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tater1977 wrote:Journey Recount Singer's Wild Ride in 'Don't Stop Believin'' Doc
Neal Schon, Arnel Pineda and co. chat about new film tracing Filipino frontman's unusual path
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By Steve Appleford
August 17, 2013 11:00 AM ETand will be back on the road when Journey tours next year with the Steve Miller Band and Tower of Power.
Huh, guess touring this year incognito aka no package deal.He has yet to meet Perry, but knows what he'd say if that encounter ever happened, and without a hint of sarcasm: "Can I have your autograph?"
Maybe he can copy that too, but of course Perry would have to originally write it first.In Los Angeles, Pineda, Schon, Cain and bassist Ross Valory spoke with Rolling Stone about the documentary and Journey's new era as a truly international rock act.
Was a collection taken up to pay for plane fare home from that dismal Australia tour (those numbers for real?).... Guess the Manilla hometown poor sales cancellation does not count for the "truly international [DSB] rock act"? Get Perry back and maybe they can make big bucks internationally like other US stars - Bon Jovi, Bruce, Eagles, Madonna, Usher, Beyonce, without packaging.The lead singer position is historically a very hard spot to fill.
He'll do Nat King Cole for you right now, and you'll go no way. Sing for him, Arnel. . .
And Glee will "do" DSB to make it known nationally after 30+ years.Jonathan Cain: Ironically, the Internet proved to be a friend. When Arrival first came out [in 2001], Napster stole the album. We spent a ton of money flying to New York making this record only to have it up there for fans to get it for free, so I hated the Internet. Then it comes around to serve us well in the future. It's quite a tool and for us it was a blessing.
One would think since "Napster stole the album" and had "it up there for fans to get it for free" that many people today would have it, and they would be playing those songs today.What was it like for you to suddenly be immersed in Journey's world?
Pineda: It was my world being turned upside down — but in a good way, a fantastic way. I'm still in disbelief. I'm in front of thousands of people singing all these songs that I listened to when I was 18 years old. Now I'm with the big boys and it's such a blessing. It's one in a million.
"I'm sorry, I was mistaken by just reading the headline, but I thought it was that the inevitable story had come to pass, of his world being 'turned upside down' with him quickly being fired with Steve Perry coming back, but sadly, that is not the case." 08/17/13 ("naysayer")Schon: In the very beginning, we threw him in the fire, no doubt about it. I remember we're getting ready to go on in Viña del Mar and it's sold out and it's live to 25 million people all over South America. Arnel is like, two seconds before we go on: "Can I go home? I don't want to go out." It was fear and loathing to the max, but then he went out and he went for it and the audience went nuts.
"That was yesterday and yesterday is gone." (Foreigner) Looking at 5700/6400 with Night Ranger couple of weeks ago.Other bands have tried to replace a popular singer with an unknown and failed.
Cain: It is rare that the audience goes with you like that.
"Close your eyes you would think Perry was up there on that stage."Schon: The good news is that when he came in, it was a breath of fresh air for all of us and every scenario that went with it. All of a sudden, instead of us being a band from the U.S.A., we became a worldwide band. We're accepted worldwide everywhere we went with him in markets we were never accepted before. There's always going to be the naysayers who cant live with anything but exactly what it was from the beginning. You can't please everyone.
Too bad you had to cancelled his hometown gig in Manilla. Guess he was "Gore'd" as in like Al.
Records indicate that you've sold about 47m US and about 70-80m worldwide, probably with Revelation and Eclipse accounting for a million or less worldwide.
"i was truly hoping that was the case as well. nobody likes arnel they just tolerate him barely. if perry would agree to come back they would fire arnel in less than sixty seconds without hesitation." 08/17/13 ("naysayer")I'm not trying to compete with Mr. Perry. I'm trying to help out here. I am so blessed to be in this position, to be the one to carry the legacy.
Indeed, thanks to the Eclipse.
Cain: Back in '98, when we started with Steve Augeri [as singer 1998-2006], I was worried about him getting shot. We took a lot of flack. We used to get hate mail. Somebody got my number and would call me: "You son of a bitch!" They were reading us the riot act because how dare us be Journey without Steve Perry?
"Journey is not Journey without Steve, etc." Jrny FB ("naysayers")Because of your history together, you must still have business with Steve Perry.
Ross Valory: Steve has been really, really cooperative. He helped produce the greatest hits video. It's unfortunate we don't have a physical relationship with him.
Just need to know where to send the checks since you continue trying to "rehash former glories." 2012The door's always been open. Arnel's even open. If he ever wanted to come onstage with us and do a song, we'd be like, "Come on!"
Eric wrote:Steve Miller Band and Tower of Power?
Maybe they can do some of the tunes with Tower of Power again! Loved when they did "Hold On I'm Coming" on the King Biscuit Flower Hour.
Here's Roadrunner:
http://youtu.be/n0c_IdWii5c
Not a huge Steve Miller Band fan...but a reunion for Valory, no?
Eric wrote:tp://youtu.be/UGVIgZ2Hy3A
"Hold on....I'm Coming"
I was looking for some serious talent, somebody that we could move forward with — and have serious pipes and go in new directions with us as well as cover our old stuff very well. When I found Arnel, I went, "That's the guy." I'd never heard any singer cover that broad of a spectrum. He'll do Nat King Cole for you right now, and you'll go no way. Sing for him, Arnel. . .(Neal)
Eric (2012?) wrote: "They are getting bigger and bigger."
steveo777 wrote:Even Journey thinks Kor'n is being an asshole. ^ LOL
Eric wrote:Will never understand why someone would make it a hobby to be negative at someone else's interest.
What a waste.
Eric wrote:I can't imagine spending time putting down a band people like.
Garbage.
Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.
Eric wrote:Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.
1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.
Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
Eric wrote:Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.
1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.
Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.
RocknRoll wrote:1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.
Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.
RocknRoll wrote:Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
Gideon wrote:Still not digging the touring choices this year. Steve Miller Band I can vaguely fathom, but the Tower of fucking Power? Next tour, it'll be Kanye West.
Kor'n wrote:Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.RocknRoll wrote:1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.
Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.
1. "Journey has 5 new albums since reforming" to no avail. Do you know when the next one is coming? After-all "he can sing anything."
2. "Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry" and "still" got in the HOF before Journey.
3. "Heart" is still with its major label, Sony, while it or any other seemingly won't touch current Journey.
4. Journey makes more money than Heart, but no one to "distribute music since Walmart no longer do music." (Neal 2011/12) aka "March madness - one shot and you're out." Rather suprised that Heart solo does almost as well as Journey triple-bill, at times.
5. Heart "still got interviews with Rolling Stone" along with pic in magazine (9/2/2010 Heart Still Beating With New LP (Red Velvet), Tour'/ Heart keeps making good music years after their classic-rock peers have faded" Andy Greene, Assoc Editor). Heart performed on ABC Ice Skating and on Dancing With the Stars.
6. Foreigner's photoshoot with Rolling Stone 2013 after "open for Journey" 2011.
Foreigner Behind the Scenes
Exclusive photos from resurgent band's 2013 World Tour Campaign shoot (RS 01/22/2013)
7. Yes, and who is that singer now?, got interview, visit and review of show from RS.
8. Tommy Shaw/Styx pic w/guitar "get interview with RS" and "open for Journey."
Styx: No Reunion With Former Frontman Dennis DeYoung (RS 07/07/2011/Andy Greene, Assoc Editor)
Keep in mind all those people and others you would not think, got shoots, interviews, etc. with RS, and don't make as much money as Journey, no fake platinum album, no BB Live Legend, was not on CBS or NBC, no DSB, no movie or sob story to tell. Seemed so deliberate, and always wondered why they never bothered to do Journey, but they finally got one. Now, let's hope the poor guy, whoever he is, does not lose his job. At least that guy did not call them a tribute band. (RS 2008) Like I said as long as possible, "may they hang on to that sob story like there's no tomorrow."RocknRoll wrote:Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
"LIKE!" Thanks for your kindness and generosity, quite busy though, but technology and decent memory allow coverage of the world in 10 minutes so may kinda respond truthfully and authoritatively, if need be. Sorry, can't do the Top 10, in a hurry.
Kor'n the "naysayer" and historian.
Are we done yet?
Gideon wrote:Still not digging the touring choices this year. Steve Miller Band I can vaguely fathom, but the Tower of fucking Power? Next tour, it'll be Kanye West.
Rick wrote:Kor'n wrote:Kor'n wrote:Now leave it alone Eric, and accept the band for what they are, tribute/cover, and will never be again, A Real Journey with Steve Perry. Just imagine if Perry were with them when DSB was going strong, Sony, etc. would be pushing them, not just the music, like a "baby in a stroller." Maybe they would not be going from CBS to PBS. Heart did a CD, book and into the HOF in two nominations.RocknRoll wrote:1. Journey has 5 new albums since reforming
2. Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry.
Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
LIKE! And they still get interviews with Rolling Stone, much as I dislike that pub.
1. "Journey has 5 new albums since reforming" to no avail. Do you know when the next one is coming? After-all "he can sing anything."
2. "Heart, as great as they are, open for Journey...even without Perry" and "still" got in the HOF before Journey.
3. "Heart" is still with its major label, Sony, while it or any other seemingly won't touch current Journey.
4. Journey makes more money than Heart, but no one to "distribute music since Walmart no longer do music." (Neal 2011/12) aka "March madness - one shot and you're out." Rather suprised that Heart solo does almost as well as Journey triple-bill, at times.
5. Heart "still got interviews with Rolling Stone" along with pic in magazine (9/2/2010 Heart Still Beating With New LP (Red Velvet), Tour'/ Heart keeps making good music years after their classic-rock peers have faded" Andy Greene, Assoc Editor). Heart performed on ABC Ice Skating and on Dancing With the Stars.
6. Foreigner's photoshoot with Rolling Stone 2013 after "open for Journey" 2011.
Foreigner Behind the Scenes
Exclusive photos from resurgent band's 2013 World Tour Campaign shoot (RS 01/22/2013)
7. Yes, and who is that singer now?, got interview, visit and review of show from RS.
8. Tommy Shaw/Styx pic w/guitar "get interview with RS" and "open for Journey."
Styx: No Reunion With Former Frontman Dennis DeYoung (RS 07/07/2011/Andy Greene, Assoc Editor)
Keep in mind all those people and others you would not think, got shoots, interviews, etc. with RS, and don't make as much money as Journey, no fake platinum album, no BB Live Legend, was not on CBS or NBC, no DSB, no movie or sob story to tell. Seemed so deliberate, and always wondered why they never bothered to do Journey, but they finally got one. Now, let's hope the poor guy, whoever he is, does not lose his job. At least that guy did not call them a tribute band. (RS 2008) Like I said as long as possible, "may they hang on to that sob story like there's no tomorrow."RocknRoll wrote:Keep spending your time on something you don't like though. By all means. Seems productive.
"LIKE!" Thanks for your kindness and generosity, quite busy though, but technology and decent memory allow coverage of the world in 10 minutes so may kinda respond truthfully and authoritatively, if need be. Sorry, can't do the Top 10, in a hurry.
Kor'n the "naysayer" and historian.
Are we done yet?
The Revelation album package went platinum, didn't it? For a classic rock band that's EPIC. I know it was two for one or whatever your argument is going to be, but it's still epic. For any classic rock band.
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