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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:56 am

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Simply put (as apposed the lengthy legal talk in your article) Social Security benefits are directly tied to the rate of inflation. Since there has been no inflation, there is no increase.

It has NOTHING to do with congress. Therefore, the pic he posted is a complete misrepresentation of reality and it is nothing but propaganda.


Monker, does not all the money that goes into our government for whatever purpose ultimately come from money that "we the people" worked for? Within that context EVERYTHING that gets paid for out of that money is connected whether a raise for the already overpaid congress or the lack of one for social security recipients

I'm afraid you're the one who is either terribly naive or trying desperately to hold on to an ideology if you think anything in Washington is done according to an unalterable and unfailing mathematical process or set of rules. They can, will, and have done anything they want to with whatever pool of money they want for whatever purpose.

That's what happened to the untouchable social security fund. They rob Peter to pay Paul as standard operating procedure and find a way to justify it later.

If you don't believe this I'm happy for you. I wish I was still that full of ideological naivete.


I don't disagree with much of that.

However, saying congress wants a raise and Social Security did not get a raise this year are two "facts" slammed together for political propaganda. It's no different then the senator who brought in a snowball to prove that global warming isn't happening. It's all theatrics designed to get an emotional knee jerk reaction....propaganda.


Ok, but isn't most of politics posturing for the best possible reaction ( propaganda)?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:19 pm

Watching this clip, I am struck by how the Queen cackles before Chuck Toady even asks his question. It's as if she knew the softball coming in advance. Which, of course, she does. Once Bernie loses, I am proudly voting for Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjDwxa ... pp=desktop
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:56 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Watching this clip, I am struck by how the Queen cackles before Chuck Toady even asks his question. It's as if she knew the softball coming in advance. Which, of course, she does. Once Bernie loses, I am proudly voting for Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjDwxa ... pp=desktop


And, what if Trump loses the nomination at the convention? I spose maybe he could run in a third party. LOL
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:05 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Watching this clip, I am struck by how the Queen cackles before Chuck Toady even asks his question. It's as if she knew the softball coming in advance. Which, of course, she does. Once Bernie loses, I am proudly voting for Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjDwxa ... pp=desktop


And, what if Trump loses the nomination at the convention? I spose maybe he could run in a third party. LOL


Either way, Hillary stands no chance, so you lose. Hillary is Jeb Bush in a pants suit. It took Trump to end the Bush dynasty. Whatever happens, Jeb will now forever be known as "low energy." Just wait until Trump brands Hillary as an aider and abettor of her serial rapist husband.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:41 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Clinton, both Bush's, Obama, all the same TNC. One World Economy Liberal Progressives, and Hillary has promised to continue. Here's one the conservatives will go, "knew it", and the liberals will be shocked.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/ ... ign=buffer


Their are only two people on the planet that thought for one moment that the nuclear weapons deal with Iran was actually going to do anything. They were B.O. and his Secretary of State lackey John "Ketchup" Kerry. Can't wait to see the nuclear weapons deal they cook up with North Korea.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:33 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Watching this clip, I am struck by how the Queen cackles before Chuck Toady even asks his question. It's as if she knew the softball coming in advance. Which, of course, she does. Once Bernie loses, I am proudly voting for Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjDwxa ... pp=desktop


And, what if Trump loses the nomination at the convention? I spose maybe he could run in a third party. LOL


Either way, Hillary stands no chance, so you lose. Hillary is Jeb Bush in a pants suit. It took Trump to end the Bush dynasty. Whatever happens, Jeb will now forever be known as "low energy." Just wait until Trump brands Hillary as an aider and abettor of her serial rapist husband.


You're wrong. Trump has already lost everything. If he stays, he alienates half the Republican party. If the RNC kicks him out, the RNC alienates half the Republican party. If he goes third party, he alienates half the Republican party. In addition, all of these demographics that Trump has insulted are engaged to up the Democrat vote. No matter what happens, The Republicans lose - and lose badly. At this point, the Democrats can run Dukakis and win by 10pts.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:09 pm

May I have some of those drugs, Monker? :mrgreen:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:06 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Watching this clip, I am struck by how the Queen cackles before Chuck Toady even asks his question. It's as if she knew the softball coming in advance. Which, of course, she does. Once Bernie loses, I am proudly voting for Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjDwxa ... pp=desktop


If Trump loses I'm voting for whoever is the Democratic nominee. I wish I believed it could be Bernie.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:49 am

steveo777 wrote:May I have some of those drugs, Monker? :mrgreen:


Even congress has a higher approval rating than Trump. That should make any Trump fan sober up.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:07 am

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steveo777 wrote:May I have some of those drugs, Monker? :mrgreen:


Even congress has a higher approval rating than Trump. That should make any Trump fan sober up.


After tossing out a record number of liberals, congress approval rating should be going up.


Republicans have been winning seats in congress for the last few elections and it hasn't meant shit. In fact, part of the establishment rebellion and rise of Trump is BECAUSE Republicans winning hasn't meant shit. You are so ridiculous, go back and read your own posts where you bash Beohner and McConnell. All Republicans know how to do is be obstructionists and that is part of what has caused so much anger. Republicans don't DO anything, in fact they try to get as little done as possible.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:10 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Thank you for making the point of why Trump and Cruz are so popular. What a moron! :roll:


Of course that's one of your points.

But, the point you made in the post I was replying to is that more Republicans in congress makes congress more popular. That is simply not true. In fact, Trump and Cruz have made the Republican party so dysfunctional that Democrats are going to gain a lot of seats in congress and the Republican party gets gang schlonged.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:15 am

Monker wrote:Republicans have been winning seats in congress for the last few elections and it hasn't meant shit. In fact, part of the establishment rebellion and rise of Trump is BECAUSE Republicans winning hasn't meant shit...............

................ All Republicans know how to do is be obstructionists and that is part of what has caused so much anger. Republicans don't DO anything, in fact they try to get as little done as possible.


I agree with this completely. It's why I'm pulling for Trump. I don't think anything is going to change if Hillary gets elected. I think either Bernie or Trump would send a message to the establishment that the people are fed up with the status quo and won't settle for it any longer. I just like Trump's ideas on what to do about our out-of-control immigration and terrorism problems better than anybody else's.

If the party takes this nomination away from Trump, the republican party is done. If he did run as a third party then he would take his true supporters with him including Reps, Dems, and Indies. He would beat whatever Rep candidate they run and Bernie if he gets the Dem nomination by some miracle, but he can't beat the Clinton machine.

I think the House and Senate will go blue in the next election as a backlash against the Rep party for screwing Trump and maybe some of our economic problems will get fixed, but our immigration and terrorism problems probably won't.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:09 am

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:48 am

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But, but, the Iran Peace Treaty is working so well. :roll:


I think old Bernie is on to something here. I think he should plan a trip to the Middle East and hold a summit with ISIS. Once he strikes a deal with them, he will win the election by a landslide! Go Bernie!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:04 pm

Fact Finder wrote:The Bern is the first person whose head would come off, he's to old and dumb to know this. :roll:


I heard that Bernie is thinking about changing his name to Chamberlain.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:49 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker, republicans ran on, and were elected too obstruct Obama. The reason Boehnor and McConnell are so unpopular is because they didn't. Even Ryan caught hell for approving Obama's budget and had to defend himself.


LOL! That is absolutely HILLARIOUS. It is a documented FACT that all three of them, along with Paul Cantor, conspired together to obstruct anything Obama proposed and limit him to ONE TERM. When you look at the record in congress, it is PROVEN. No other President in history has had to deal with such obstruction.

The truth is Republicans bet so far on obstruction, and dove so far into it, that now they can't get out and get anything done, even if they rule both houses. You can't legislate without some compromise. If you are unwilling to even show up at the table, nothing will get signed.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:48 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker, republicans ran on, and were elected too obstruct Obama. The reason Boehnor and McConnell are so unpopular is because they didn't.


What bullshit. From the stimulus to obamacare to even the current supreme court nominee, Obama has been blocked at every turn.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:08 pm

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But, but, the Iran Peace Treaty is working so well. :roll:


I think old Bernie is on to something here. I think he should plan a trip to the Middle East and hold a summit with ISIS. Once he strikes a deal with them, he will win the election by a landslide! Go Bernie!


This a fabricated quote. Either you were too dumb to realize this - or more likely, simply too dishonest to care. This is the equivalent of falling asleep at the office, someone scribbling "I love clown dick" on your forehead, and then everyone taking for granted that you give brain to Pennywise the dancing clown. If you can't decipher a fake meme from truth, why should you be entrusted with the privilege of voting? Your judgement is garbage.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:56 am

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker, republicans ran on, and were elected too obstruct Obama. The reason Boehnor and McConnell are so unpopular is because they didn't.


What bullshit. From the stimulus to obamacare to even the current supreme court nominee, Obama has been blocked at every turn.


Exactly, the reps let it be known from the day he was elected that their ONLY mission for his term was to make sure it was he ONLY term. They didn't give a shit about the people of this country. All they wanted was to be IN POWER.

The reason Obamacare sucks now is because the Republicans with whom he DID consult insisted that the big Pharma and Insurance Gods must be appeased by whatever system was developed. Now they run against the system that they absolutely had a hand in screwing up.

I have no respect at all for anybody of the current, establishment republican party, Mitch McConnell least of all.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:58 am

Bernie won Wyoming today. I believe this is his eighth consecutive win. Can somebody explain how Hillary is the "clear" front-runner when she keeps losing?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:20 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Bernie won Wyoming today. I believe this is his eighth consecutive win. Can somebody explain how Hillary is the "clear" front-runner when she keeps losing?


The delegates have been arranged to crown the queen. Bernie can continue to beat the hell out of Hillary in the primaries, but she has all those superdelegates on her side. The rules were put in place to keep outsiders and grassroots opponents from gaining enough ground to be nominated. In other words, the DNC has made their choice and Bernie ain't the one.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:26 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Bernie won Wyoming today. I believe this is his eighth consecutive win. Can somebody explain how Hillary is the "clear" front-runner when she keeps losing?


The delegates have been arranged to crown the queen. Bernie can continue to beat the hell out of Hillary in the primaries, but she has all those superdelegates on her side. The rules were put in place to keep outsiders and grassroots opponents from gaining enough ground to be nominated. In other words, the DNC has made their choice and Bernie ain't the one.

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Steve0, cant they still switch if they choose too? or are they permanently committed?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:59 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Bernie won Wyoming today. I believe this is his eighth consecutive win. Can somebody explain how Hillary is the "clear" front-runner when she keeps losing?


The delegates have been arranged to crown the queen. Bernie can continue to beat the hell out of Hillary in the primaries, but she has all those superdelegates on her side. The rules were put in place to keep outsiders and grassroots opponents from gaining enough ground to be nominated. In other words, the DNC has made their choice and Bernie ain't the one.

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Steve0, cant they still switch if they choose too? or are they permanently committed?


Yes, they can switch, but most credible information out there indicates that not enough of them will. Most are solidly in favor of Clinton. In a fairer world, the delegates should be distributed according to who is winning each of the primary states. If Bernie continues to beat Hillary, going forward, there is a good argument and probably going to be a lot of pressure to go with the popular choice, but time will tell what actually happens. It's astonishing to to me that the front runners of the GOP and the Democrats have the highest unfavorable ratings of any of the candidates.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:08 am

Clinton is the front runner because she has won more delegates. Yes, Bernie has won some smaller states and gained ground, but Clinton is still ahead. And, she'll win New York, and probably Pennsylvania. Both are states with a LOT of delegates. That is why Bernie has struggled...he does not do as well in states with a lot of diversity and large populations of minorities. The only state I can think of is Michigan, as an exception. These are the exact groups that the Democrats need to attract in the general election to win big and make gains in congress.

Clinton is ahead even if you don't count the "super" delegates. However, the process the Democrats are going through is a lot smoother than what the Republicans are facing...heading to the convention without a clear nominee. At least with the "super delegates" everybody will know who has won...and it should stop riots, which I almost EXPECT at the Republican convention...despite who is nominated.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:09 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Hillary Cinton. just a regular, run of the mill New Yorker. This STAGED BULL just isn't working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgzPBR ... 3ZUpzRMMPe


Yeah, her campaign is so horrible that she has a 16pt lead, and that's according to FOX.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:29 pm

its funny that Bernies winning,, but Hillary's gettin the delegates...

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:23 pm

Monker wrote:That is why Bernie has struggled...he does not do as well in states with a lot of diversity and large populations of minorities.

Tell that to the Polynesians of Hawaii and the Eskimos of Alaska. Racist!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:25 pm

Monker wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Hillary Cinton. just a regular, run of the mill New Yorker. This STAGED BULL just isn't working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgzPBR ... 3ZUpzRMMPe


Yeah, her campaign is so horrible that she has a 16pt lead, and that's according to FOX.

Who gives a shit? She's running on overturning Citizens United while swimming in all sorts of dirty money. She's a liar, and hypocrites like you are part of the problem.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:41 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Hillary Cinton. just a regular, run of the mill New Yorker. This STAGED BULL just isn't working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgzPBR ... 3ZUpzRMMPe


Yeah, her campaign is so horrible that she has a 16pt lead, and that's according to FOX.

Who gives a shit? She's running on overturning Citizens United while swimming in all sorts of dirty money. She's a liar, and hypocrites like you are part of the problem.


How am I a hypocrite? All I am saying is she is going to win...and it seems to me that most the people here are in denial about it.,

She will win NY. She will win PN....and she will be the nominee, super delegates or not...and Sanders will endorse her. Then the fractured and screwed up Republican party won't have a chance...especially if Trump runs third party.
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