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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:07 am

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Postby slucero » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:02 am

and in the original key!

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Postby Eric » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:05 am

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Postby slucero » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:11 am

I was waiting for the money note... that might have been too much though..

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Postby Don » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:45 am

slucero wrote:I was waiting for the money note... that might have been too much though..


Yeah, they never made it to that note when he performed the mash up with Patiently also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX8e4p1cuek

I think the short acapella at the festival was more about him using the song as a thank you to the fans as that is how Jon envisioned it when he wrote it.
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:50 am

Here is a complete rendition though done ala Karaoke. Very, very rough but it was sort of an impromtu performance it appears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ1X-ym8vFQ

I've noticed that Pineda struggles with outros on a lot of the songs, his timing just goes to hell when he tries to carry the songs out on a high note.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:37 am

Isn't it funny how he's been out in public singing and performing for over 25 years yet it's only after he joins Journey when the Filipino's started jumping through their assholes to meet him, video tape him, take pictures with him, etc.?
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Postby Jana » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:01 am

Attempting that song acapella at his age, pretty impressive.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:05 am

Jana wrote:Attempting that song acapella at his age, pretty impressive.


He's got the range. It's the band that chooses to tune down to protect from mistakes of the past with former singers.

Filipinos can hit high ranges much older than him. If you don't believe me you ought to hear my wife yell at me! LOL
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Postby tater1977 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:09 am

steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:Attempting that song acapella at his age, pretty impressive.


He's got the range. It's the band that chooses to tune down to protect from mistakes of the past with former singers.

Filipinos can hit high ranges much older than him. If you don't believe me you ought to hear my wife yell at me! LOL


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Postby brywool » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:13 am

It's an impromptu, accapela thing. Take it for what it is, singing during an interview. The guy's got killer tone.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:23 pm

Arnel is about as good as it gets. Ya think Steve Perry could do this right now?
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:46 pm

Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.
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Postby slucero » Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:18 pm

Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


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Postby Gideon » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:21 pm

Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:33 pm

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.
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Postby Gideon » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:38 pm

Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.
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Postby JohnH » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:06 pm

Perry was certain in 97, class act knew when to stop instead of embarrass himself.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:08 pm

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?
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Postby Gideon » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:13 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be.


What-if scenarios about Journey for me begin and end with "what if Kevin Chalfant replaced Perry in either '84, '93, or '98. He was, by far, their biggest missed opportunity.
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:45 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?


They make more money doing the TV gigs and singing the greatest American pop hits of the 70s live than actually selling records. Seriously, watch their TV variety programs; it's all song and dance with the majority of songs coming from the Adult Contemporary scene of yesteryear ( Stephen Bishop, Dan Hill, George Duke, etc.).
The artists and genres that Arnel is known for covering (Bon Jovi, U2, Heart) aren't really something you hear on those shows.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:12 pm

Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?


They make more money doing the TV gigs and singing the greatest American pop hits of the 70s live than actually selling records. Seriously, watch their TV variety programs; it's all song and dance with the majority of songs coming from the Adult Contemporary scene of yesteryear ( Stephen Bishop, Dan Hill, George Duke, etc.).
The artists and genres that Arnel is known for covering (Bon Jovi, U2, Heart) aren't really something you hear on those shows.


Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIMV2EmQ6A
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:28 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?


They make more money doing the TV gigs and singing the greatest American pop hits of the 70s live than actually selling records. Seriously, watch their TV variety programs; it's all song and dance with the majority of songs coming from the Adult Contemporary scene of yesteryear ( Stephen Bishop, Dan Hill, George Duke, etc.).
The artists and genres that Arnel is known for covering (Bon Jovi, U2, Heart) aren't really something you hear on those shows.


Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIMV2EmQ6A


Really, dude? One performance from 4 years ago when the two OPM industry outsiders were paired up together like circus freaks to sing a power ballad, The exception rather than the rule.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:26 am

Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.
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Postby Gideon » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:30 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.


Nothing there you liked?
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:43 am

Gideon wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.


Nothing there you liked?


Honestly, nothing. Pitchy, weird phrasing, weird enunciation, the whole 9 yards.
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Postby Rick » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:45 am

Gideon wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.


Nothing there you liked?


Tough to impress I guess. I thought he did pretty damn good. I think a lot of us are just spoiled by Perry. :lol:
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Postby scarab » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:55 am

it is not too late to get Soto back...

come on Neal, get it done!
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Postby Ritchie » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:03 am

Did Perry ever sing this song live or any of the other Journeysingers?
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Postby Rick » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:10 am

Ritchie wrote:Did Perry ever sing this song live or any of the other Journey singers?


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