Arnel is sick?

[steveo777]

I see it's time someone raised their Prozac dosage again... Just Sayin'....

FUCK THAT.....GIVE ME A GLASS OF WINE AND A SEAT AT THE HORSE RACES AND THINGS WILL BE FINE AND DANDY !!

You're yelling again....BITCH!!!

[Rick]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

[Just Saying]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

Ross Valory was replaced in 1985-1986 because he had ongoing court dates and could not be on tour....He wanted to fly around and be a part time bassist....NOT ACCEPTABLE ON TOUR....So, Randy Jackson was asked to fill in on studio time and Neal asked him to tour...Richard marx also was considered for Jonathan cains part because of foolish turmoil at that time.

Steve Smith was replaced because his family life was more important than the family life with the band... He wanted to take a full crew on the road....In music it's very hard to make the stars happy, but when you add a family of 4 and tour.......It's just nuts !!!.....If you need to be at home......THEN STAY HOME.....Does not make you weak.....It makes you a family man.....I get it.......It all worked out in the end......Steve Smith didn't act too happy on the directors cut of "Behind the Music"......But later on went to say it was a good call on Perrys part to see he cared enough to make me take care of business at home......To this day Steve has been booking dates with his jazz band and could not be happier...( he is hoping for a Journey re-union if the band gets inducted in the Hall of Fame----I'm excited too if that happens)...

[Just Saying]

I see it's time someone raised their Prozac dosage again... Just Sayin'....

FUCK THAT.....GIVE ME A GLASS OF WINE AND A SEAT AT THE HORSE RACES AND THINGS WILL BE FINE AND DANDY !!

You're yelling again....BITCH!!!

LMAO !!! got it slapnuts !!!

[Carlitto H@kk]

I see it's time someone raised their Prozac dosage again... Just Sayin'....

FUCK THAT.....GIVE ME A GLASS OF WINE AND A SEAT AT THE HORSE RACES AND THINGS WILL BE FINE AND DANDY !!

Is this Geoff Tate?

[portland]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Who in the fuck are you? Tell me to STFU? I get it, you, as some newbie, are gonna have the only proper opinion or view around here. Check!

Ok then I will tell you....

[portland]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

This is where I laugh at Giddy's posts telling me that the band had nothing to do with Perry's voice being shot....if a doctor tells AP to sit out for a month and they are saying they
will be back in two weeks...It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that whom ever is the vocalist is for this band is in trouble.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The bond between Neal and Arnel is pretty tight...

Yea, and Steve Augeri is their loyal "brother." You need a wake up call. End of the day - Journey is a buisness.

[Archetype]

Perhaps we'll start seeing "evening with" sort of tours with Arnel, Deen and Steve Augeri sharing vocal duties.

[Gideon]

This is where I laugh at Giddy's posts telling me that the band had nothing to do with Perry's voice being shot

This is where I laugh and ask you to produce these posts.

I'll even make it easy for you. Here's the thread in which this was most recently discussed:
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=55614

And on the very first page:

All I see is Jeremey trying to remind people (possibly directed at me?) that there were circumstances, factors, pressures, and people involved in this beyond Steve Perry. All of which is true. But at the end of the day, it was still his choice.

Let's see if you can defy expectations and actually provide a basis for anything you say.

[Gideon]

The bond between Neal and Arnel is pretty tight...

Yea, and Steve Augeri is their loyal "brother." You need a wake up call. End of the day - Journey is a buisness.

Neal attended the christening of Arnel's recent kid and was apparently named a godfather, not to mention at least two trips to Manila to spend time w/ Arnel or for a charity Arnel supported. The general affection they publicly display for each other (praise, hugs, fist-bumps) far exceeds anything I've ever seen Neal give to Perry, let alone poor Augeri, whom Neal seemed to never acknowledge on stage.

Journey may be a business and this all may be calculated posturing for the sake of Neal's controversial public image, but it's more than the previous singers can say.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Neal attended the christening of Arnel's recent kid and was apparently named a godfather...

Link? Proof? Sounds like bad judgement on Arnel's part. But hey, Neal is loaded so it makes sense.

[mrsp]

Sorry to hear Arnel is ill. I hope they have learned from past mistakes and allow him to fully recover. But realistically, how long can this band keep playing? Time is not on their side. (Cain is 62, Valory is 63, Schon is 58, Arnel is 45 and Castronovo is around 47.)

[Gideon]

Neal attended the christening of Arnel's recent kid and was apparently named a godfather...

Link? Proof? Sounds like bad judgement on Arnel's part. But hey, Neal is loaded so it makes sense.

Can't find the Facebook pix at the moment, but here's a link to confirmation:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainmen ... y-politics

[jestor92]

Sorry to hear Arnel is ill. I hope they have learned from past mistakes and allow him to fully recover. But realistically, how long can this band keep playing? Time is not on their side. (Cain is 62, Valory is 63, Schon is 58, Arnel is 45 and Castronovo is around 47.)

They can play as long as they have a singer to sing their matierial. They don't move around a whole lot on stage so age doesn't bother them physically as much as it would a band like KISS. The only one on stage that actually looks awake is Schon and that depends on how many good looking women are at a concert on a certain night.

Also they can cancel these shows because they're headlining, when Augeri went down for the count his voice was already dead and they were an opener for Def Lepp.

[FamilyMan]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

Ross Valory was replaced in 1985-1986 because he had ongoing court dates and could not be on tour....He wanted to fly around and be a part time bassist....NOT ACCEPTABLE ON TOUR....So, Randy Jackson was asked to fill in on studio time and Neal asked him to tour...Richard marx also was considered for Jonathan cains part because of foolish turmoil at that time.

Steve Smith was replaced because his family life was more important than the family life with the band... He wanted to take a full crew on the road....In music it's very hard to make the stars happy, but when you add a family of 4 and tour.......It's just nuts !!!.....If you need to be at home......THEN STAY HOME.....Does not make you weak.....It makes you a family man.....I get it.......It all worked out in the end......Steve Smith didn't act too happy on the directors cut of "Behind the Music"......But later on went to say it was a good call on Perrys part to see he cared enough to make me take care of business at home......To this day Steve has been booking dates with his jazz band and could not be happier...( he is hoping for a Journey re-union if the band gets inducted in the Hall of Fame----I'm excited too if that happens)...

This is definitely a version of history I've not heard. Tell us more.

[FamilyMan]

He's just sick. It's not like he's blown his voice out. He needs to take time off to avoid making things worse and getting an infection that will have prolonged consequences. Tape gate one was enough. They won't do it again and go out in shame. They are not going forward without Arnel, for without him they know they are done. In fact all the members have said directly, or in so many words, that the band will last as long as Arnel does and when he's done, so are they. I'd hate to have people read too much into this. I wish Arnel a speedy recovery.

Amen, brother. I join you in wishing Arnel well. And can we all please stop asking for more Deen songs to carry the band on? A drummer singing lead is just silly. Ask Phil Collins.

[sp old ldy]

LMAO Rick, that was a good one!!!

[Majestic]

He's just sick. It's not like he's blown his voice out. He needs to take time off to avoid making things worse and getting an infection that will have prolonged consequences. Tape gate one was enough. They won't do it again and go out in shame. They are not going forward without Arnel, for without him they know they are done. In fact all the members have said directly, or in so many words, that the band will last as long as Arnel does and when he's done, so are they. I'd hate to have people read too much into this. I wish Arnel a speedy recovery.

Amen, brother. I join you in wishing Arnel well. And can we all please stop asking for more Deen songs to carry the band on? A drummer singing lead is just silly. Ask Phil Collins.

Phil Collins, Don Henley, and even Steve Perry all the had the sense to realize that their pipes were more special then their ability to pound the skins. The fact the Deen hasn't figured that out about himself is the thing that's silly to me. Deen plays decent drums, but I guess he's pretty average as a professional drummer (which is great!). His vocals, though, are pretty special and he is a better vocalist than drummer.

[annie89509]

The bond between Neal and Arnel is pretty tight...

Yea, and Steve Augeri is their loyal "brother." You need a wake up call. End of the day - Journey is a buisness.

Neal attended the christening of Arnel's recent kid and was apparently named a godfather, not to mention at least two trips to Manila to spend time w/ Arnel or for a charity Arnel supported. The general affection they publicly display for each other (praise, hugs, fist-bumps) far exceeds anything I've ever seen Neal give to Perry, let alone poor Augeri, whom Neal seemed to never acknowledge on stage.

Journey may be a business and this all may be calculated posturing for the sake of Neal's controversial public image, but it's more than the previous singers can say.

Actually, if we research back to the early years, all accounts point to Neal and Steve being very close. As the main songwriters for the band’s music, doing a lot of writing on the road, they seemed inseparable.

I think the divergence started to evolve when Jon joined the group. As Jon have said, he and Steve are 2 sentimentalists at heart. Steve wanted to sing love ballads, and he can write them. The 2 developed a form of kinship through their commonality, and Neal became the odd man out. We all know, as the story goes, that Neal was practically shut out of the ROR creative process. I believe any friction and bitterness (between Neal/Steve) was a slow brewing process over circumstances that developed over a number of years... and were not so in the early years.

This is all speculation, of course…

[Infinity Vocalist 2010]

Whatever happens with Arnel, I do believe it's a little of both sides. There is a friendship with all of them. And Neal and Arnel especially. BUT. This is a big but. It is also a business. Which is why I won't believe for a second that Arnel is truly the last straw. Journey will continue with or without him, as long as there's money to be made, and of course, as long as Neal Schon needs said money.

[Just Saying]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

Ross Valory was replaced in 1985-1986 because he had ongoing court dates and could not be on tour....He wanted to fly around and be a part time bassist....NOT ACCEPTABLE ON TOUR....So, Randy Jackson was asked to fill in on studio time and Neal asked him to tour...Richard marx also was considered for Jonathan cains part because of foolish turmoil at that time.

Steve Smith was replaced because his family life was more important than the family life with the band... He wanted to take a full crew on the road....In music it's very hard to make the stars happy, but when you add a family of 4 and tour.......It's just nuts !!!.....If you need to be at home......THEN STAY HOME.....Does not make you weak.....It makes you a family man.....I get it.......It all worked out in the end......Steve Smith didn't act too happy on the directors cut of "Behind the Music"......But later on went to say it was a good call on Perrys part to see he cared enough to make me take care of business at home......To this day Steve has been booking dates with his jazz band and could not be happier...( he is hoping for a Journey re-union if the band gets inducted in the Hall of Fame----I'm excited too if that happens)...

This is definitely a version of history I've not heard. Tell us more.

If you have questions PM me...

[steveo777]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

Ross Valory was replaced in 1985-1986 because he had ongoing court dates and could not be on tour....He wanted to fly around and be a part time bassist....NOT ACCEPTABLE ON TOUR....So, Randy Jackson was asked to fill in on studio time and Neal asked him to tour...Richard marx also was considered for Jonathan cains part because of foolish turmoil at that time.

Steve Smith was replaced because his family life was more important than the family life with the band... He wanted to take a full crew on the road....In music it's very hard to make the stars happy, but when you add a family of 4 and tour.......It's just nuts !!!.....If you need to be at home......THEN STAY HOME.....Does not make you weak.....It makes you a family man.....I get it.......It all worked out in the end......Steve Smith didn't act too happy on the directors cut of "Behind the Music"......But later on went to say it was a good call on Perrys part to see he cared enough to make me take care of business at home......To this day Steve has been booking dates with his jazz band and could not be happier...( he is hoping for a Journey re-union if the band gets inducted in the Hall of Fame----I'm excited too if that happens)...

This is definitely a version of history I've not heard. Tell us more.

If you have questions PM me...

Bullshit! You wanna stick your long neck out here, then bare it for all of us. Don't be a fucking coward! Your first moves here were to indicate that you "knew some stuff". Put up, shut up, or just get the fuck out. Don't toy with us here. Most of us are pretty decent people, until it's time to not be so decent. I'm very close to blowing your cover, btw. This group is way too savy for your antics. I have my suspicions as to who you may be, but there is a consortium of peeps that will meet and decide for sure, if you are who we think you are. But until then, the question shall remain- WWYBYWB?

[Just Saying]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

Ross Valory was replaced in 1985-1986 because he had ongoing court dates and could not be on tour....He wanted to fly around and be a part time bassist....NOT ACCEPTABLE ON TOUR....So, Randy Jackson was asked to fill in on studio time and Neal asked him to tour...Richard marx also was considered for Jonathan cains part because of foolish turmoil at that time.

Steve Smith was replaced because his family life was more important than the family life with the band... He wanted to take a full crew on the road....In music it's very hard to make the stars happy, but when you add a family of 4 and tour.......It's just nuts !!!.....If you need to be at home......THEN STAY HOME.....Does not make you weak.....It makes you a family man.....I get it.......It all worked out in the end......Steve Smith didn't act too happy on the directors cut of "Behind the Music"......But later on went to say it was a good call on Perrys part to see he cared enough to make me take care of business at home......To this day Steve has been booking dates with his jazz band and could not be happier...( he is hoping for a Journey re-union if the band gets inducted in the Hall of Fame----I'm excited too if that happens)...

This is definitely a version of history I've not heard. Tell us more.

If you have questions PM me...

Bullshit! You wanna stick your long neck out here, then bare it for all of us. Don't be a fucking coward! Your first moves here were to indicate that you "knew some stuff". Put up, shut up, or just get the fuck out. Don't toy with us here. Most of us are pretty decent people, until it's time to not be so decent. I'm very close to blowing your cover, btw. This group is way too savy for your antics. I have my suspicions as to who you may be, but there is a consortium of peeps that will meet and decide for sure, if you are who we think you are. But until then, the question shall remain- WWYBYWB?

Based on your pick--I'm guessing you work at walmart---Guess what?---Im not one of your minimum wage employees---Talk with respect or go away !!

[steveo777]

Hopefully for his sake, I hope Arnel recovers and the tour continues (not that I would go see them). He's their cash cow right now...

I wish Arnel the best...If some of you long time fans remember back in the day....Steve Perry got sick on the Raised on Radio tour but somehow played night after night.....Atlanta, Ga was where he actually went to the hospital for being ill....The tour was cut short in Alaska due to a sinus infection which lead to the ending of a great era in ROCK......Neal made Steve feel so bad about it, that Journey never really reformed again outside of the studio.

And can you imagine the size of his sinuses?

That's too bad though. They were absolutely on top of the world.

If you call firing Ross and Smitty on top of the world, then I guess........ The rods were knocking and there was saw dust in the crank case....the Journey engine was about to blow and it did. What Perry did to Journey for ROR is a Rock n Roll travesty. (" it seemed like a good idea at the time").

Gosh oh mighty...You watch way too much TV..................The split on Raised on Radio was something the whole band agreed upon...If you have any computer skills, read Jonathan Cains interview from 1987....Steve Perry really didn't want to tour behind Raised on Radio....The family problems where so bad at that time( his mother passing and a DUI his daughter was charged with being under age of drinking).........It was very clear in 1986-1987 that Steve Perry was done with Journey for awhile..........Steve Perry tried to release a solo album in 1987 and again in 1989 called Against the Wall......But Herbie Herbert made that impossible because he wanted Journey back together so he could by another house overseas....thats why he dedicated the song " WHY CAN"T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER" to his loyal fans on that tour in 1986 ...Do something your whole life and try to imagine it over, but nobody knows but you....Depression sets in along with life changing health issues.....until you have walked the walk......shut the fuck up !!!



Gosh

Just to be fair, according to Herbie, Steve wanted to quit after the Escape tour. I'm not sure anything Neal said made that happen, although it might have made it easier. It was also mentioned that it was absolutely Perry's insistence that Valory and Smith be replaced for ROR.

Ross Valory was replaced in 1985-1986 because he had ongoing court dates and could not be on tour....He wanted to fly around and be a part time bassist....NOT ACCEPTABLE ON TOUR....So, Randy Jackson was asked to fill in on studio time and Neal asked him to tour...Richard marx also was considered for Jonathan cains part because of foolish turmoil at that time.

Steve Smith was replaced because his family life was more important than the family life with the band... He wanted to take a full crew on the road....In music it's very hard to make the stars happy, but when you add a family of 4 and tour.......It's just nuts !!!.....If you need to be at home......THEN STAY HOME.....Does not make you weak.....It makes you a family man.....I get it.......It all worked out in the end......Steve Smith didn't act too happy on the directors cut of "Behind the Music"......But later on went to say it was a good call on Perrys part to see he cared enough to make me take care of business at home......To this day Steve has been booking dates with his jazz band and could not be happier...( he is hoping for a Journey re-union if the band gets inducted in the Hall of Fame----I'm excited too if that happens)...

This is definitely a version of history I've not heard. Tell us more.

If you have questions PM me...

Bullshit! You wanna stick your long neck out here, then bare it for all of us. Don't be a fucking coward! Your first moves here were to indicate that you "knew some stuff". Put up, shut up, or just get the fuck out. Don't toy with us here. Most of us are pretty decent people, until it's time to not be so decent. I'm very close to blowing your cover, btw. This group is way too savy for your antics. I have my suspicions as to who you may be, but there is a consortium of peeps that will meet and decide for sure, if you are who we think you are. But until then, the question shall remain- WWYBYWB?

Based on your pick--I'm guessing you work at walmart---Guess what?---Im not one of your minimum wage employees---Talk with respect or go away !!

Talk with respect? Prove to me you are any protected class of citizen and I will. I suspect, however, that you are not much more than a notch above festering parasite shit.

[Jeremey]

You seem to think I'm full of shit, however the ROR DVD/CD is in the works, I would give you a date, but after seeing how hateful some of you are , it can wait...

You have me confused with another poster, I'VE NEVER POSTED ON VH-1 EVER !!!...in fact this is the only site I've done any posting on, so brand me with your bullshit, it don't matter to me one bit, but know this, in time you will know who I am...enough said...

I think Arnel did a wonderful job....I know there are alot of people out there not liking Arnel.....I think he has overcome many obsticles in life and in music itself, and thats something I can relate too....I like him for just being the musician he is, and never giving up......he can sing anything he wants.......His youtube clips of other singers are impressive.

Neal Schon recently made a comment to the LA times editor that he's glad to hear Steve Perry is recording again, Steve will be on uncle joe's (benson) show ...sometime in october or november to talk about this new farewell album (studio album) ...he's talking about featuring the strange medicine group once again...HOWEVER this is a farewell album & no major tour will follow.

It has been talked about behind closed doors, Steve Perry is arranging a 10 city tour sometime next march or april. in Los Angeles,Ca and ending in New York, Ny...stay tuned...

Last I heard you were bobbing for fish, but I guess your girl/guy friend douched huh?... you still are a prick and a piece of shit as far as i'm concerened... your words from the past carry on ...

** Its a Poll You fucking prick....If you dont like it go to barry manilows site.....gosh oh mighty !!........This is a trick poll.....because I will tell you all the answer against many people's wishes very soon !!!

Everything is being discussed in certain circles right now, as you know things like this don't just happen in one day,

It will be announced in a few months officially through Fanasylum.com when the details get worked out.

Think again!... Steve Perry still controls alot of the Journey movement...What keys does Neal have?... Maybe his house keys and the keys to a whore's heart... She owns his wallet like all the others in the past.. Soon Neal will ENCOUNTER what Ross went through in the late 80's early 90's...BANKRUPTCY.......You guys crack me up !!

I'm in good hands then... we have people here that can predict the future, how much do you charge?...I'm willing to pay big bucks for helping me understand what I was thinking when I thought you guys were Journey Fans... Do you travel to LA ?

I think thats a pretty bold comment considering you have nothing to do with the writting credits of this song, and no singing rights at all...Youtube will probably be pulling the plug on you in the near future...(are you having an identity crises Jeremey?)... Become yourself, not someone else !!

I log into youtube and all I see under Steve Perry is you and your band...Thats coming to an end real soon !!...list it under Jeremey Hunsicker if you are so proud of yourself... leave the name Steve Perry alone.

LMAO-------Thats funny shit--------Ever thought about moving to vegas and being apart of the "LEGENDS" tribute act that shows nightly in vegas?.......Its my understanding they dont have a Journey Tribute Band.......After what I read thats all that you do, along with a sideshow of your own material

The fans should expect the Houston 81 DVD (Houston Summit) and Raised on Radio 86 DVD (Angels Camp), as well as the latest evolution of this never ending band at (Arrowfest 2003) DVD in mid November, all sides plans to distribute the past and the present in this order ... The "kinks" and "disagreements" were settled in late January 2005...

Time for the past and present to collide with the ongoing fans of Journey !!!

I don't want to start a war with my answers, but if some of you are looking for a "clear answer" I can shed some light on the (soap-opera era) between the band and Steve Perry...

If you have questions PM me...

...ok if it's him, I have questions for him only the band would know answers too, so PM me...

[slucero]

I hear a "Distant Voice" calling...

[portland]

WTF!!! I am now confused???

[Andrew]

Talk with respect or go away !!

I'll state the same to you. Be careful.

[slucero]

Talk with respect or go away !!

I'll state the same to you. Be careful.

...was wondering when you'd get in here and call this fucking moron out Andrew...