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Postby tater1977 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:22 am

Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believin'' Doc

Neal Schon, Arnel Pineda and co. chat about new film tracing Filipino frontman's unusual path


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By Steve Appleford

August 17, 2013 11:00 AM ET

It's never been easy to replace the singer of a hugely popular rock band. After Steve Perry left Journey in 1998, the platinum-selling Bay Area act moved on with a series of vocalists to varying degrees of success, but it wasn't until guitarist Neal Schon landed at an obscure video on YouTube late one night that he knew he'd found his man — in Manila.

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The voice singing Journey hits in the lo-fi video belonged to Arnel Pineda, a Filipino singer who grew up in poverty and sang in local cover bands with no expectations of rock stardom. All Schon knew was that the guy sounded just like Perry, and he soon had Pineda on a plane to San Francisco to audition for the gig in late 2007. Months later, Pineda made his debut as the band's new singer in front of 20,000 fans at the Viña del Mar International Song Festival in Chile. "He's a clutch hitter, this kid," guitarist Jonathan Cain tells Rolling Stone. "He comes through."

The story of Pineda's dramatic first year in the band is told in the documentary Don’t Stop Believin’: Everyman’s Journey, which is set to air September 30th on the PBS series Independent Lens. Directed by Ramona Diaz, the film won raves at festival screenings last year and will be released August 20th on DVD and Blu-ray.

Pineda's first year was a grueling trial for the singer, whose dream gig came with the physical challenge of international touring and the expectations of Journey fans as he ran through an FM radio hit parade of "Faithfully," "Any Way You Want It" and "Who's Crying Now." He faced moments of loneliness, stage-fright and genuine racism, but still remains with the band after six years, and will be back on the road when Journey tours next year with the Steve Miller Band and Tower of Power.

He has yet to meet Perry, but knows what he'd say if that encounter ever happened, and without a hint of sarcasm: "Can I have your autograph?"

In Los Angeles, Pineda, Schon, Cain and bassist Ross Valory spoke with Rolling Stone about the documentary and Journey's new era as a truly international rock act.

The lead singer position is historically a very hard spot to fill.
Neal Schon: There were guys being pitched to us — people in L.A. and New York that have been doing the classic rock thing for a long time — and I really was not moved by it. I was looking for some serious talent, somebody that we could move forward with — and have serious pipes and go in new directions with us as well as cover our old stuff very well. When I found Arnel, I went, "That's the guy." I'd never heard any singer cover that broad of a spectrum. He'll do Nat King Cole for you right now, and you'll go no way. Sing for him, Arnel. . .

Arnel Pineda: [Singing] Unforgettable, that's what you are . . .

It seems like a crazy idea to find your singer that way from across the world.
Schon: I didn't think it was that crazy. Everybody was concerned that he was in Manila and does he speak English? I'd go, "I just watched 40 videos and he's singing all songs that are in English. If he doesn't speak good English, he can always learn."

Jonathan Cain: Ironically, the Internet proved to be a friend. When Arrival first came out [in 2001], Napster stole the album. We spent a ton of money flying to New York making this record only to have it up there for fans to get it for free, so I hated the Internet. Then it comes around to serve us well in the future. It's quite a tool and for us it was a blessing.

What was it like for you to suddenly be immersed in Journey's world?
Pineda: It was my world being turned upside down — but in a good way, a fantastic way. I'm still in disbelief. I'm in front of thousands of people singing all these songs that I listened to when I was 18 years old. Now I'm with the big boys and it's such a blessing. It's one in a million.

Schon: He brings it. He sings his heart out every night, and it's not an easy menu. Our songs are so difficult to sing. It's going on six years now and we've toured a lot.

What was it like as a new performer to be faced with all the pressure that comes with playing to large audiences?
Pineda: I had to give up a lot of foods that I'm accustomed to eating: dairy products, beer, wine, spicy food. And no talking. I like talking. It's become a luxury to last even through a 10-minute talk with you. I have to go back to my room and my silence — until the next gig happens.

Was there another downside to having this all happen at once?
Pineda: I get really homesick inside. I would miss my life with my wife.

Schon: In the very beginning, we threw him in the fire, no doubt about it. I remember we're getting ready to go on in Viña del Mar and it's sold out and it's live to 25 million people all over South America. Arnel is like, two seconds before we go on: "Can I go home? I don't want to go out." It was fear and loathing to the max, but then he went out and he went for it and the audience went nuts.

How nervous were you?
Pineda: I was terrified to death. It took years, but I survived it. I'm still here.

Other bands have tried to replace a popular singer with an unknown and failed.
Cain: It is rare that the audience goes with you like that.

Schon: The good news is that when he came in, it was a breath of fresh air for all of us and every scenario that went with it. All of a sudden, instead of us being a band from the U.S.A., we became a worldwide band. We're accepted worldwide everywhere we went with him in markets we were never accepted before. There's always going to be the naysayers who cant live with anything but exactly what it was from the beginning. You can't please everyone.

In the film, it shows that some of the early reactions were very negative, even racist. How did you deal with that?
Pineda: I just didn't bother to get intimidated with those words. I'm not trying to compete with Mr. Perry. I'm trying to help out here. I am so blessed to be in this position, to be the one to carry the legacy.

Cain: Back in '98, when we started with Steve Augeri [as singer 1998-2006], I was worried about him getting shot. We took a lot of flack. We used to get hate mail. Somebody got my number and would call me: "You son of a bitch!" They were reading us the riot act because how dare us be Journey without Steve Perry?

Schon: It was vicious, man.

Pineda: This is the first time I've said this — my wife was so freaked out with all these racist comments that she told me to bring a bulletproof vest: "You might get shot there!"

Because of your history together, you must still have business with
Steve Perry. Ross Valory: Steve has been really, really cooperative. He helped produce the greatest hits video. It's unfortunate we don't have a physical relationship with him.

Schon: Working on it though. I have ultimate respect and love for the guy this many years later. I'm getting older, man, and you don't want to hang onto all the stupid things that you do in your life. You start looking back and I'm cherishing all the good times that we had — and the first time I sat in a room with him and wrote "Patiently" in 10 minutes. The door's always been open. Arnel's even open. If he ever wanted to come onstage with us and do a song, we'd be like, "Come on!"

What was your reaction to the documentary?
Pineda: I'm so happy that it's out there. I think it's going to give a tremendous amount of inspiration for all of these hopeless musicians out there — especially those we will never learn about how fantastic they are. Second, it's like I'm not supposed to be there — I look at it and it's an ill fit. But it's how I look and how I was born, so I'm going to live with it. It's my journey. I'm so grateful for what's happened, and it's still going strong.
Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Kor'n » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:31 pm

tater1977 wrote:Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believin'' Doc

Neal Schon, Arnel Pineda and co. chat about new film tracing Filipino frontman's unusual path

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By Steve Appleford

August 17, 2013 11:00 AM ET

and will be back on the road when Journey tours next year with the Steve Miller Band and Tower of Power.


Huh, guess touring this year incognito aka no package deal.

He has yet to meet Perry, but knows what he'd say if that encounter ever happened, and without a hint of sarcasm: "Can I have your autograph?"


Maybe he can copy that too, but of course Perry would have to originally write it first.

In Los Angeles, Pineda, Schon, Cain and bassist Ross Valory spoke with Rolling Stone about the documentary and Journey's new era as a truly international rock act.


Was a collection taken up to pay for plane fare home from that dismal Australia tour (those numbers for real?).... Guess the Manilla hometown poor sales cancellation does not count for the "truly international [DSB] rock act"? Get Perry back and maybe they can make big bucks internationally like other US stars - Bon Jovi, Bruce, Eagles, Madonna, Usher, Beyonce, without packaging.

The lead singer position is historically a very hard spot to fill.
He'll do Nat King Cole for you right now, and you'll go no way. Sing for him, Arnel. . .


And Glee will "do" DSB to make it known nationally after 30+ years.

Jonathan Cain: Ironically, the Internet proved to be a friend. When Arrival first came out [in 2001], Napster stole the album. We spent a ton of money flying to New York making this record only to have it up there for fans to get it for free, so I hated the Internet. Then it comes around to serve us well in the future. It's quite a tool and for us it was a blessing.


One would think since "Napster stole the album" and had "it up there for fans to get it for free" that many people today would have it, and they would be playing those songs today.

What was it like for you to suddenly be immersed in Journey's world?
Pineda: It was my world being turned upside down — but in a good way, a fantastic way. I'm still in disbelief. I'm in front of thousands of people singing all these songs that I listened to when I was 18 years old. Now I'm with the big boys and it's such a blessing. It's one in a million.


"I'm sorry, I was mistaken by just reading the headline, but I thought it was that the inevitable story had come to pass, of his world being 'turned upside down' with him quickly being fired with Steve Perry coming back, but sadly, that is not the case." 08/17/13 ("naysayer")

Schon: In the very beginning, we threw him in the fire, no doubt about it. I remember we're getting ready to go on in Viña del Mar and it's sold out and it's live to 25 million people all over South America. Arnel is like, two seconds before we go on: "Can I go home? I don't want to go out." It was fear and loathing to the max, but then he went out and he went for it and the audience went nuts.


"That was yesterday and yesterday is gone." (Foreigner) Looking at 5700/6400 with Night Ranger couple of weeks ago.

Other bands have tried to replace a popular singer with an unknown and failed.
Cain: It is rare that the audience goes with you like that.


"Close your eyes you would think Perry was up there on that stage."

Schon: The good news is that when he came in, it was a breath of fresh air for all of us and every scenario that went with it. All of a sudden, instead of us being a band from the U.S.A., we became a worldwide band. We're accepted worldwide everywhere we went with him in markets we were never accepted before. There's always going to be the naysayers who cant live with anything but exactly what it was from the beginning. You can't please everyone.


Too bad you had to cancelled his hometown gig in Manilla. Guess he was "Gore'd" as in like Al.

Records indicate that you've sold about 47m US and about 70-80m worldwide, probably with Revelation and Eclipse accounting for a million or less worldwide.

"i was truly hoping that was the case as well. nobody likes arnel they just tolerate him barely. if perry would agree to come back they would fire arnel in less than sixty seconds without hesitation." 08/17/13 ("naysayer")

I'm not trying to compete with Mr. Perry. I'm trying to help out here. I am so blessed to be in this position, to be the one to carry the legacy.


Indeed, thanks to the Eclipse.

Cain: Back in '98, when we started with Steve Augeri [as singer 1998-2006], I was worried about him getting shot. We took a lot of flack. We used to get hate mail. Somebody got my number and would call me: "You son of a bitch!" They were reading us the riot act because how dare us be Journey without Steve Perry?

"Journey is not Journey without Steve, etc." Jrny FB ("naysayers")

Because of your history together, you must still have business with Steve Perry.
Ross Valory: Steve has been really, really cooperative. He helped produce the greatest hits video. It's unfortunate we don't have a physical relationship with him.


Just need to know where to send the checks since you continue trying to "rehash former glories." 2012

The door's always been open. Arnel's even open. If he ever wanted to come onstage with us and do a song, we'd be like, "Come on!"


And you will "always" be playing the Greatest Hits karaoke style, or should we await the great sales of the album in "2015"....

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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Eric » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:17 pm

Steve Miller Band and Tower of Power?

Maybe they can do some of the tunes with Tower of Power again! Loved when they did "Hold On I'm Coming" on the King Biscuit Flower Hour.

Here's Roadrunner:
http://youtu.be/n0c_IdWii5c

Not a huge Steve Miller Band fan...but a reunion for Valory, no?
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Eric » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:28 pm

http://youtu.be/UGVIgZ2Hy3A

"Hold on....I'm Coming"
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Kor'n » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:10 am

Eric wrote:Steve Miller Band and Tower of Power?

Maybe they can do some of the tunes with Tower of Power again! Loved when they did "Hold On I'm Coming" on the King Biscuit Flower Hour.

Here's Roadrunner:
http://youtu.be/n0c_IdWii5c

Not a huge Steve Miller Band fan...but a reunion for Valory, no?

That's Perry so guess you're now content with a "rehash."

Eric wrote:tp://youtu.be/UGVIgZ2Hy3A

"Hold on....I'm Coming"

Will be another "rehash."

I was looking for some serious talent, somebody that we could move forward with — and have serious pipes and go in new directions with us as well as cover our old stuff very well. When I found Arnel, I went, "That's the guy." I'd never heard any singer cover that broad of a spectrum. He'll do Nat King Cole for you right now, and you'll go no way. Sing for him, Arnel. . .(Neal)

Maybe the "new direction" is sideways into the past. "Cover that broad of a spectrum" unfortunately with little benefit to the tribute/cover band. They probably would have faired better to not sell as many with Revelation (700k+) and then complete flop of Eclipse (70k-). Too huge of a difference, seemingly a confirmation of their tribute/coverband status (as tours too seem to indicate), and Walmart wasted no time dropping them.

Eric (2012?) wrote: "They are getting bigger and bigger."

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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Eric » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:46 am

Will never understand why someone would make it a hobby to be negative at someone else's interest.

What a waste.
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Postby journeyMusic » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:03 am

On and on and on and on......my God!!
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:44 am

Even Journey thinks Kor'n is being an asshole. ^ LOL
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Kor'n » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:47 am

steveo777 wrote:Even Journey thinks Kor'n is being an asshole. ^ LOL

It takes one to know one, and you and Eric lead the pack. Constantly carrying on as though the band was doing magnificient things (well guess they were according to their standards). It's nice how Eric has accepted their tribute band status by thinking of how they might further contribute to that by constantly trying to "rehash" the things done with Perry b/c no one is interested in distributing their karaoke music. Guess they have figured out by now that it is now enough to just "sing anything" for you need to be able to sell anything. No hits before Steve Perry and none thereafter. May they hang on to their last hope that sob story, like there is no tomorrow.

Eric wrote:Will never understand why someone would make it a hobby to be negative at someone else's interest.

What a waste.

Seems you can "dish it out better than take it" huh? Forgive my saying but your "interest" seems kinda "negative" and "what a waste." No, can't really say a "waste" b/c that is all the band seemingly has ever been able to do "rehash" Perry years, karaoke style.

Seems the band is speaking their same old non-reality as you were, but seems that guitar player has taken a different stance on Perry from his last year's comment upon learning a new word (Queenrysche?):

"Fans upset because they ousted Perry." Neal

And the beater guy who had nothing to do with creating the legacy people want to hear said "Steve Smith left himself, but Steve Perry was dismissed." Deen

Could say that I "will never understand why [they] make it a hobby" to try to diminish or wipe out Perry's presence "big white elephant in the room" 2012, but their bitterness on his not being a road hog like them kinda sums it, along with their trying to elevate the new guy who has not and seemingly cannot create squat. And it goes "on and on."

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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Eric » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:35 am

I can't imagine spending time putting down a band people like.

Garbage.
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Kor'n » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:19 pm

Eric wrote:I can't imagine spending time putting down a band people like.

Garbage.


Do you mean like the band has spent "time putting down a [singer] that people like"? Shall we give them the "G" word?

"I can't imagine spending time" trying to wipe out the singer that brought you to fame and sold millions.

"I can't imagine spending" a whole disc insultingly mimicking your idol "note for note" and thinking you are worthy of a biopic.

"I can't imagine" saying" "carry on the legacy" "going strong" with no concern of your flop and contributing something other than karaoke and with Walmart dropping you like a "hot potato" as Sony did in 2001.

"I can't imagine" saying falses, knowing your travels would be very limited without Glee doing "DSB" kinda like your saying "getting bigger and bigger."

Seems your "new music" won't be coming next year. BUT, you may always go out to YT and drag in something that they might do a cover over Perry. Afterall that is their forte, nothing original.

Please feel free to use your "G" word. Would put it on that insultingly mimicking Revelation, but can't find it so I'll assume it was put where it belongs.

Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Eric » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:40 pm

Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.


1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.

Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby slucero » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:01 am

Eric wrote:
Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.


1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.

Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.



hey the man has purpose.. :mrgreen:

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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby RocknRoll » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:40 am

Eric wrote:
Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.


1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.

Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.



LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Kor'n » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:25 am

Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.

RocknRoll wrote:1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.

Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.

LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.

1. "Journey has 5 new albums since reforming" to no avail. Do you know when the next one is coming? After-all "he can sing anything."
2. "Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry" and "still" got in the HOF before Journey.
3. "Heart" is still with its major label, Sony, while it or any other seemingly won't touch current Journey.
4. Journey makes more money than Heart, but no one to "distribute music since Walmart no longer do music." (Neal 2011/12) aka "March madness - one shot and you're out." Rather suprised that Heart solo does almost as well as Journey triple-bill, at times.
5. Heart "still got interviews with Rolling Stone" along with pic in magazine (9/2/2010 Heart Still Beating With New LP (Red Velvet), Tour'/ Heart keeps making good music years after their classic-rock peers have faded" Andy Greene, Assoc Editor). Heart performed on ABC Ice Skating and on Dancing With the Stars.
6. Foreigner's photoshoot with Rolling Stone 2013 after "open for Journey" 2011.
Foreigner Behind the Scenes
Exclusive photos from resurgent band's 2013 World Tour Campaign shoot (RS 01/22/2013)
7. Yes, and who is that singer now?, got interview, visit and review of show from RS.
8. Tommy Shaw/Styx pic w/guitar "get interview with RS" and "open for Journey."
Styx: No Reunion With Former Frontman Dennis DeYoung (RS 07/07/2011/Andy Greene, Assoc Editor)

Keep in mind all those people and others you would not think, got shoots, interviews, etc. with RS, and don't make as much money as Journey, no fake platinum album, no BB Live Legend, was not on CBS or NBC, no DSB, no movie or sob story to tell. Seemed so deliberate, and always wondered why they never bothered to do Journey, but they finally got one. Now, let's hope the poor guy, whoever he is, does not lose his job. At least that guy did not call them a tribute band. (RS 2008) Like I said as long as possible, "may they hang on to that sob story like there's no tomorrow."
RocknRoll wrote:Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.

"LIKE!" Thanks for your kindness and generosity, quite busy though, but technology and decent memory allow coverage of the world in 10 minutes so may kinda respond truthfully and authoritatively, if need be. Sorry, can't do the Top 10, in a hurry.

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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Gideon » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:39 am

Still not digging the touring choices this year. Steve Miller Band I can vaguely fathom, but the Tower of fucking Power? Next tour, it'll be Kanye West.
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby tater1977 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:42 pm

Gideon wrote:Still not digging the touring choices this year. Steve Miller Band I can vaguely fathom, but the Tower of fucking Power? Next tour, it'll be Kanye West.


Tower of Power does have one thing in common with Journey though....ToP changes members about as often as
Journey changes lead singers...
These guys were great back in the day....haven't heard them lately..
Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Arkansas » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:55 pm

Tower of Power? Steve Miller? Hhmm...
Me thinks that whatever Journey does next year may be tied to prep/pr for the upcoming Santana thing...or maybe just some SanFran thing in general. Hhmm...

Btw, I love negative press. The nay-sayers are fulfilling their ambitions (great points!), and perhaps more importantly, keeping the name out there in public. I mean, if the 'negativity' really wanted the band to go away, then they wouldn't keep talking about them, no? Hhmm...


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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Rick » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:04 pm

Kor'n wrote:
Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.

RocknRoll wrote:1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.

Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.

LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.

1. "Journey has 5 new albums since reforming" to no avail. Do you know when the next one is coming? After-all "he can sing anything."
2. "Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry" and "still" got in the HOF before Journey.
3. "Heart" is still with its major label, Sony, while it or any other seemingly won't touch current Journey.
4. Journey makes more money than Heart, but no one to "distribute music since Walmart no longer do music." (Neal 2011/12) aka "March madness - one shot and you're out." Rather suprised that Heart solo does almost as well as Journey triple-bill, at times.
5. Heart "still got interviews with Rolling Stone" along with pic in magazine (9/2/2010 Heart Still Beating With New LP (Red Velvet), Tour'/ Heart keeps making good music years after their classic-rock peers have faded" Andy Greene, Assoc Editor). Heart performed on ABC Ice Skating and on Dancing With the Stars.
6. Foreigner's photoshoot with Rolling Stone 2013 after "open for Journey" 2011.
Foreigner Behind the Scenes
Exclusive photos from resurgent band's 2013 World Tour Campaign shoot (RS 01/22/2013)
7. Yes, and who is that singer now?, got interview, visit and review of show from RS.
8. Tommy Shaw/Styx pic w/guitar "get interview with RS" and "open for Journey."
Styx: No Reunion With Former Frontman Dennis DeYoung (RS 07/07/2011/Andy Greene, Assoc Editor)

Keep in mind all those people and others you would not think, got shoots, interviews, etc. with RS, and don't make as much money as Journey, no fake platinum album, no BB Live Legend, was not on CBS or NBC, no DSB, no movie or sob story to tell. Seemed so deliberate, and always wondered why they never bothered to do Journey, but they finally got one. Now, let's hope the poor guy, whoever he is, does not lose his job. At least that guy did not call them a tribute band. (RS 2008) Like I said as long as possible, "may they hang on to that sob story like there's no tomorrow."
RocknRoll wrote:Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.

"LIKE!" Thanks for your kindness and generosity, quite busy though, but technology and decent memory allow coverage of the world in 10 minutes so may kinda respond truthfully and authoritatively, if need be. Sorry, can't do the Top 10, in a hurry.

Kor'n the "naysayer" and historian.

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The Revelation album package went platinum, didn't it? For a classic rock band that's EPIC. I know it was two for one or whatever your argument is going to be, but it's still epic. For any classic rock band.
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby steveo777 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:48 pm

Two for one deal....whatever. It is platinum by the RIAA rules, not just written for Journey. I laugh my ass off at the dimwits that want to blame Journey's platinum album on Journey's fuzzy math. :lol:
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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Jana » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:54 pm

Gideon wrote:Still not digging the touring choices this year. Steve Miller Band I can vaguely fathom, but the Tower of fucking Power? Next tour, it'll be Kanye West.


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Re: Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believ

Postby Jana » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:57 pm

Rick wrote:
Kor'n wrote:
Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.

RocknRoll wrote:1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.

Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.

LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.

1. "Journey has 5 new albums since reforming" to no avail. Do you know when the next one is coming? After-all "he can sing anything."
2. "Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry" and "still" got in the HOF before Journey.
3. "Heart" is still with its major label, Sony, while it or any other seemingly won't touch current Journey.
4. Journey makes more money than Heart, but no one to "distribute music since Walmart no longer do music." (Neal 2011/12) aka "March madness - one shot and you're out." Rather suprised that Heart solo does almost as well as Journey triple-bill, at times.
5. Heart "still got interviews with Rolling Stone" along with pic in magazine (9/2/2010 Heart Still Beating With New LP (Red Velvet), Tour'/ Heart keeps making good music years after their classic-rock peers have faded" Andy Greene, Assoc Editor). Heart performed on ABC Ice Skating and on Dancing With the Stars.
6. Foreigner's photoshoot with Rolling Stone 2013 after "open for Journey" 2011.
Foreigner Behind the Scenes
Exclusive photos from resurgent band's 2013 World Tour Campaign shoot (RS 01/22/2013)
7. Yes, and who is that singer now?, got interview, visit and review of show from RS.
8. Tommy Shaw/Styx pic w/guitar "get interview with RS" and "open for Journey."
Styx: No Reunion With Former Frontman Dennis DeYoung (RS 07/07/2011/Andy Greene, Assoc Editor)

Keep in mind all those people and others you would not think, got shoots, interviews, etc. with RS, and don't make as much money as Journey, no fake platinum album, no BB Live Legend, was not on CBS or NBC, no DSB, no movie or sob story to tell. Seemed so deliberate, and always wondered why they never bothered to do Journey, but they finally got one. Now, let's hope the poor guy, whoever he is, does not lose his job. At least that guy did not call them a tribute band. (RS 2008) Like I said as long as possible, "may they hang on to that sob story like there's no tomorrow."
RocknRoll wrote:Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.

"LIKE!" Thanks for your kindness and generosity, quite busy though, but technology and decent memory allow coverage of the world in 10 minutes so may kinda respond truthfully and authoritatively, if need be. Sorry, can't do the Top 10, in a hurry.

Kor'n the "naysayer" and historian.

Are we done yet?


The Revelation album package went platinum, didn't it? For a classic rock band that's EPIC. I know it was two for one or whatever your argument is going to be, but it's still epic. For any classic rock band.


It ended up selling 800,000 units. So actually close to being legitimately platinum not using the fuzzy math.
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