Journey’s Neal Schon Recalls The Rise Of Eddie Van Halen And

[RedWingFan]

We'll agree to disagree. Just telling you what the other guys say who also know their music and don't happen to hate his guts {publicly anyways}.

I respect your opinion.

You must not remember that he stated that "Eclipse" was Journey's best album.

[Gideon]

We'll agree to disagree. Just telling you what the other guys say who also know their music and don't happen to hate his guts {publicly anyways}.

I respect your opinion.

You must not remember that he stated that "Eclipse" was Journey's best album.

Don't be jealous of my obviously superior musical taste.

[AR]

We'll agree to disagree. Just telling you what the other guys say who also know their music and don't happen to hate his guts {publicly anyways}.

I respect your opinion.

You must not remember that he stated that "Eclipse" was Journey's best album.

Don't be jealous of my obviously superior musical taste.

Very well my friend.

[Gideon]

Just kidding.
I defer to your judgment here, since by all accounts you've been to more rock concerts than anyone in the history of time perhaps bar Rip.

[slucero]

I am familiar with both Yngwie and Gilbert. I understand and can play all of these techniques. I don't believe Neal is as accurate or clean as either one of these players. Both Yngwie's and Paul's use of these techniques and musical approach/language is considerably different than Neal's. I think it is a stretch to compare Neal's shredding ability either one of these guys. All that said I would rather listen to Neal than Paul or Yngwie. I think they play Yngwie CDs down in Guantanamo bay to get the terrorists talking! I don't know Neal personally so I won't judge him. I would love to hear you play sometime!

Yer correct.. Neal isn't as clean as Yngwie... although I see Gilbert playing much more similar to Schon' in that Gilbert blends all picking styles too...

I'm no shredder... while I was taught how, I wasn't interested in putting in the time to develop those skills.. I was more interested in songwriting... sp I morphed from an 80's player into Tom Petty... lmao.. but I can totally appreciate the skill required.

If there was one guitarist from the 80's who I was in total awe of (besides all t he traditional heroes) .. it was Jason Becker.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK978921Yw fluid, fast...


I think we both Agree that Schons' strong suit is sticking to soloing with melody and phrasing... with the occasional burst of speed.. and leaving the shredding alone.. it just doesn't fit with Journey..

[AR]

Just kidding.
I defer to your judgment here, since by all accounts you've been to more rock concerts than anyone in the history of time perhaps bar Rip.

I have but it doesn't make your opinion any less relevant.

[annie89509]

Eh...I believe Neal has said (more than once) that he would be selling ladies shoes if he didn't make it in a band .

As for Navarro and Slucero difference of views regarding Neal's axe work, it was all greek to me. I propose each post a clip of his playing here, so we can decide which guy has more musical credibility .

[Deb]

I am familiar with both Yngwie and Gilbert. I understand and can play all of these techniques. I don't believe Neal is as accurate or clean as either one of these players. Both Yngwie's and Paul's use of these techniques and musical approach/language is considerably different than Neal's. I think it is a stretch to compare Neal's shredding ability either one of these guys. All that said I would rather listen to Neal than Paul or Yngwie. I think they play Yngwie CDs down in Guantanamo bay to get the terrorists talking! I don't know Neal personally so I won't judge him. I would love to hear you play sometime!

Used to be the case for me too until I delved more into Paul's playing. I always knew he was technically better than Schon but always thought Schon was a more feeling player than Gilbert.......just as I thought Kotzen (solo work) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_b8mjOVUs was a more feeling player than Gilbert. But by gawd PG can play some sweet sweet guitar when he wants to too. One extremely talented dude! The terms/technicalities of guitar are all greek to me too Annie, I just go by what I hear/like.

[Navarro]

Eh...I believe Neal has said (more than once) that he would be selling ladies shoes if he didn't make it in a band .

As for Navarro and Slucero difference of views regarding Neal's axe work, it was all greek to me. I propose each post a clip of his playing here, so we can decide which guy has more musical credibility .

I already have, I posted my classical guitar arrangement of Separate Ways here. Slucero seems like a cool guy. I'm not into pissing contests. There are 15 other videos to watch at my YouTube channel as well. I am going to try to video my Open Arms arrangement this week.

[Navarro]

I am familiar with both Yngwie and Gilbert. I understand and can play all of these techniques. I don't believe Neal is as accurate or clean as either one of these players. Both Yngwie's and Paul's use of these techniques and musical approach/language is considerably different than Neal's. I think it is a stretch to compare Neal's shredding ability either one of these guys. All that said I would rather listen to Neal than Paul or Yngwie. I think they play Yngwie CDs down in Guantanamo bay to get the terrorists talking! I don't know Neal personally so I won't judge him. I would love to hear you play sometime!

Used to be the case for me too until I delved more into Paul's playing. I always knew he was technically better than Schon but always thought Schon was a more feeling player than Gilbert.......just as I thought Kotzen (solo work) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_b8mjOVUs was a more feeling player than Gilbert. But by gawd PG can play some sweet sweet guitar when he wants to too. One extremely talented dude! The terms/technicalities of guitar are all greek to me too Annie, I just go by what I hear/like.

Paul is a great electric guitar player. Period. I would rather listen to Neal, but Paul is simply a better player. He is a great rock musician.

[slucero]

Eh...I believe Neal has said (more than once) that he would be selling ladies shoes if he didn't make it in a band .

As for Navarro and Slucero difference of views regarding Neal's axe work, it was all greek to me. I propose each post a clip of his playing here, so we can decide which guy has more musical credibility .

I already have, I posted my classical guitar arrangement of Separate Ways here. Slucero seems like a cool guy. I'm not into pissing contests. There are 15 other videos to watch at my YouTube channel as well. I am going to try to video my Open Arms arrangement this week.

I'll freely admit I'm well past the point of being able to do any of the playing I did in the 80's.. shredding just wasn't my thing... I'm a vox AC30, jangle pop kinda player now... besides, musical cred has nothing to do with playing ability...

Ya I'm not into pissing contests either.. maybe we could post vids of our tits... if Annie posts picks of her tits... then we can see who has more mammary cred...

Nav whats your YT nick?

[Navarro]

Eh...I believe Neal has said (more than once) that he would be selling ladies shoes if he didn't make it in a band .

As for Navarro and Slucero difference of views regarding Neal's axe work, it was all greek to me. I propose each post a clip of his playing here, so we can decide which guy has more musical credibility .

I already have, I posted my classical guitar arrangement of Separate Ways here. Slucero seems like a cool guy. I'm not into pissing contests. There are 15 other videos to watch at my YouTube channel as well. I am going to try to video my Open Arms arrangement this week.

I'll freely admit I'm well past the point of being able to do any of the playing I did in the 80's.. shredding just wasn't my thing... I'm a vox AC30, jangle pop kinda player now... besides, musical cred has nothing to do with playing ability...

Ya I'm not into pissing contests either.. maybe we could post vids of our tits... if Annie posts picks of her tits... then we can see who has more mammary cred...

Nav whats your YT nick?

http://m.youtube.com/user/TheDouglasSet ... =mv-google

[annie89509]

I am familiar with both Yngwie and Gilbert. I understand and can play all of these techniques. I don't believe Neal is as accurate or clean as either one of these players. Both Yngwie's and Paul's use of these techniques and musical approach/language is considerably different than Neal's. I think it is a stretch to compare Neal's shredding ability either one of these guys. All that said I would rather listen to Neal than Paul or Yngwie. I think they play Yngwie CDs down in Guantanamo bay to get the terrorists talking! I don't know Neal personally so I won't judge him. I would love to hear you play sometime!

Used to be the case for me too until I delved more into Paul's playing. I always knew he was technically better than Schon but always thought Schon was a more feeling player than Gilbert.......just as I thought Kotzen (solo work) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_b8mjOVUs was a more feeling player than Gilbert. But by gawd PG can play some sweet sweet guitar when he wants to too. One extremely talented dude! The terms/technicalities of guitar are all greek to me too Annie, I just go by what I hear/like.

Yeah, me too, Deb. All these technical guys here.... geez

Slu... ...I am much too old to be exposing my tits...nowadays, especially after having had 3 boys sucked on breast milk, these babies sag rather than plumb...but, I'll have you know in my day...well, you'll have to use your imagination...or, remember Don's previous avatar of the petite lady in the Hawaiian outfit?....I used to look like that....

Nav...you're very talented!

[Deb]

Since there is some more guitar tech people here, I asked this question once before but not sure I got a definitive answer or if there is one? I really like this more crunchy guitar sound and wondering how they get that...... (examples of the sound I'm talking about in these 2 songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHVkJ1wVFM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etH10e2Z45c )

Is it a pedal they are using or the guitar or a way of playing or what?

[Arkansas]

David Coverdale used to describe how he liked Whitesnake guitars to be 'crunchy'. Heard an interview way back when, where he was talking about the recording process. Said during the final mixes & mastering, they'd go back in "and add a little more crunch" to the guitars. Never said how he did it, or what they did. He just used the word a few times.


later~

[yulog]

ED is crying for attention. He never gets any respect from his peers and is never mentioned in any top list of players. (unless of course he's pushing it on his own)

Deservedly so. Just like the imp on Game of Thrones.

fixed it for you

[Navarro]

Since there is some more guitar tech people here, I asked this question once before but not sure I got a definitive answer or if there is one? I really like this more crunchy guitar sound and wondering how they get that...... (examples of the sound I'm talking about in these 2 songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHVkJ1wVFM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etH10e2Z45c )

Is it a pedal they are using or the guitar or a way of playing or what?

The sound is just distortion with heavy gain and overdrive plus a guitar with "hot" pick ups. I love this Mr. Big tune. Paul and Billy are GREAT! The singer isn't bad either! Reminds me of the year I graduated from high school. The riff is just your basic rock G pentatonic sound (the solo etc., doesn't stay there, it is mostly the relative minor, e) with power chords (5ths and 4ths).

[Deb]

Since there is some more guitar tech people here, I asked this question once before but not sure I got a definitive answer or if there is one? I really like this more crunchy guitar sound and wondering how they get that...... (examples of the sound I'm talking about in these 2 songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHVkJ1wVFM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etH10e2Z45c )

Is it a pedal they are using or the guitar or a way of playing or what?

The sound is just distortion with heavy gain and overdrive plus a guitar with "hot" pick ups. I love this Mr. Big tune. Paul and Billy are GREAT! The singer isn't bad either! Reminds me of the year I graduated from high school. The riff is just your basic rock pentatonic sound (the solo etc., does stay there, it is mostly minor) with power chords (5ths and 4ths).

Being a big EM fan.......if somebody would have told me even 5 years ago that I'd be seeing my Big boys re-united & performing LIVE and from just a few feet away, LOL I would have told them they were high. Watching those masters at work together LIVE is one hell of a great music experience. Watching a Billy and Paul solo was amusing as hell.......while standing there you look around and everybody else is just as mesmirized and awestruck as you. Even if you're not much of an MB fan to start, if you get the chance to see them LIVE, you will leave as one. LOL was so wrapped up in it all, I had one hell of a time even trying to capture this vid last year......they're simply an amazing LIVE rock band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CR69HafX94

Pardon my denseness when it comes to guitars, is distortion and tone coming from a pedal then.....or what? Layman's terms please.

[Navarro]

Since there is some more guitar tech people here, I asked this question once before but not sure I got a definitive answer or if there is one? I really like this more crunchy guitar sound and wondering how they get that...... (examples of the sound I'm talking about in these 2 songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHVkJ1wVFM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etH10e2Z45c )

Is it a pedal they are using or the guitar or a way of playing or what?

The sound is just distortion with heavy gain and overdrive plus a guitar with "hot" pick ups. I love this Mr. Big tune. Paul and Billy are GREAT! The singer isn't bad either! Reminds me of the year I graduated from high school. The riff is just your basic rock pentatonic sound (the solo etc., does stay there, it is mostly minor) with power chords (5ths and 4ths).

Being a big EM fan.......if somebody would have told me even 5 years ago that I'd be seeing my Big boys re-united & performing LIVE and from just a few feet away, LOL I would have told them they were high. Watching those masters at work together LIVE is one hell of a great music experience. Watching a Billy and Paul solo was amusing as hell.......while standing there you look around and everybody else is just as mesmirized and awestruck as you. Even if you're not much of an MB fan to start, if you get the chance to see them LIVE, you will leave as one. LOL was so wrapped up in it all, I had one hell of a time even trying to capture this vid last year......they're simply an amazing LIVE rock band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CR69HafX94

Pardon my denseness when it comes to guitars, is distortion and tone coming from a pedal then.....or what? Layman's terms please.

Distortion can come from a pedal (you can buy a pedal to give you something close to this sound), sometimes, like on modeling amps, you can choose your type of distortion built in to the amp. Someone as rich as Paul probably uses a "rack" system, the highest quality of effects (I think Neal uses Fractal Axe FX). The pick ups in the guitar can also deeply effect the distortion and overall sound of the guitar. There are a number of factors that go into producing a great sound. Sound is truly in the hands. Back in the day, distortion was achieved by just turning the amp up as loud as it would go! And yes, I am sure a live Mr Big show is unreal!