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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:59 am

Concerts aren't really my thing, but I will go if my significant other wants to go, and so far she's not wanted to go to Journey. She's primarily a Def Kitty and Runs & Goses fan.
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Postby slucero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:04 am

Jeremey wrote:I wonder if Arnel has yet been taught one of the principal Schon Rules of Fatherhood, imparted to me driving down the freeway in Neal's 500 SL, "a baby doesn't really need their dad until they're at least 4 or 5 years old anyways!" Or when I asked if I could fly back home to see my family during the off weeks of the tour or have my family come out to see me if we had a few days off, and Jon Cain said, as though he was explaining something very icky, "Sure, I mean you can go home or they can come out and visit or whatever, but....I mean, we can't have a baby on the tour bus or anything."

Luckily for Arnel, all of the unfounded fears that Schon and his nut job at the time imparted on me all pretty much came to fruition with Arnel, yet since they weren't evident until they were already on tour with the guy, there wasn't really anything they could do. And that my friends is today's lesson in irony and poetic justice. 8)



I can just see you grinning as you write this... :lol:

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:10 am

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Jeremey wrote:I wonder if Arnel has yet been taught one of the principal Schon Rules of Fatherhood, imparted to me driving down the freeway in Neal's 500 SL, "a baby doesn't really need their dad until they're at least 4 or 5 years old anyways!" Or when I asked if I could fly back home to see my family during the off weeks of the tour or have my family come out to see me if we had a few days off, and Jon Cain said, as though he was explaining something very icky, "Sure, I mean you can go home or they can come out and visit or whatever, but....I mean, we can't have a baby on the tour bus or anything."

Luckily for Arnel, all of the unfounded fears that Schon and his nut job at the time imparted on me all pretty much came to fruition with Arnel, yet since they weren't evident until they were already on tour with the guy, there wasn't really anything they could do. And that my friends is today's lesson in irony and poetic justice. 8)



I can just see you grinning as you write this... :lol:


Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?
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Postby Don » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:18 am

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slucero wrote:
Jeremey wrote:I wonder if Arnel has yet been taught one of the principal Schon Rules of Fatherhood, imparted to me driving down the freeway in Neal's 500 SL, "a baby doesn't really need their dad until they're at least 4 or 5 years old anyways!" Or when I asked if I could fly back home to see my family during the off weeks of the tour or have my family come out to see me if we had a few days off, and Jon Cain said, as though he was explaining something very icky, "Sure, I mean you can go home or they can come out and visit or whatever, but....I mean, we can't have a baby on the tour bus or anything."

Luckily for Arnel, all of the unfounded fears that Schon and his nut job at the time imparted on me all pretty much came to fruition with Arnel, yet since they weren't evident until they were already on tour with the guy, there wasn't really anything they could do. And that my friends is today's lesson in irony and poetic justice. 8)



I can just see you grinning as you write this... :lol:


Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?


I don't see it as bitching, as much as highlighting the irony of the situation and how Journey's affirmative action hiring made the band lower the bar in terms of things they initially didn't want to acquiesce to.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:26 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?



I know, right? :lol:
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Postby slucero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:28 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
Jeremey wrote:I wonder if Arnel has yet been taught one of the principal Schon Rules of Fatherhood, imparted to me driving down the freeway in Neal's 500 SL, "a baby doesn't really need their dad until they're at least 4 or 5 years old anyways!" Or when I asked if I could fly back home to see my family during the off weeks of the tour or have my family come out to see me if we had a few days off, and Jon Cain said, as though he was explaining something very icky, "Sure, I mean you can go home or they can come out and visit or whatever, but....I mean, we can't have a baby on the tour bus or anything."

Luckily for Arnel, all of the unfounded fears that Schon and his nut job at the time imparted on me all pretty much came to fruition with Arnel, yet since they weren't evident until they were already on tour with the guy, there wasn't really anything they could do. And that my friends is today's lesson in irony and poetic justice. 8)



I can just see you grinning as you write this... :lol:


Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?



once again Sushi.. you look right past the perspective of someone "who was there" and assume your perspective is the more accurate one.. :roll:

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Postby Don » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:36 am

Sushi is a talking about Arnel, right?
Since Pineda has been in the band, Journey has to had bring his family with them, lower the songs down and limit the amount of shows they do every week, less their singer gets too tired. In all actuality, they hired a guy who couldn't really handle quite a few of the initial employment requirements it seems.

Isn't that what you were trying to say, Sush?
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:49 am

I don't think I'm looking past anything. What has been said in regards to what the job demands is pretty cut and dry. It's common place in that line of business for such demands. The band and Schon run a tight shift and have a set of demands that must be met by whomever is to take that position. People across the nation throughout history have had to make such decisions on the job or the family and which one comes first and which ones come next. Likewise this is probably the most listed reasons for divorce as well.

When I was a teen, I met a famous blues guitarist/singer and I told him all about my dreams of music and such. He offered me a piece of advice which to this day I have never forgotten. If music is what I really wanted, never let a woman and a family ever come before it. I've never forgotten that.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:50 am

Don wrote:Sushi is a talking about Arnel, right?
Since Pineda has been in the band, Journey has to had bring his family with them, lower the songs down and limit the amount of shows they do every week, less their singer gets too tired. In all actuality, they hired a guy who couldn't really handle quite a few of the initial employment requirements it seems.

Isn't that what you were trying to say, Sush?


Nothing about Pineda. I'm talking about the demands of the job by the people who runs the show and who were doing the interviewing.

In regards to what appears to be compromises between how the band operates and the members, perhaps they are willing to change up some stuff because it’s well worth it to the band to make those accommodations. Is it wrong?
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Postby slucero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:57 am

Don wrote:Sushi is a talking about Arnel, right?
Since Pineda has been in the band, Journey has to had bring his family with them, lower the songs down and limit the amount of shows they do every week, less their singer gets too tired. In all actuality, they hired a guy who couldn't really handle quite a few of the initial employment requirements it seems.

Isn't that what you were trying to say, Sush?


he was talking shit to Jeremey... which is why he quoted my post to Jeremey...


He wasn't there.. yet he "knows" exactly what transpired and why... :roll:

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:05 am

slucero wrote:
Don wrote:Sushi is a talking about Arnel, right?
Since Pineda has been in the band, Journey has to had bring his family with them, lower the songs down and limit the amount of shows they do every week, less their singer gets too tired. In all actuality, they hired a guy who couldn't really handle quite a few of the initial employment requirements it seems.

Isn't that what you were trying to say, Sush?


he was talking shit to Jeremey... which is why he quoted my post to Jeremey...


He wasn't there.. yet he "knows" exactly what transpired and why... :roll:


I'm not talking shit about anyone, really. What would I be accomplishing by doing so? What I am doing is looking at all sides of the situation. You're right, I wasn't there, but I'm taking Jeremey's account of what was discussed in the 500SL as an accurate reaccount. So I was there, by proxy. Unless you want to say that Jeremey's reaccount wasn't accurate enough.
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Postby slucero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:26 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
Don wrote:Sushi is a talking about Arnel, right?
Since Pineda has been in the band, Journey has to had bring his family with them, lower the songs down and limit the amount of shows they do every week, less their singer gets too tired. In all actuality, they hired a guy who couldn't really handle quite a few of the initial employment requirements it seems.

Isn't that what you were trying to say, Sush?


he was talking shit to Jeremey... which is why he quoted my post to Jeremey...


He wasn't there.. yet he "knows" exactly what transpired and why... :roll:


I'm not talking shit about anyone, really. What would I be accomplishing by doing so? What I am doing is looking at all sides of the situation. You're right, I wasn't there, but I'm taking Jeremey's account of what was discussed in the 500SL as an accurate reaccount. So I was there, by proxy. Unless you want to say that Jeremey's reaccount wasn't accurate enough.



Wrong.... you have no idea what Neal or Jon meant... yet you inferred from Jeremey's post regarding NS and JC that:

Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?


While.. Jeremey's post was pointing out the IRONY that the "rules" (you claim to have inferred from his post) changed with AP's presence in the band...


Your post was simply a shot at Jeremey..

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Postby tater1977 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:45 am

Don wrote:Looks like Neal might have been grumbling at the end of the screening, or perhaps his blonde bandmate was coaching him up? Where's Cain when you need him?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rel ... _blog.html

What a Journey! Michaele Salahi and Neal Schon walk red carpet at Silverdocs, bail out early
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She wore a form-fitting white satin dress and rhinestone flip-flops that brought the statuesque blonde down to Schon’s height - a courtesy she rarely seemed to accord to her ex. The guitarist was turned out in black leather and shades. The divorce from Tareq — currently mounting a quixotic campaign for governor of Virginia while grappling with state crackdowns on his charity and businesses — has grown ugly, but the new couple seemed untroubled.


And as soon as the credits rolled — Schon and Salahi were outta there, despite imploring from organizers to stay. The guitarist was overheard grousing that the film didn’t emphasize the dynamics of the band enough. A rep for the band told us Schon had informed organizers over the weekend he couldn’t stay for the panel but did not elaborate on why.[/i]


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Postby tater1977 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:59 am

(On Twitter)..


Chris _ _ Richards‏@Chris__Richards

Neal Schon of Journey just phoned to explain he never agreed to the @silverdocs panel on Monday. I pass his classy clarification on to you.
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Postby Don » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:10 am

Arnel Pineda is Journey.

Neal Schon needs to be BANNED from any more movie premieres.............and Michaele too.
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Postby tater1977 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:21 am

Looks like JC keep busying ... :D

(On Tweeter)...

Renee Grant-Williams‏@MyVoiceCoach

Suite Caroline is working in the studio with Jonathan Cain from Journey this week. Jonathan will be producing... http://fb.me/1tl9x49KW
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Postby tater1977 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:27 am

Mark Rampulla‏@mrampulla

Chris Caminiti and some guy from Journey (Jonathan Cain) @ Bluebird Cafe http://instagr.am/p/MHRHOVNFoQ/




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Postby Don » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:05 pm

http://meetsobsession.com/2012/featured ... festival1/

""..The film is scattered with many would-be conflicts. He’s on the verge of passing out before his first gig with the band, but performs like he’s been doing it for years (the band’s manager even mildly scolds him bouncing around the stage too much). He talks about the temptations of slipping back into his old habits with the “rock ‘n’ roll circus” that surrounds him. Please. Though rock ‘n’ roll may still be in full swing for the Journey dudes, the sex and drugs have left them eons ago.

The biggest narrative conflict comes midway through their tour when Arnell comes down with a cold and the members worry about how it will affect the shows. Needless to say, he ends up sounding better than ever.

Though the rags-to-riches story is certainly endearing, and the film offers enough lighthearted and amusing moments to make it somewhat enjoyable (one scene in a tour van with a particularly hilarious mustachioed character provided some of the biggest unintentional laughs of the evening), it is really only ripe for about an hour before things start feel repetitive.

Which is why Neal Schon really must call ‘em as he sees ‘em. The guitarist was in attendance for the film and was scheduled to be a part of a post-screening discussion between The Washington Post’s pop music critic Chris Richards and the filmmakers, but apparently he fled as soon as the film ended as he was rumored to be upset that “the film didn’t emphasize the dynamics of the band enough.”

Don’t stop believin’, Neal."


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Postby Jeremey » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:18 pm

slucero wrote:
While.. Jeremey's post was pointing out the IRONY that the "rules" (you claim to have inferred from his post) changed with AP's presence in the band...


Your post was simply a shot at Jeremey..


Meh...based on posting history I just kinda got the whole troll vibe, not really a shot at me in particular just a continuation of a certain posting style I've noticed over the past few weeks. It was clearly a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of my post, but I think most people here got the point.
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Postby slucero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:04 pm

Jeremey wrote:
slucero wrote:
While.. Jeremey's post was pointing out the IRONY that the "rules" (you claim to have inferred from his post) changed with AP's presence in the band...


Your post was simply a shot at Jeremey..


Meh...based on posting history I just kinda got the whole troll vibe, not really a shot at me in particular just a continuation of a certain posting style I've noticed over the past few weeks. It was clearly a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of my post, but I think most people here got the point.


ya.. I get that.. but that's Sushi's M.O.

...and I can't stand trolls.. :lol:

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Postby steveo777 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:41 pm

slucero wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
slucero wrote:
While.. Jeremey's post was pointing out the IRONY that the "rules" (you claim to have inferred from his post) changed with AP's presence in the band...


Your post was simply a shot at Jeremey..


Meh...based on posting history I just kinda got the whole troll vibe, not really a shot at me in particular just a continuation of a certain posting style I've noticed over the past few weeks. It was clearly a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of my post, but I think most people here got the point.


ya.. I get that.. but that's Sushi's M.O.

...and I can't stand trolls.. :lol:


Nothing flourishes without being fed. Jeremey simply chose not to provide any food and took the high road. That takes class. :D
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Postby slucero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:06 pm

steveo777 wrote:
slucero wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
slucero wrote:
While.. Jeremey's post was pointing out the IRONY that the "rules" (you claim to have inferred from his post) changed with AP's presence in the band...


Your post was simply a shot at Jeremey..


Meh...based on posting history I just kinda got the whole troll vibe, not really a shot at me in particular just a continuation of a certain posting style I've noticed over the past few weeks. It was clearly a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of my post, but I think most people here got the point.


ya.. I get that.. but that's Sushi's M.O.

...and I can't stand trolls.. :lol:


Nothing flourishes without being fed. Jeremey simply chose not to provide any food and took the high road. That takes class. :D



I've seen J defend hisself... his choice to take whatever road he chooses..

I, however, still hate trolls.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:58 am

Your making an issue out of nothing. Cut and dry, these are the requirements that the job demand, take it or leave it. End of story. I remember Jeremey mentioning this around three years ago. He made the decision that the band route was not for him because of these requirements that the job demanded. He was happy with his decision and that made it right.

Your just raw because I'm not jumping on your little bandwagon that's slowly making it's way through Nowhereville of hating Schon or any other member of the band because of these requirements that they demand from who is going to take the job offer. Where do you get off dictating how specific members or the band should run their business? Your going outside the scope of your relationship with the band. This is why I don't jump on your bandwagon, I don't have any desire to go outside the scope of my relationship with the band, which is "if I like the music, I buy the album and/or go to the concerts". That's it.

slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
Don wrote:Sushi is a talking about Arnel, right?
Since Pineda has been in the band, Journey has to had bring his family with them, lower the songs down and limit the amount of shows they do every week, less their singer gets too tired. In all actuality, they hired a guy who couldn't really handle quite a few of the initial employment requirements it seems.

Isn't that what you were trying to say, Sush?


he was talking shit to Jeremey... which is why he quoted my post to Jeremey...


He wasn't there.. yet he "knows" exactly what transpired and why... :roll:


I'm not talking shit about anyone, really. What would I be accomplishing by doing so? What I am doing is looking at all sides of the situation. You're right, I wasn't there, but I'm taking Jeremey's account of what was discussed in the 500SL as an accurate reaccount. So I was there, by proxy. Unless you want to say that Jeremey's reaccount wasn't accurate enough.



Wrong.... you have no idea what Neal or Jon meant... yet you inferred from Jeremey's post regarding NS and JC that:

Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?


While.. Jeremey's post was pointing out the IRONY that the "rules" (you claim to have inferred from his post) changed with AP's presence in the band...


Your post was simply a shot at Jeremey..
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:09 am

Nice looking chick. I just love those nips too! Go big daddy Schon.

tater1977 wrote:
Don wrote:Looks like Neal might have been grumbling at the end of the screening, or perhaps his blonde bandmate was coaching him up? Where's Cain when you need him?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rel ... _blog.html

What a Journey! Michaele Salahi and Neal Schon walk red carpet at Silverdocs, bail out early
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She wore a form-fitting white satin dress and rhinestone flip-flops that brought the statuesque blonde down to Schon’s height - a courtesy she rarely seemed to accord to her ex. The guitarist was turned out in black leather and shades. The divorce from Tareq — currently mounting a quixotic campaign for governor of Virginia while grappling with state crackdowns on his charity and businesses — has grown ugly, but the new couple seemed untroubled.


And as soon as the credits rolled — Schon and Salahi were outta there, despite imploring from organizers to stay. The guitarist was overheard grousing that the film didn’t emphasize the dynamics of the band enough. A rep for the band told us Schon had informed organizers over the weekend he couldn’t stay for the panel but did not elaborate on why.[/i]


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Postby Gideon » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:38 am

Sushi wrote:Your just raw because I'm not jumping on your little bandwagon that's slowly making it's way through Nowhereville of hating Schon


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Might not be going anywhere, but that wagon is not little.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:19 am

Gideon wrote:
Sushi wrote:Your just raw because I'm not jumping on your little bandwagon that's slowly making it's way through Nowhereville of hating Schon


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Might not be going anywhere, but that wagon is not little.


Compared to the overall fan base of this band, domestic and international combined, I would say it's more like a wheelbarrow missing its front wheel. :lol: Drag it backwards baby!
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Postby slucero » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:12 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Your making an issue out of nothing. Cut and dry, these are the requirements that the job demand, take it or leave it. End of story. I remember Jeremey mentioning this around three years ago. He made the decision that the band route was not for him because of these requirements that the job demanded. He was happy with his decision and that made it right.

Your just raw because I'm not jumping on your little bandwagon that's slowly making it's way through Nowhereville of hating Schon or any other member of the band because of these requirements that they demand from who is going to take the job offer. Where do you get off dictating how specific members or the band should run their business? Your going outside the scope of your relationship with the band. This is why I don't jump on your bandwagon, I don't have any desire to go outside the scope of my relationship with the band, which is "if I like the music, I buy the album and/or go to the concerts". That's it.



Nice turnaround.. lose the debate then attack me for supposedly hating Schon... lmao.... you've gone full retard.

Nowhere in this thread have I "dictated how any bandmember should run their business"... yet you had no problem articulating how you think they think in that regard:

HERE:

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Well that's how he runs things. He's laying it all out on the table so consider the demands of the position and then take it or leave it. Much like a job interview, yes? You interviewed, why bitch about the requirements that the job position demands?


HERE:

The Sushi Hunter wrote:...The band and Schon run a tight shift and have a set of demands that must be met by whomever is to take that position.


AND HERE:

The Sushi Hunter wrote:I'm talking about the demands of the job by the people who runs the show and who were doing the interviewing.




And finally, you just did it.. again.... in your top post..


Yet.. By your own admission, the "scope' of your"relationship with the band" is... "if I like the music, I buy the album and/or go to the concerts. That's it."


Assuming you mean what you say(write), and I'm pretty sure you don't since you can't even defend what you wrote in this thread... then there's no need for you to have any other opinion on the band, and no reason for you to be here.


...that's it.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:02 am

Ok slurpcum, it’s become quite clear that you have a chronic illogical thought process disorder. Unlike you, I have a life, a very meaningful one. And I’m not spending another keystroke of it on your dumb ass. You can quote me on that also, shithead.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:03 am

So has anyone seen this movie yet that can fill everyone else in on what was in it and how it was?
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Postby slucero » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:21 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Ok slurpcum, it’s become quite clear that you have a chronic illogical thought process disorder. Unlike you, I have a life, a very meaningful one. And I’m not spending another keystroke of it on your dumb ass. You can quote me on that also, shithead.


What are you - a 4 year old??

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Its QUITE clear you have a horrible case of adolescence.. so much so that you have to resort to name-calling... like a little boy.

Time to go back into your mommas basement.... make sure you don't forget your bottle...

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


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