2004 Journey Detour Concert now on YouTube

[kgdjpubs]

I wonder if there are any live boots of Tall Stories back in the day? It would be interesting to hear Steve live in his youth and prime, because I think you are probably right about him and technique.

Not sure about audio, but I know of one live video out there taken towards the end of the band. Not the best quality unfortunately.

[Majestic]

I wonder if there are any live boots of Tall Stories back in the day? It would be interesting to hear Steve live in his youth and prime, because I think you are probably right about him and technique.

Not sure about audio, but I know of one live video out there taken towards the end of the band. Not the best quality unfortunately.

It would still be interesting... do you happen to have a link?

[YoungJRNY]

TNC telling it like it is. Look, I love Augeri, thought he was a good fit in the band in the earlier years and made up for his vocal inconsistencies with a professional and very kind attitude and the kind of vibe he gave off. But SHML is absolute identical vocals. For one to actually view the other boots then all of a sudden, view the SHML vid and not notice the differences in style, pitch, and natural voice versus a cleaned up studio version of one's voice is just beyond debate. It's not worth it when someone is in such denial that they have the two tracks identical in front of them, but can't find to spot and point out the obvious issues of a different sounding pitch from live Steve A and studio Steve A. It's practically night and day in how he even sounds to the basic of ears.

TNC hit it on the head. His vocal capabilities has him squirming in one video but the SHML, he's in perfect sound, pitch and doesn't flub once, coming from a singer where his voice cracks on a constant basis. Hard to believe people still defend Tapegate.

[YoungJRNY]

I just re-watched the SW vid and it has my asshole bleeding. Man, Steve is struggling immensely here. It's almost like I'm wincing so hard that I'm HOPING he just walks off stage givin how he's obviously having a hard time with hitting the necessary notes. He actually looks like he's in pain and he's just giving it all that he can just to make it through the song. Anyone else's throat hurt after watching it?

[kgdjpubs]

I wonder if there are any live boots of Tall Stories back in the day? It would be interesting to hear Steve live in his youth and prime, because I think you are probably right about him and technique.

Not sure about audio, but I know of one live video out there taken towards the end of the band. Not the best quality unfortunately.

It would still be interesting... do you happen to have a link?

it's not online to my knowledge. It IS on a dvd upstairs however that I ripped off a vhs of something less than 1st generation.

[Majestic]

TNC telling it like it is. Look, I love Augeri, thought he was a good fit in the band in the earlier years and made up for his vocal inconsistencies with a professional and very kind attitude and the kind of vibe he gave off. But SHML is absolute identical vocals. For one to actually view the other boots then all of a sudden, view the SHML vid and not notice the differences in style, pitch, and natural voice versus a cleaned up studio version of one's voice is just beyond debate. It's not worth it when someone is in such denial that they have the two tracks identical in front of them, but can't find to spot and point out the obvious issues of a different sounding pitch from live Steve A and studio Steve A. It's practically night and day in how he even sounds to the basic of ears.

TNC hit it on the head. His vocal capabilities has him squirming in one video but the SHML, he's in perfect sound, pitch and doesn't flub once, coming from a singer where his voice cracks on a constant basis. Hard to believe people still defend Tapegate.

Who is defending tage gate? Surely not me. I think the SHML on the 2004 sounds a bit rough and I don't like to hear it. On the 2001 DVD I find it a fair rendition, and like it OK. If they are both the same to you, I don't know what to say. I'm not defending anything or anyone, except my ears.

[JRNYMAN]

TNC telling it like it is. Look, I love Augeri, thought he was a good fit in the band in the earlier years and made up for his vocal inconsistencies with a professional and very kind attitude and the kind of vibe he gave off. But SHML is absolute identical vocals. For one to actually view the other boots then all of a sudden, view the SHML vid and not notice the differences in style, pitch, and natural voice versus a cleaned up studio version of one's voice is just beyond debate. It's not worth it when someone is in such denial that they have the two tracks identical in front of them, but can't find to spot and point out the obvious issues of a different sounding pitch from live Steve A and studio Steve A. It's practically night and day in how he even sounds to the basic of ears.

TNC hit it on the head. His vocal capabilities has him squirming in one video but the SHML, he's in perfect sound, pitch and doesn't flub once, coming from a singer where his voice cracks on a constant basis. Hard to believe people still defend Tapegate.

Who is defending tage gate? Surely not me. I think the SHML on the 2004 sounds a bit rough and I don't like to hear it. On the 2001 DVD I find it a fair rendition, and like it OK. If they are both the same to you, I don't know what to say. I'm not defending anything or anyone, except my ears.

After reading this thread, I had to prove it to myself - one way or the other - and after loading the audio from both performances into a fairly decent audio program which includes display options for the output (LED's, floating graphs, etc.) and listening to them play simultaneously while watching the meters, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the vox on SHML is indeed one recording being used for both performances. They are IDENTICAL. The interesting thing to note is that while watching the meters the music of course being two separate recordings or audio files played one atop the other, you can clearly see the differences in the deliveries by the respective band members. Some just slightly and some widely varying but clearly different performances of the same song. Stevie's portion I'm afraid... not so much. Not even a little bit. The biggest culprit in his variance and delivery..... Jon. Many subtle nuances in his fingering and addition of a triplet here or a longer-held chord there....
I guess being a keyboard player myself and knowing that Jon wrote almost every note of that particular song, I would have thought he would have stayed truer to the way he wrote it.