DC Extended Universe THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

One guy said he feels bad for Snyder because this was the movie he made before WB ripped it up to provide a shorter runtime. When the suits get involved to ruin an obvious better movie, I get heated. I may have to digitally DL the UC. I don't think I can wait until July 19th.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Breaking: "Game of Thrones Season 06 cinematographer for "The Battle of The Bastards" and "The Winds of Winter" Fabien Wagner is the cinematographer for the upcoming JUSTICE LEAGUE movie!"

[verslibre]

Batman V Superman Ultimate Cut just released digitally online. Lots of great reports. Collider just sat down and did their roundtable review and they all loved it. They are left scratching their head on why WB didn't release this version into theaters. Even Jon Schnepp, who destroyed BvS, praised it.

Collider: Batman V Superman Ultimate Cut review (spoilers):
https://youtu.be/nSI2w1Q_PXk

When Jon Schnepp says he likes the UC, that's all haters need to hear. I expect Faraci to chime in any second.

[verslibre]

"...I never thought I'd say this, but man, I actually really liked this version of the movie."

[verslibre]

JL concept art from the Ultimate Edition. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmAlFohUsAAPxBZ.jpg

[YoungJRNYfan]

"...I never thought I'd say this, but man, I actually really liked this version of the movie."

Schnepp: " I needed to take a piss and ran to the bathroom. I didn't want to miss a single second. Every chance I get, I'll destroy the theatrical cut. If you're going to watch Batman V Superman, watch the Ultimate Cut and not the theatrical. I gave the theatrical cut a 7 and bumped it down to 6.5. I give the UC a 8.5. It went up 2 solid points. Night and day."

[verslibre]

Reviews of the UE on Amazon are going up. Quite a few 5 & 4-star reviews getting posted.

[YoungJRNYfan]

[YoungJRNYfan]

Reviews of the UE on Amazon are going up. Quite a few 5 & 4-star reviews getting posted.

Over 701 reviews already and it's sitting at 4/5 stars and is Amazon's #1 Best DVD/Blu-ray seller.



It'll be a loaded #1 come July 19th.

[verslibre]

Hughes!

More than three months ago, I (rightly) proclaimed Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice a triumph. Today, a lot of people are finally catching up. That’s a bit of an intentionally teasing overstatement, but whatever differences of opinion and taste separated critics and audiences over the theatrical version of the film, a great deal of common ground was discovered as Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition hit theaters and Digital-HD this week. While not everyone changed their “hated it” ratings to “loved it” after viewing the new 3 hour edit of the film, it appears most so far are declaring the longer version a big improvement, moving the film out of the “bad” column and into the “good.”

I told you months ago that I believed Batman v Superman’s reputation would improve with hindsight, and that a director’s cut would win over a lot of haters. Well, that process got underway even faster than I expected when the Ultimate Edition got its one-night theatrical release last night and hit Digital-HD hours later. If nothing else, I hope those who spent months bashing Snyder and insisting he can’t tell stories and/or that he doesn’t develop characters, will remember this was Snyder’s original version of the film and there was in fact some expectation for a longer theatrical cut than we wound up getting. I’ll understand and respect the sentiment that this isn’t a film someone enjoys (taste is taste, preference is preference, and reasonable people can disagree), or that it’s not their preferences for how to portray these characters; but any claim that it’s literally a badly made movie and/or that Snyder literally isn’t a good filmmaker is just nonsense.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/06/28/review-batman-v-superman-ultimate-edition-expands-story-and-wins-praise/#83020ed62252

[verslibre]

Trav, check this out...the original cover of Superman vs. Muhammed Ali, circa 1976...by Joe Kubert!

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kqwQqR-3C-o/V2cJS63f9SI/AAAAAAABStA/DgvSaj2rjBwGyvsfhoPZNHVFBG4MYiNtQCLcB/s1600/Amazing%2BWorld%2Bof%2BDC%2BComics%2B1974%2B%2523012_p040.jpg

[Monker]

And, that is why you can't always trust Amazon reviews. Almost all of these people have not even seen the longer edit but feel they are able to review it. Most are either reviewing it based on the short version, guessing based on other reviews, or simply trying to bump up, or push down, the rating. I doubt more than 50 of these people have seen the new edit.

Reviews of the UE on Amazon are going up. Quite a few 5 & 4-star reviews getting posted.

Over 701 reviews already and it's sitting at 4/5 stars and is Amazon's #1 Best DVD/Blu-ray seller.



It'll be a loaded #1 come July 19th.

[Monker]

That sounds like a reviewer trying desperately to prove himself right.

I told you a year ago that the movie would suck. Neener, neener, neener.

I also told you a year or so ago that to make it good it would be the length of two movies. So, to make it "good" it has to be over three hours long. Again, neener, neener, neener.

Snyder should have known these things....I did.

Hughes!

More than three months ago, I (rightly) proclaimed Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice a triumph. Today, a lot of people are finally catching up. That’s a bit of an intentionally teasing overstatement, but whatever differences of opinion and taste separated critics and audiences over the theatrical version of the film, a great deal of common ground was discovered as Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition hit theaters and Digital-HD this week. While not everyone changed their “hated it” ratings to “loved it” after viewing the new 3 hour edit of the film, it appears most so far are declaring the longer version a big improvement, moving the film out of the “bad” column and into the “good.”

I told you months ago that I believed Batman v Superman’s reputation would improve with hindsight, and that a director’s cut would win over a lot of haters. Well, that process got underway even faster than I expected when the Ultimate Edition got its one-night theatrical release last night and hit Digital-HD hours later. If nothing else, I hope those who spent months bashing Snyder and insisting he can’t tell stories and/or that he doesn’t develop characters, will remember this was Snyder’s original version of the film and there was in fact some expectation for a longer theatrical cut than we wound up getting. I’ll understand and respect the sentiment that this isn’t a film someone enjoys (taste is taste, preference is preference, and reasonable people can disagree), or that it’s not their preferences for how to portray these characters; but any claim that it’s literally a badly made movie and/or that Snyder literally isn’t a good filmmaker is just nonsense.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/06/28/review-batman-v-superman-ultimate-edition-expands-story-and-wins-praise/#83020ed62252

[Rip Rokken]

Got home from Los Angeles today to find my pre-order on the Extended Edition on VUDU fulfilled and am watching it now. LOVING the extra footage, and it makes a great film even stronger. I didn't realize the photog who gets shot in the early desert scene was Jimmy Olsen until now.

Btw, did the Warner Bros. Studios tour this weekend and it was MOS/BvS/Suicide Squad HEAVEN - they had EVERYTHING you can imagine from the films, including the huge 'False God' Superman statue disassembled and scattered around the lot. I touched the BvS Batmobile! ALL of the Batmobiles were operational, drivable vehicles. Tons of props and every costume you can think of!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Damn RIP that is awesome man. I would love the WB tour one day. I'd mark out bigtime. I'd steal the MOS suit, but I already have a replica in my man cave! Booyah.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Just logged onto FB now RIP. Hot damn! Thanks for sending those over. Looks amazing dude. Glad you had a good time! Bigtime jealous!

[verslibre]

I doubt more than 50 of these people have seen the new edit.

You're full of crap. As usual.

[verslibre]

That sounds like a reviewer trying desperately to prove himself right.

Better get the early onset Alzheimer's checked. Mark Hughes writes for Forbes and is one of those who has carried the torch for BvS since the very beginning. I've mentioned him before. He's interviewed Zack & Deb Snyder and Charles Roven. He writes about DC all the time. Scott Mendelson is another Forbes writer who's more critical of DC but he focuses more on movie grosses.

I told you a year ago that the movie would suck. Neener, neener, neener.

I told you a year ago that you're full of crap. Guess what? You still are.

[verslibre]

Btw, did the Warner Bros. Studios tour this weekend and it was MOS/BvS/Suicide Squad HEAVEN - they had EVERYTHING you can imagine from the films,

I have to go back to the website to see if they added pix. The tour sounds amazing. NIce job!

including the huge 'False God' Superman statue disassembled and scattered around the lot. I touched the BvS Batmobile! ALL of the Batmobiles were operational, drivable vehicles. Tons of props and every costume you can think of!

Sweeeet!

[Monker]

Gear up for the DCEU. It's not going anywhere. It'll catch steam.

I thought You said BvS was going to light the fire. If SS underperforms you're going to see a lot more changes to the schedule.

Yep...WB is a business and wants to make money. If another Space Jam will make them more money, then that is what they will eventually do. If all DC can bring WB is "artistic" films that break even or barely make money, that WB will eventually not be so enthused about making them and will lower their priority in favor of films that DO make big money.

[verslibre]

Gear up for the DCEU. It's not going anywhere. It'll catch steam.

I thought You said BvS was going to light the fire. If SS underperforms you're going to see a lot more changes to the schedule.

Yep...WB is a business and wants to make money. If another Space Jam will make them more money, then that is what they will eventually do. If all DC can bring WB is "artistic" films that break even or barely make money, that WB will eventually not be so enthused about making them and will lower their priority in favor of films that DO make big money.

Pop quiz: WHICH of these two films has moved into profit, and which has yet to break even after both production and marketing budgets have been added up:

1. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
2. X-Men: Apocalypse

Take your best educated guess.

Another WB film currently out: The Conjuring 2. Budget: $40 million. Gross to date: 89.5M domestic, $245,201,173 worldwide. Looks like a hit from here...how about over there?

So have you watched BvS yet? Go ahead and watch the Ultimate Edition cut. People are digging it. So will you. Fear not.

[Deb]

You rock, Trav !! Thanks!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Pop quiz: WHICH of these two films has moved into profit, and which has yet to break even after both production and marketing budgets have been added up:

1. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
2. X-Men: Apocalypse

Take your best educated guess.

Apocalypse is generally regarded as a financial failure. The expectation was for Batman vs. Superman to do Star Wars or Avengers type money.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Star Wars? HELL NAW!

Avengers? Maybe pushing AoU money at the BEST case scenerio. I think the most fair comparison was maybe IM3 money at 1.2 billion (that movie didn't deserve to pass the 1bil threshold in the slightest. )

BvS still set a ton of things up and the story isn't quite all there yet for the audience to expect such a payoff, satisfactory-wise. BvS obviously didn't hit expectations, but expectations and what could happen at the worse case scenerio always lands somewhere in the middle and with BvS getting ripped to shreds, $872 mil WW; $330 dom is a good feat and in the profit.

JL needs to be the payoff, though and cross the billion mark. A lot is now riding on this. So far, believe it or not, they got positive momentum going with BvS's Ultimate Cut getting good reviews and the early jumping for joy JL set visit from critics, something BVS never had, so that's a good thing. Hopefully SSQUAD meets expectation and atleast puts DC in a good place to move on. I'm confident that film will deliver what's it's suppose to with not as high expectations as BvS.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think the most fair comparison was maybe IM3 money at 1.2 billion (that movie didn't deserve to pass the 1bil threshold in the slightest. )

I agree. Not sure how IM3 made that kind of cash, but Batman vs Superman should've done bigger business than it did.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The Internet Has Begun to Apologize to Zack Snyder for All the Hate

Now in a very rare situation, much of the critics have been apologizing to Zack Snyder and have had a change of hearts in the director’s abilities to bring on the Justice League after seeing the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman. With at least one apology telling Warner Bros. to allow for Zack Snyder’s Justice League to be released as he sees fit.

http://dccomicsmovie.com/the-internet-h ... -the-hate/

[The_Noble_Cause]

The Internet Has Begun to Apologize to Zack Snyder for All the Hate

Now in a very rare situation, much of the critics have been apologizing to Zack Snyder and have had a change of hearts in the director’s abilities to bring on the Justice League after seeing the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman. With at least one apology telling Warner Bros. to allow for Zack Snyder’s Justice League to be released as he sees fit.

http://dccomicsmovie.com/the-internet-h ... -the-hate/

Alot of people say the director's cut of Highlander 2: The Quickening is also better. At the end of the day, you really only get one shot at this and BvsS will be remembered as a mostly-dull divisive misfire.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The Internet Has Begun to Apologize to Zack Snyder for All the Hate

Now in a very rare situation, much of the critics have been apologizing to Zack Snyder and have had a change of hearts in the director’s abilities to bring on the Justice League after seeing the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman. With at least one apology telling Warner Bros. to allow for Zack Snyder’s Justice League to be released as he sees fit.

http://dccomicsmovie.com/the-internet-h ... -the-hate/

Alot of people say the director's cut of Highlander 2: The Quickening is also better. At the end of the day, you really only get one shot at this and BvsS will be remembered as a mostly-dull divisive misfire.

I agree to an extent of the outcome. There's no arguing the division, but what gets me heated is the studio's involvement to panic at the last second, playing it too safe to the point of spiking the chances of ruining Snyder's film, which was the last thing his career needed at this point. All we hear is how WB and the DCEU is a "Director/visual driven" studio but then you hear about BvS not meeting their "expectations" when it's the studio's fingerprints that are all over the finished product.

From what I read (I'm waiting for the physical copy of the UC) most of the UC really does quench MOST of the problems people (especially the critics) had with BvS from a technical film standpoint. The issues are still there overall, no movie is perfect, but the UC really does offer a movie that would have done 2X better than the theatrical release and that's what is frustrating. I said it before that I trust Snyder and his team around him. I just still have a lack of trust with WB to be a studio of their word and let the director release what he/she intends to release.

[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

I've heard Zack's responsible for the theatrical cut, but that doesn't jibe with Deb's (his wife's) previous remarks about not understanding why the great Clark Kent-in-Gotham scene was cut. I think it was the studio.

I think WB just wanted a more Batman-centric film, and it's supposed to be a World's Finest-type film (which the Ultimate Edition is obviously closer to). I hope Wonder Woman becomes the next breakout CBM character. Ben's Batman film will happen, and it will be grande. But right now emphasis must be placed on their other characters. I want to see the New Gods. I want to see The Spectre, Deadman, the Phantom Stranger, Swamp Thing, Justice League Dark (characters from the spooky side of the DCU). I even want to see a Warlord film!

The Titans won't get the big screen treatment, it seems, but that's another mistake. The Wolfman/Pérez run on the '80s book has no fewer than three stellar story arcs that would translate well to film.

The point is, DC doesn't have to sidestep certain story arcs and truncate others because they lack film rights to certain characters. They've got it ALL, under one roof. They need to take advantage of that.

And we're (presumably) going to see Superman in his b/w regeneration suit? Holy cow.

The Big Internet Apology has begun...and it started with Jon Schnepp, one of BvS' most previously vocal critics,

TNC: however you color BvS, "dull" is not a word that describes the film or its reception, by a longshot. The Web chatter is way up there (again), while people aren't talking about Civil War quite as much (unless it's brought up in a BvS discussion).