would even talk to ya???????

Just wondering if Froy, Fred, or whatever his name is, ever smiles. I wouldn't call him the angel of death, but I think he's related.

Hey, Froy, have some fun once in a while. All you preach is negativity.

Just lurking here for a while, I am always blown away by how negative so many (many aren't) are about Perry and Journey. They wrote some timeless music together. Enjoy it and be grateful it exists. There seems to be a real cognitive dissonance for some fans when it comes to SP. The guy was a very large part of writing the classic songs people love, yet he gets bashed. Perry seems to be happy doing his own thing and the rest of the band have moved on with a level of success nobody could have predicted in 1998. I do believe, other than "I never really felt like I was part of the band" statement, continues to handle the situation with class and grace.

[Yoda]

Anyone notice similarities between the new guy and another Loon? Author something?

Yep, fucked up weird sick twisted charter member of the PSLOA changing names to create psuedo perry support.

Ok, excuse my newbie syndrome, but what the heck is PSLOA?

Not sure, but several people have been known to hack back in
after being sent on vaca. Not to name names, but someone, here,
was pretty good at it too, only he liked to create psuedo Perry Bashing in support
of other bashers ...
I call it~fucked up weird twisted charter members of the little dick club!!

I respect a woman who will spell it out for ya!

[Red13JoePa]

There seems to be a real cognitive dissonance for some fans when it comes to SP. The guy was a very large part of writing the classic songs people love, yet he gets bashed.

Oh yea and it's a real love in for Schon, Cain and Pineda here.

[Saint John]

Looking at that 10k bid, does not seem “his memory fading into the sunset” is pending.

Yeah, because one fan, or even a handful, bidding up for the opportunity to talk to Steve Perry really implies that the guy is as popular as ever. Fail.

Self-serving Perry? Maybe you should read those ticket master reviews and direct your concerns elsewhere - "Favorite moment: When Neal Schon stopped playing” and it goes on and on. But surely it could not have been a “15 minute solo” for every song?? Now, that “reeks of a guy with some major misfiring going on between his ears.”

Listen, dummy, try not to comment until you have all of the facts ... or even some of them. I don't think there's been one person on this board more critical of Neal's soloing during this tour. So, again ... fail.

Name one successful Journey album that does not bear the name of Steve Perry.

Fuck, this is easier than killing cockroaches with a flame thrower. I'll name 2. TBF was a complete shit fest. The reunion was predicated on a lie, and the ensuing album cost the label a ton of money. They didn't recoup their cash and the tour never happened. It "shipped" a million and was certified Platinum, but the true number of albums sold didn't sniff a million. Then, we were treated to GH Live ... another shit fest that was rushed, in an attempt to toss out some of the water that the record label was taking on from TBF.

Hell, even ROR was a (relative) failure. 2 million albums for Journey was about 6 months worth of sales back then. While Bon Jovi and Def Leppard were putting out rock albums that moved 10+ million (and each sold 25+ million worldwide), (Steve Perry's 70's) Journey decided that they were going to step back into the 70's and, for the most part, try to sound like George Clinton and Sly And The Family Stone. That hostile takeover saw rock's most popular band sell albums at a mediocre clip. And don't start barking about Top 40 hits, because Herbie already pointed out that those were easily bought. But albums sold were a true barometer of success. Going from 8 million to 2 million because of one member's hostile takeover, never to tour again afterward, seems an awful lot like an album that would have been better served being named "Freedom" and having the band's real members and sound (pop rock) included.

He has a right to be paid; after-all, they’ve been playing the DD he helped create for what - 30 years.

He has a right to, and has always been paid for, mechanical royalties for radio play. Getting paid as a touring member was nothing more than a shameless act of a man with a broken voice.

And, judging by the recent colossal flop (Eclipse), that playing has and will go “on and on.” That sole “COH” was hanging in there by a thread. Is Tapegate what that “class-act” other Steve was party to in misleading the fans? Why blast Perry when one of real culprits is called a “class act?”

Nary an argument with this.

Don’t saddle SP with the band’s deceit.

Bullshit. When you're ok with receiving a check for something you signed off for and/or you should be doing, and it's fraudulent, you're culpable. Period.

It is also “worth mentioning” that Neal and Jon were there and agreed to all. They suited up and went on ROR tour, as happy as two larks. Neal’s band? And, Perry toured but not under the name “Journey” as he had asked the band, and he was entitled to that request.

Where's the vomit bag?!? You act as though he chose to tour under his own name for his solo tour. I'm going to guess that a guy that was willing to fire the world's greatest drummer, the world's greatest manager and a founding member, in Ross Valory, would have also been selfish enough to drag along the "Journey" name on his solo tour ... if he could have.

Also, I don't ever recall Neal or Jon knocking on high school gym doors during the FTLOSM tour asking for an equal cut because they were "entitled to" their share for him predominantly performing Journey songs.

As far as class goes - Steve Perry is the guy that withheld his signature from Sopranos until he was assured of no bloodshed for the song. Just think Sopranos is what started it all for DSB, yet Perry was willing to forego that. I believe Frank and Jesse had already signed, for it appears the James brothers were not concerned about a shootout.

Being concerned about bloodshed on a cable television show about organized crime is about as fucking sane as prohibiting cussing in a whorehouse. This was just another instance of the guy unable to let anything flow freely. Everything has to be extortive in nature. Operating on the level of a semi-retarded grade school kid with the "You have to tell me first!!!" mentality is neither classy nor of sound mind.

[brywool]

Perry gets my utmost respect as a singer (are you kidding?). As a band member though, it's tough to turn a blind eye to the way he stuck it to the band for anyone that's not blinded by how cute he was. I don't see the Schon/Cain camp as sticking it to him by firing him. The guy wouldn't or couldn't work. The rest of the band wanted to work. They moved on without him. They weren't really given a choice and they waited YEARS for Perry. That's what happens, if you're not gonna work, we'll find someone who will... and in the end Perry was paid as a full member by the touring Journey and their new singer, as if Perry were on the road with them doing the shows. That is simply crap. He shoulda got his royalties and that's it. To take an equal paycheck for work he's not doing (regardless of what he'd done in the past with the band- and YEAH he did a lot- no argument) is just indicative of what kind of guy he really is. Was Journey supposed to just wait forever for him? Didn't they wait like 13 years? Come on...

As for tapegate, Neal's wives, the firing of JSS, etc.- the rest of Journey has taken their share of heat from the fans as well. Pineda has also taken a lot of heat as well, much of it simply because he's not you know who, which is garbage. The negative words typed in this forum over Neal outweigh those typed over Perry. Perry's got his own lovefest going on downstairs and if we want to go in and praise him, that's the place. They're up to what, 200 posts now?

[Michigan Girl]

There seems to be a real cognitive dissonance for some fans when it comes to SP. The guy was a very large part of writing the classic songs people love, yet he gets bashed.

Oh yea and it's a real love in for Schon, Cain and Pineda here.

Joepa's right ...
The main difference being that some loons, by showing
their undying devotion/appreciation to Perry, get lumped in with
the loons who like to tear the band down by building
their guy up ...same way with the Pinheads, Wigglers,
Soto Pops ...there's good and bad in all factions of the
fanbase, as in life!!

[JH'sTXfan]

Name one successful Journey album that does not bear the name of Steve Perry.

Fuck, this is easier than killing cockroaches with a flame thrower. I'll name 2. TBF was a complete shit fest. The reunion was predicated on a lie, and the ensuing album cost the label a ton of money. They didn't recoup their cash and the tour never happened. It "shipped" a million and was certified Platinum, but the true number of albums sold didn't sniff a million. Then, we were treated to GH Live ... another shit fest that was rushed, in an attempt to toss out some of the water that the record label was taking on from TBF.

Hell, even ROR was a (relative) failure. 2 million albums for Journey was about 6 months worth of sales back then. While Bon Jovi and Def Leppard were putting out rock albums that moved 10+ million (and each sold 25+ million worldwide), (Steve Perry's 70's) Journey decided that they were going to step back into the 70's and, for the most part, try to sound like George Clinton and Sly And The Family Stone. That hostile takeover saw rock's most popular band sell albums at a mediocre clip. And don't start barking about Top 40 hits, because Herbie already pointed out that those were easily bought. But albums sold were a true barometer of success. Going from 8 million to 2 million because of one member's hostile takeover, never to tour again afterward, seems an awful lot like an album that would have been better served being named "Freedom" and having the band's real members and sound (pop rock) included.

Try rereading his question.

[brywool]

Name one successful Journey album that does not bear the name of Steve Perry.

And For the Love of Strange Medicine sold more albums than Thriller - It's a different time and artists from those years don't do that well period. Nobody can say that if an album came out today with Perry and Journey together that it'd do ANYTHING. By the same token, it could sell millions. We will probably never know.

[Don]

Just for the record, Adele now has 4 million units sold for a single disc release. Eclipse just hit 100k sold for their single disc effort.
Music sales continue their Summer growth spurt after two years of down trending.

[Michigan Girl]

Name one successful Journey album that does not bear the name of Steve Perry.

Fuck, this is easier than killing cockroaches with a flame thrower. I'll name 2. TBF was a complete shit fest. The reunion was predicated on a lie, and the ensuing album cost the label a ton of money. They didn't recoup their cash and the tour never happened. It "shipped" a million and was certified Platinum, but the true number of albums sold didn't sniff a million. Then, we were treated to GH Live ... another shit fest that was rushed, in an attempt to toss out some of the water that the record label was taking on from TBF.

Hell, even ROR was a (relative) failure. 2 million albums for Journey was about 6 months worth of sales back then. While Bon Jovi and Def Leppard were putting out rock albums that moved 10+ million (and each sold 25+ million worldwide), (Steve Perry's 70's) Journey decided that they were going to step back into the 70's and, for the most part, try to sound like George Clinton and Sly And The Family Stone. That hostile takeover saw rock's most popular band sell albums at a mediocre clip. And don't start barking about Top 40 hits, because Herbie already pointed out that those were easily bought. But albums sold were a true barometer of success. Going from 8 million to 2 million because of one member's hostile takeover, never to tour again afterward, seems an awful lot like an album that would have been better served being named "Freedom" and having the band's real members and sound (pop rock) included.

Try rereading his question.

May I?!? There is not one in existence.
Even Arnel's personal fan base, and that is HUGE mind you, could not save Eclipse,
having no Perry touch/name anywhere!!

[brywool]

Just for the record, Adele now has 4 million units sold for a single disc release. Eclipse just hit 100k sold for their single disc effort.
Music sales continue their Summer growth spurt after two years of down trending.

But Adele has major support behind her. I don't see that from Journey's camp. In fact, by all accounts it seems the promo department completely lost the plot.

[Yoda]

There seems to be a real cognitive dissonance for some fans when it comes to SP. The guy was a very large part of writing the classic songs people love, yet he gets bashed.

Oh yea and it's a real love in for Schon, Cain and Pineda here.

Joepa's right ...
The main difference being that some loons, by showing
their undying devotion/appreciation to Perry, get lumped in with
the loons who like to tear the band down by building
their guy up ...same way with the Pinheads, Wigglers,
Soto Pops ...there's good and bad in all factions of the
fanbase, as in life!!

Pinheads, Wigglers, and Soto Pops! That is just awesome! MG, you are on a roll today girl!

I'll echo what MG has said. I think when one feels the need to tear down the other to validate their "allegiance" toward Perry or the band - one tends to lose a lot of credibility, no matter how good his/her theory may sound. Heroes become villains every day. They do so because us fans want to feel we're "within the family". I have never understood that. I love the music of Journey, and I'm always interested in knowing what each member is up to - past or present - in regards to their career. But, I don't want to be a part of the "family" unless I'm actually in the band or employed by the band. Then, I just want to know enough in order to do my job correctly. As a fan, I just want to know if there will be new music or projects and if the band/singer is touring close by. I can care less who supposedly fired everybody, can't sing anymore, can't speak English, and who has been married several times. I don't like the personal stuff.

[Michigan Girl]

There seems to be a real cognitive dissonance for some fans when it comes to SP. The guy was a very large part of writing the classic songs people love, yet he gets bashed.

Oh yea and it's a real love in for Schon, Cain and Pineda here.

Joepa's right ...
The main difference being that some loons, by showing
their undying devotion/appreciation to Perry, get lumped in with
the loons who like to tear the band down by building
their guy up ...same way with the Pinheads, Wigglers,
Soto Pops ...there's good and bad in all factions of the
fanbase, as in life!!

Pinheads, Wigglers, and Soto Pops! That is just awesome! MG, you are on a roll today girl!

lol ...I'm just repeating what others created, Yoda ...I absolutely did not know I
was a loon until I joined!!

[Don]

Just for the record, Adele now has 4 million units sold for a single disc release. Eclipse just hit 100k sold for their single disc effort.
Music sales continue their Summer growth spurt after two years of down trending.

But Adele has major support behind her. I don't see that from Journey's camp. In fact, by all accounts it seems the promo department completely lost the plot.

The chic has twice canceled her tour but the album continues to sell 100k a week. Journey had iTunes And Amazon on board with the Eclipse release, something that Revelation didn't have and still couldn't move product. Them just blowing it promotion wise was as big a reason for failure as any changes in the music market.

I think its pretty safe to say that Nomota thought the DSB factor was gonna be a big help and it was.. for the tour. At retail though, when you don't even promote the two largest music sellers in the country as selling your product, you are going to have issues (and no, Wal-Mart is not one of those two).

[Yoda]

There seems to be a real cognitive dissonance for some fans when it comes to SP. The guy was a very large part of writing the classic songs people love, yet he gets bashed.

Oh yea and it's a real love in for Schon, Cain and Pineda here.

Joepa's right ...
The main difference being that some loons, by showing
their undying devotion/appreciation to Perry, get lumped in with
the loons who like to tear the band down by building
their guy up ...same way with the Pinheads, Wigglers,
Soto Pops ...there's good and bad in all factions of the
fanbase, as in life!!

Pinheads, Wigglers, and Soto Pops! That is just awesome! MG, you are on a roll today girl!

lol ...I'm just repeating what others created, Yoda ...I absolutely did not know I
was a loon until I joined!!

So, a loon is a Perry fan. A Soto Pop is a JSS fan, and a pinhead is an Arnel Pineda fan. I guess that leaves a "wiggler" a Steve Augeri fan, but I'm not sure how those fans got that name? I would have assumed something like an Augerian or something like that! So, if you're a fan of all of the above, what do you call those people? Impartial?

[brywool]

Just for the record, Adele now has 4 million units sold for a single disc release. Eclipse just hit 100k sold for their single disc effort.
Music sales continue their Summer growth spurt after two years of down trending.

But Adele has major support behind her. I don't see that from Journey's camp. In fact, by all accounts it seems the promo department completely lost the plot.

The chic has twice canceled her tour but the album continues to sell 100k a week.

Yup and it's played constantly on the radio. That doesn't happen without big promotion. Radio stations don't play stuff cuz people request it. That went out in the 70s. They do it because they've been told to or paid to.

Journey had iTunes And Amazon on board with the Eclipse release, something that Revelation didn't have and still couldn't move product. Them just blowing it promotion wise was as big a reason for failure as any changes in the music market.

Totally. If I remember correctly, Journey NEVER promoted the whole Amazon or Itunes things. They just kept saying "Walmart, Walmart, Walmart". WHY did they do that?

I think its pretty safe to say that Nomota thought the DSB factor was gonna be a big help and it was.. for the tour. At retail though, when you don't even promote the two largest music sellers in the country as selling your product, you are going to have issues (and no, Wal-Mart is not one of those two).

Exactly. There HAD to have been some reason that wasn't done. Maybe a stip in the Walmart deal? That thing made no sense.

[Yoda]

Just for the record, Adele now has 4 million units sold for a single disc release. Eclipse just hit 100k sold for their single disc effort.
Music sales continue their Summer growth spurt after two years of down trending.

But Adele has major support behind her. I don't see that from Journey's camp. In fact, by all accounts it seems the promo department completely lost the plot.

The chic has twice canceled her tour but the album continues to sell 100k a week. Journey had iTunes And Amazon on board with the Eclipse release, something that Revelation didn't have and still couldn't move product. Them just blowing it promotion wise was as big a reason for failure as any changes in the music market.

I think its pretty safe to say that Nomota thought the DSB factor was gonna be a big help and it was.. for the tour. At retail though, when you don't even promote the two largest music sellers in the country as selling your product, you are going to have issues (and no, Wal-Mart is not one of those two).

Adele gets played often on the top 40 stations, which are the stations that the majority of radio listeners tune into. Most of those listeners are youngin's, and while I don't have hardcore stats to support this, I would dare say most of those top 40 listeners are between the ages of 15 and 25 years old. And I would dare to say they are the ones who spend the most money on new music. Not many of those listeners are going to tune into an AC station unless they work in a grocery store or drug store. Those stations are the only ones where any new music from these bands have been played. Even those stations have played bands like Journey or Foreigner very sparingly. With that said, I still believe the ultimate promotion a band can ever have with new music is to have their stuff played on a top 40 station in regular rotation. If Journey was getting played like that on top 40 radio, I believe Eclipse would have sold a lot more.

[RedWingFan]

Just for the record, Adele now has 4 million units sold for a single disc release. Eclipse just hit 100k sold for their single disc effort.
Music sales continue their Summer growth spurt after two years of down trending.

Apparently this "Adele" character didn't record and release the cd "that Neil wanted to release."

Wonder if "Adele" cares about getting airplay? Maybe he or she has a greater marketing sense than a fruit fly.

[Michigan Girl]

lol ...I'm just repeating what others created, Yoda ...I absolutely did not know I
was a loon until I joined!!

So, a loon is a Perry fan. A Soto Pop is a JSS fan, and a pinhead is an Arnel Pineda fan. I guess that leaves a "wiggler" a Steve Augeri fan, but I'm not sure how those fans got that name? I would have assumed something like an Augerian or something like that! So, if you're a fan of all of the above, what do you call those people? Impartial?

Someone may have to correct me, but ~
Loon came from a beautiful duck called a Perry Loon.
I feel certain that whomever attached the Perry Loon to the Perry Loons did so
because they are all beautiful, thin and a joy to be around!!

Wigglers are indeed Augeri Fans and I'm certain that is because
SA and his fans have a cute little wiggle when they walk, talk and/or
sing ...they can't help it.

Soto Pops are carbonated and full of life, they will fuckin explode
if you shake them up!!

Pinheads have very small brains, thus the need for a smaller head ...

[Saint John]

Name one successful Journey album that does not bear the name of Steve Perry.

Fuck, this is easier than killing cockroaches with a flame thrower. I'll name 2. TBF was a complete shit fest. The reunion was predicated on a lie, and the ensuing album cost the label a ton of money. They didn't recoup their cash and the tour never happened. It "shipped" a million and was certified Platinum, but the true number of albums sold didn't sniff a million. Then, we were treated to GH Live ... another shit fest that was rushed, in an attempt to toss out some of the water that the record label was taking on from TBF.

Hell, even ROR was a (relative) failure. 2 million albums for Journey was about 6 months worth of sales back then. While Bon Jovi and Def Leppard were putting out rock albums that moved 10+ million (and each sold 25+ million worldwide), (Steve Perry's 70's) Journey decided that they were going to step back into the 70's and, for the most part, try to sound like George Clinton and Sly And The Family Stone. That hostile takeover saw rock's most popular band sell albums at a mediocre clip. And don't start barking about Top 40 hits, because Herbie already pointed out that those were easily bought. But albums sold were a true barometer of success. Going from 8 million to 2 million because of one member's hostile takeover, never to tour again afterward, seems an awful lot like an album that would have been better served being named "Freedom" and having the band's real members and sound (pop rock) included.

Try rereading his question.

Epic failure on my part!

Regardless, the point stands that there were failures with him in the band (TBF, GH Live and to a lesser degree, ROR), as there were with his last 2 solo efforts ... one of which was so bad that the label scrapped it. There is a direct correlation with his declining voice, his mandated change of direction and their album sales. Just as there are with that declining voice and the advanced attempts to destroy the band (removal of members, removal of the manager, restructuring a viable Chalfant/Rolie touring lineup, which was predicated on a lie about touring). Much like Tapegate, hardly "classy" moments at all. But, hey, there was no blood spilled in the waning moments of The Soprano's!