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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:00 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:So much for TDKIII being the last. I saw Frank Miller will be doing TDKIV.


No shit?! Whoa.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:01 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:I can hear the sucking of drool buildup and swallowing from the corner of Monker's mouth just dying for Supergirl to get cancelled just to have the I told you so posts.

1st seasons are always like this and though SG's bound to lose ratings like any other show, it's not going anywhere. It's only 3 epidosde's in including the pilot. She'll get renewed. It's a fun show.


Isn't it already renewed?

Monker doesn't know CBS owns CW, but don't tell him, shhhh... :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:07 am

I tell ya, the more I learn about The Force Awakens...

...the more I look forward to BvS!
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:34 am

I thought I heard about SG being renewed but I'm not sure if it's official.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:08 am

BvS trailer in front of Creed!

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:29 am

Mark Millar wrote about how MoS "traumatised" him because that wasn't the "Superman of the last 75 years" that he knew and wanted (so much for the people who argue that that's not the case with anybody), but he ultimately accepted the movie within its own context, and Zod's demise.

The funny part is that Millar is the creator of Kick-Ass, and other violent, edgy characters and comics.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:51 am

verslibre wrote:Mark Millar wrote about how MoS "traumatised" him because that wasn't the "Superman of the last 75 years" that he knew and wanted (so much for the people who argue that that's not the case with anybody), but he ultimately accepted the movie within its own context, and Zod's demise.

The funny part is that Millar is the creator of Kick-Ass, and other violent, edgy characters and comics.



Lmao, traumatized. Bah gawd. It's a hypocritical statement, as usual. He understands the context, but doesn't understand the origin situation. He says it's not the Superman of the past 77 years but in MoS, he's not supposed to be. That's the entire point of Superman's story arc in this DCEU. He's going to become the classic Superman when it's all said and done, there's no doubt and it'll be fun. If more people used their brain instead of being traumatized (lol) then they'd understand that. It makes MoS all the better for me.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:06 am

Also saw Millar said MoS inspired him to write his new comic series. That's awesome. If MoS is inspiring writers to create, it did its job since it's the base of the creation. Snyder must be smiling his ass off, because he dared to tell a different Superman story that asked if it was okay for a character like him to act in a difficult situation and people have takin notice. It's great for the character and a building block.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:15 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Also saw Millar said MoS inspired him to write his new comic series. That's awesome. If MoS is inspiring writers to create, it did its job since it's the base of the creation. Snyder must be smiling his ass off, because he dared to tell a different Superman story that asked if it was okay for a character like him to act in a difficult situation and people have takin notice. It's great for the character and a building block.


Yeah, he said it inspired him to create a character/story/comic more lightweight/campy/whatever in tone, and that's fine and dandy, except in his wake he leaves concepts like Kick-Ass, which embraced violence like few other comics have. I mean stuff they didn't show in either movie, like some dude getting his crotch blown out with a gun. :lol:

Millar probably doesn't want that other story he wrote (the one where a gay guy is forced to bang his sister, or something like that) mentioned, either. :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:21 am

P.S. Superman (1978) is one of his five favorite films, so there you go.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:09 am

It's almost like people are unaware that MoS reflects modern Superman comics and many of the concepts were takin' from the source material and current comics; even lines from All Star Superman, Earth One, For Tomorrow and Secret Origin, which Geoff Johns wrote, who is coincidentally involved in the blueprint of overseeing the DCEU, and especially The Batman. MoS raised some questions and tweaked the mythos, but the core of the character was there. People are just so keen on Reeve and SM:TM that they refuse to see that this is a modern cinematic Superman that's going to grow and evolve.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:20 pm

It's two-thirds ignorance and denial.

The gamechanger arrives in March. :!:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:52 pm

verslibre wrote: The gamechanger arrives in March. :!:


You're Zod-damn right it does.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:08 am

!!!!!!!!!!!

The first official image of WonderGal from the film-in-progress:

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:31 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:It's almost like people are unaware that MoS reflects modern Superman comics and many of the concepts were takin' from the source material and current comics; even lines from All Star Superman, Earth One, For Tomorrow and Secret Origin, which Geoff Johns wrote, who is coincidentally involved in the blueprint of overseeing the DCEU, and especially The Batman. MoS raised some questions and tweaked the mythos, but the core of the character was there. People are just so keen on Reeve and SM:TM that they refuse to see that this is a modern cinematic Superman that's going to grow and evolve.


Of course they're not taking MoS as redefining 50yrs of film history. This is film, not the comics. People who know Superman from film know him from Christopher Reeves, maybe Lois and Clark, and maybe George Reeve. All of this stuff you think is canon by pointing the comics most movie goers don't know or care about.

For BvS to truly be a "game changer", all that work should have been done before hand.

And, really, "Creed"? "Civil War" is attached to SW:TFA. TFA is probably going to generate as much in presales as Creed generates in its first week. They could have done a lot better than "Creed".
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:35 am

Monker wrote:"Civil War" is attached to SW:TFA.


OH, REALLY???!!!! :lol:

Gee. I wonder why! :lol:
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:37 am

Monker wrote:Of course they're not taking MoS as redefining 50yrs of film history. This is film, not the comics. People who know Superman from film know him from Christopher Reeves


One little tidbit: the 1978 film? In a couple years it'll be forty years old.

Monker wrote:TFA is probably going to generate as much in presales as Creed generates in its first week.


Thanks for enlightening us, Gandalf. That film could be mostly about Jar Jar Binks and it'd made a frakload of money simply because the legacy characters are in it.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:46 am

verslibre wrote:!!!!!!!!!!!

The first official image of WonderGal from the film-in-progress:

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Gal looks absolutely stunningly gorgeous in the first Wondy pic. Gorgeous Gal! She looks great for the role. Elegant and warm. I'm loving this.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:50 am

Monker wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:It's almost like people are unaware that MoS reflects modern Superman comics and many of the concepts were takin' from the source material and current comics; even lines from All Star Superman, Earth One, For Tomorrow and Secret Origin, which Geoff Johns wrote, who is coincidentally involved in the blueprint of overseeing the DCEU, and especially The Batman. MoS raised some questions and tweaked the mythos, but the core of the character was there. People are just so keen on Reeve and SM:TM that they refuse to see that this is a modern cinematic Superman that's going to grow and evolve.


Of course they're not taking MoS as redefining 50yrs of film history. This is film, not the comics. People who know Superman from film know him from Christopher Reeves, maybe Lois and Clark, and maybe George Reeve. All of this stuff you think is canon by pointing the comics most movie goers don't know or care about.

For BvS to truly be a "game changer", all that work should have been done before hand.

And, really, "Creed"? "Civil War" is attached to SW:TFA. TFA is probably going to generate as much in presales as Creed generates in its first week. They could have done a lot better than "Creed".


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I wasn't referencing the audience I was referencing Mark Millar, who is in the business of comic books making those statements. I find it funny and hypocritical coming from somebody like him who knows the comic book side of things. And BvS trailer will show before Star Wars. If it's going to show before Creed, it will be out in theaters and will play for TFAwakens. Still not sure if it will play before Creed. Nothing is confirmed.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:54 am

Superman Resumes failed because it didn't include this scene. :lol:

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:21 am

verslibre wrote:Superman Resumes failed because it didn't include this scene. :lol:

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The neck snap should have been done on the kid in SR, too. I would have actually liked that, haha. Just think, that is the Superman everyone loves and claims the real Superman to be. Silver Age whackieness.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:30 pm

verslibre wrote:
Monker wrote:Of course they're not taking MoS as redefining 50yrs of film history. This is film, not the comics. People who know Superman from film know him from Christopher Reeves


One little tidbit: the 1978 film? In a couple years it'll be forty years old.


So? It's still shown all the time. It is what people know...and it's starting to seem that people may prefer it over MoS.

Monker wrote:TFA is probably going to generate as much in presales as Creed generates in its first week.


Thanks for enlightening us, Gandalf. That film could be mostly about Jar Jar Binks and it'd made a frakload of money simply because the legacy characters are in it.


My point has NOTHING to do with how good or bad TFA is going to be. The point is the most coveted trailer spot this year has got to be with TFA. The number of people who are going to see those trailers is just HUGE. We all know this is a film that is going to set records for sales...and all of those people who see it are going to see the Civil War trailer. That is a HUGE promo boost for that film.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:32 pm

Monker wrote:My point has NOTHING to do with how good or bad TFA is going to be. The point is the most coveted trailer spot this year has got to be with TFA. The number of people who are going to see those trailers is just HUGE. We all know this is a film that is going to set records for sales...and all of those people who see it are going to see the Civil War trailer. That is a HUGE promo boost for that film.


Same difference. MY point about TFA being what it is directly correlates to the predestined success it will enjoy. Like Dom DeLuise's Caesar in History of the World, Part 1, Disney's going to take a..."Treasure bath! Treasure bath!"

Advance ticket sales are beyond the 50M mark. Yes, the number of people who will see anything in front of it is nigh unfathomable, nobody is disputing that. But simply because a BvS trailer screened before Ant-Man doesn't mean they're going to afford BvS the same courtesy with TFA.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:26 am

The majority of trailers get watched online these days. Whatever screens in front of TFA is irrelevant. I watched the BvS trailer multiple times - all online. Same with the TFA trailer, which I finally saw theatrically attached to 007. Get with the times, Monker. You're living in the past.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby Monker » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:31 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The majority of trailers get watched online these days. Whatever screens in front of TFA is irrelevant. I watched the BvS trailer multiple times - all online. Same with the TFA trailer, which I finally saw theatrically attached to 007. Get with the times, Monker. You're living in the past.


That is irrelevant. The fact that the trailers before TFA are being exposed to tens of millions of people is what matters.

And, I bet the people at Disney also disagree with you.

Sure, there are those who go and search for all the latest "stuff". YouTube and the like attract certain people....but it's not every movie goer.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby YoungJRNYfan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:27 pm

Great interview by Variety with Affleck and the pressure of BvS. The excitment is growing:

‘Batman v Superman’: Ben Affleck on ‘Ton of Pressure’ to Succeed, Exploiting DC Comics
“They are now developing … probably the single greatest under-exploited IP asset in the entertainment business, the DC comic world. And now they have started to exploit that and you are going to see that blossom. And, when it does, it’s going to be massive.”

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batma ... 201647796/
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

Postby verslibre » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:44 pm

^Woot!

Plus: tomorrow is the day DKIII arrives!
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