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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Monker » Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:08 pm

Lol you literally just said polls are useless and now you are posting a poll as evidence of a Trump comeback.

This is the very definition of fake news. Rasmussen is a very conservative leaning poll. If you look at their history they have always polled Trumps approval in the high 40s to low 50s. So this is not that surprising. The RCP average is still in the low 40s...which is pretty bad. If the RCP average rises close to 50, then Biden can worry.

RPM wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-approval-up-pre-coronavirus
below is link to the source.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... rack_sep04

I believe this bump is mostly due to the " Law & order" message that is clearly resonating not just with Republicans
But more importantly independents and lukewarm Dem's. I have NEVER seen so many Police unions across the country
Blatantly throwing support behind a Republican. Makes sense though, one side wants to tie one hand behind your back
While reducing your pay, the other wants to give you a raise and has your back. Biden has been told he better start at least
Saying he doesn't like people stealing your stuff and burning everything. thats a start.
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Postby Monker » Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:27 pm

RPM wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-police-national-union-endorsement-patrick-yoes-cavuto

350,000 Members strong, The largest in our nation. plus all the family members. but as the progressives say
Who needs them? we have illegal aliens to take care of , criminals, rioters that need bail money, on and on.....good luck!


More fake news. Biden has already said rioters, looters, etc. is unacceptable behavior and should be prosecuted. At this point you are just you are just making shit up or using Trump lines like a zombie.

I think you know Trump is losing and are desperate to have anything negative stick.....while we live in Trumps mismanaged virus and mismanaged economy and failed leadership in almost everything.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:12 pm

Monker wrote:
RPM wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-police-national-union-endorsement-patrick-yoes-cavuto

350,000 Members strong, The largest in our nation. plus all the family members. but as the progressives say
Who needs them? we have illegal aliens to take care of , criminals, rioters that need bail money, on and on.....good luck!


More fake news. Biden has already said rioters, looters, etc. is unacceptable behavior and should be prosecuted. At this point you are just you are just making shit up or using Trump lines like a zombie.

I think you know Trump is losing and are desperate to have anything negative stick.....while we live in Trumps mismanaged virus and mismanaged economy and failed leadership in almost everything.


LOL..... Sorry not fake news. The largest Police Union in the nation & all they know have thrown support behind President Trump. Biden has started repeating President Trump talking points...Now that he was let out of the basement...lol...Any poll you will find shows President Trump ahead when it comes to the economy ....11/4
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Monker » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:39 pm

RPM wrote:
Monker wrote:
RPM wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-police-national-union-endorsement-patrick-yoes-cavuto

350,000 Members strong, The largest in our nation. plus all the family members. but as the progressives say
Who needs them? we have illegal aliens to take care of , criminals, rioters that need bail money, on and on.....good luck!


More fake news. Biden has already said rioters, looters, etc. is unacceptable behavior and should be prosecuted. At this point you are just you are just making shit up or using Trump lines like a zombie.

I think you know Trump is losing and are desperate to have anything negative stick.....while we live in Trumps mismanaged virus and mismanaged economy and failed leadership in almost everything.


LOL..... Sorry not fake news. The largest Police Union in the nation & all they know have thrown support behind President Trump. Biden has started repeating President Trump talking points...Now that he was let out of the basement...lol...Any poll you will find shows President Trump ahead when it comes to the economy ....11/4


Yes, it is, when you misrepresent what Democrats support by saying, "as the progressives say
Who needs them? we have illegal aliens to take care of , criminals, rioters that need bail money, on and on.....good luck!" You are either lying, ignorant, or blindly repeating Trump. It's fake news.

As for the endorsement. It's really not that big of a deal. They have endorsed every Republican candidate after Bill Clinton. So, endorsing yet another Republican should be expected. If BIDEN would have received it, it would would have been a big deal since it would have been 24 years since they endorsed a Democrat. It also means that Obama/Biden won twice without their endorsement.

Yes, Trump leads in the economy. But, even FOX has admitted he has been unable to turn that into overall support for reelection. If the election were held today, he would lose in a landslide. In addition, the economy is the ONLY issue he leads in. He has a huge negatives...where Biden is about 50/50. Trump loses in the handling of the virus, loses on healthcare, loses on foreign affairs...everything but the economy. He also loses in a HUGE way in the direction of the country. As I said, he loses in the favorbility gap. Trump has hardly anything going for him at this point.

Again, you are desperately grasping at anything positive for Trump, and writing fake news about Biden to see what sticks. You ignore the truth that Trump is way behind right now. Clinton was ahead by only 3pts nationally at election time. Biden is ahead by 7. Trump is in very bad shape...not as bad as before the conventions - but still losing badly.

The debates have not even happen...and thanks to all of the "sleepy Joe" and "basement" and "senile" propaganda that has been thrown out there, the expectations for Biden to do well should be very low. All this crap Trump and his zombies have thrown out there is going to backfire big time if Biden does well.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:09 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_f ... nald_Trump

President Trump is systematically altering the courts like no other before him. even when he is done in 4 years and junior takes over The courts will remain radically different for years to come.
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Postby RPM » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:18 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/minnes ... state-vote

I would not be shocked if this happens. law abiding people in Minnesota are fed up with the crime and know it would
Only get worse under biden - harris.
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Postby RPM » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:23 pm

https://nypost.com/2020/07/16/national- ... ses-trump/

I love it when progressives say "no bid deal who needs them" keep that train of thought going thru November please ....lol
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:56 am

Again, you are just throwing out more propaganda. No matter how much you want to believe otherwise, this is not an issue that Trump wins on:

Fact: Biden leads Trump by over seven points nationally. Clinton was ahead by only 3pts at this point.
Fact: Only 38% of Americans believe that Biden has extreme views when it comes to criminal justice, while 54% believe Trump does (https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/7kvpozbozh/ ... 100,48,140)
Fact: More Americans believe Biden will keep them safe. 54% for Biden and 44% for Trump (https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/09/ ... -.2020.pdf)
Fact: More Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of crime and criminal just than approve of it, 55% say his handling of it makes them uneasy. (https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/7kvpozbozh/ ... 100,48,140)
Fact: Most Americans are not even worried about crime where they live, 62%. (https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/09/ ... -.2020.pdf)''

So, this is not a winning issue for Trump. He hasn't put much of a dent in Biden's support. Most Americans do not even support Trump on this topic. He is speaking strictly to his MINORITY base, like you. Any bump in the polls is simply convention hype He has been hammering this issue since the 911 answering machine ad - and it hasn't helped him at all. He already has these voters on his side.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:38 am

RPM wrote:
President Trump is systematically altering the courts like no other before him. even when he is done in 4 years and junior takes over The courts will remain radically different for years to come.


Jnr is nothing but a gormless hairy ballsack. And the courts (like everything else) are being realigned against the beliefs of the vast majority of Americans, so suit the low %/high money values of the conservative elite.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:57 am

Andrew wrote:
RPM wrote:
President Trump is systematically altering the courts like no other before him. even when he is done in 4 years and junior takes over The courts will remain radically different for years to come.


Jnr is nothing but a gormless hairy ballsack. And the courts (like everything else) are being realigned against the beliefs of the vast majority of Americans, so suit the low %/high money values of the conservative elite.


Actually, this is just more propaganda. Since judges are independent of politics, you really do not know how they will rule in years to come. The current Supreme Court is a perfect example...they are supposed to be a new conservative majority but some recent rulings were really against Trump despite his appointments. If you look at what Trump zombies now want, they think they need a couple more appointments to put the Supreme Court on their side and support their agenda.

So, to predict how the court(s) will rule four years from now is foolish and ignorant of how judges have evolved over time.

And, the Jr. comment is just troll bait. Everybody knows it is Ivanka who is next in line since he is daddy's favorite.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:32 pm

Monker wrote:And, the Jr. comment is just troll bait. Everybody knows it is Ivanka who is next in line since he is daddy's favorite.


And Jnr will be there sabotaging wherever possible so his girlfriend can scream at more cameras :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thankfully the Trump name will forever be a golden turd around the neck of his grifter family. Can't wait to see the back of them all.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:55 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/04/jobs-re ... 2020-.html

1.4 million jobs added, Great news for our country, bad news for biden.
Still along way to go to get back to where we were. President Trump is trusted
On this issue more than any other, which will once again will be the primary focus.
Phase 3 trials of vaccine's look quite promising, most experts seem quite optimistic.
Pretty funny to listen to biden talk about what he would do. its like he has been
locked in the basement since march as Trump & the CDC are already doing these things.
The exception being a national mask mandate, which in hindsight should have been done right away
Although the experts at the time were saying they were useless and not needed.
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Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:46 pm

RPM wrote: 1.4 million jobs added, Great news for our country, bad news for biden.
Still along way to go to get back to where we were. President Trump is trusted
On this issue more than any other, which will once again will be the primary focus.
Phase 3 trials of vaccine's look quite promising, most experts seem quite optimistic.
Pretty funny to listen to biden talk about what he would do. its like he has been
locked in the basement since march as Trump & the CDC are already doing these things.
The exception being a national mask mandate, which in hindsight should have been done right away
Although the experts at the time were saying they were useless and not needed.


- Jobs added are only a portion of the ones lost.
- Trump is not trusted. At all.
- Biden in the basement - sad that its all the Repubs can come up with, despite it also being another lie.
- Masks - only Fox and the RWNJs were saying they weren't needed.

BTW - Where's Trunps big health care announcement?
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Postby RPM » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:24 pm

https://www.blackenterprise.com/trumps- ... u-thought/

I believe he will double his percentage from the last election. If the the friends I know are any indication,
None of which voted for Trump in 2016 & all are this time ....hidin biden is in trouble.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:06 am

RPM wrote:https://www.blackenterprise.com/trumps-approval-rating-with-black-voters-may-be-higher-than-you-thought/

I believe he will double his percentage from the last election. If the the friends I know are any indication,
None of which voted for Trump in 2016 & all are this time ....hidin biden is in trouble.


This article was talking about a gender gap between black women and men, where more black men supported Trump. It doesn't change the over-all percentage that 80% of blacks are opposed to Trump. There are no gains there and your experience is not really much of an indication of where the country itself is.

As for Democrats turning to Republicans, there are literally a half dozen or so PAC's showing the exact opposite trend. Also, the last I looked, the number registered for Democrats grew...but mainly because Independents moved to the party.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby RPM » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:26 am

Monker wrote:
RPM wrote:https://www.blackenterprise.com/trumps-approval-rating-with-black-voters-may-be-higher-than-you-thought/

I believe he will double his percentage from the last election. If the the friends I know are any indication,
None of which voted for Trump in 2016 & all are this time ....hidin biden is in trouble.


This article was talking about a gender gap between black women and men, where more black men supported Trump. It doesn't change the over-all percentage that 80% of blacks are opposed to Trump. There are no gains there and your experience is not really much of an indication of where the country itself is.

As for Democrats turning to Republicans, there are literally a half dozen or so PAC's showing the exact opposite trend. Also, the last I looked, the number registered for Democrats grew...but mainly because Independents moved to the party.


Obviously We we not know the real numbers until after the election. Trump received 8% of the black vote in 2016, if this one is close Any bump could have an impact. I found the people I know who have changed their mind interesting because of why they feel different. None of them suddenly like Trump, but they have felt economically they are better off with him than without. I have yet to talk to anyone Who is EXCITED about biden. I have a family member who is only voting for him because she hates Trump. Still plenty of time for things To change, but its getting interesting.
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Re: Donald J Trump Canned Beans For Sale Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:01 am

RPM wrote:Obviously We we not know the real numbers until after the election. Trump received 8% of the black vote in 2016, if this one is close Any bump could have an impact.


You just don't get it. Right now, Biden is twice as far ahead of Trump as Clinton was. 8% of the black vote is horrible...and even with a small bump he is not going to make up enough ground with just that. The real issue in 2016 was that voter turn out for Democrats in general was horrible, and that includes the black vote. I just don't see that happening this year.

I found the people I know who have changed their mind interesting because of why they feel different. None of them suddenly like Trump, but they have felt economically they are better off with him than without. I have yet to talk to anyone Who is EXCITED about biden. I have a family member who is only voting for him because she hates Trump. Still plenty of time for things To change, but its getting interesting.


Well, it isn't really affecting anything...until your personal experience is multiplied by a few million, Biden still has an overwhelming victory if the election were held today. The one thing that I can think of that can change it is the debates...and Trump himself has lowered expectation for Biden so far that I doubt that it will be much of a game changer.

Something to think about: Every Republican president after Reagan has left the economy in shambles. GW Bush had the Savings and Loan crisis and a recession. W had the housing crisis and Great Recession. Now Trump has had this pandemic economy and recession. This is what supply side economics and conservatives do - they fuck up a stable economy by giving tax cuts to corporation and the rich - even when they are NOT NEEDED, deregulate corporate America, cause HUGE deficits, and end in a financial crisis that a Democrat (Clinton/Obama/Biden) has to fix. This is history repeating itself.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:52 pm

Trump's Press Liar on Fox News blaming Obama and Biden for there not being a Covid vaccine. Yes, that is correct folks.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1303 ... 44385?s=20

I wonder how many fucking morons will agree with her? WTF....
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Postby RPM » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:54 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... Prize.html
President Trump Nobel peace prize nomination.
Well Deserved ! Historic deal no doubt.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:48 pm

RPM wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8713415/amp/Donald-Trump-nominated-2021-Nobel-Peace-Prize.html
President Trump Nobel peace prize nomination.
Well Deserved ! Historic deal no doubt.


I’m guessing he won’t shut up about this...ever.
On the face of it - any kind of peace in the ME is a positive. But as for the deal...I remain ever skeptical and wary of anything with that professional bullshit artists' name on it. Time will tell.

Shame he can’t keep any kind of peace in his own backyard.
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Postby RPM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:53 am

Chicago murder rate cut 'roughly in half' since before Operation Legend: AG Barr
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-murd ... egend-barr

Thank You President Trump! Somebody from the outside had to do something As the crazy progressives
In my state are just letting people die week after week. Tired of innocent children being murdered.
No protest, no changes from the weak Chicago leadership. Just death and grieve.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:10 am

RPM wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8713415/amp/Donald-Trump-nominated-2021-Nobel-Peace-Prize.html
President Trump Nobel peace prize nomination.
Well Deserved ! Historic deal no doubt.


No, not really. He was nominated by the same right winger who nominated him for the N. Korea summit. That is why nobody is covering it, except the far right media. It's not going anywhere.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:19 am

RPM wrote:Chicago murder rate cut 'roughly in half' since before Operation Legend: AG Barr
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-murd ... egend-barr

Thank You President Trump! Somebody from the outside had to do something As the crazy progressives
In my state are just letting people die week after week. Tired of innocent children being murdered.
No protest, no changes from the weak Chicago leadership. Just death and grieve.


You are only talking barely one month of data, and infusing it with a bunch of attacks. Seems to me like Barr is acting political yet again and you are buying right into it. Stuff like this takes time to know the real impact, and at this point that probably won't be known until after the election.
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Postby RPM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:34 am

Monker wrote:
RPM wrote:Chicago murder rate cut 'roughly in half' since before Operation Legend: AG Barr
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-murd ... egend-barr

Thank You President Trump! Somebody from the outside had to do something As the crazy progressives
In my state are just letting people die week after week. Tired of innocent children being murdered.
No protest, no changes from the weak Chicago leadership. Just death and grieve.


You are only talking barely one month of data, and infusing it with a bunch of attacks. Seems to me like Barr is acting political yet again and you are buying right into it. Stuff like this takes time to know the real impact, and at this point that probably won't be known until after the election.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-violence- ... d=72119187

You just don't get it do you.

Let me tell you exactly what I am buying into, Children are being murdered.
Maybe some have been spared by the actions of this administration. what kind of monster are you that you would care more about stupid politics than Innocent children? Never mind, same kind that run this city I assume.
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Postby Andrew » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:01 am

Another day, another set of lies.

Trump on tape in Feb talking about the dangers of COVID. Which he then played down and continues to play down. Blood is on his hands. Lots of it.
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Postby RPM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:06 am

Andrew wrote:Another day, another set of lies.

Trump on tape in Feb talking about the dangers of COVID. Which he then played down and continues to play down. Blood is on his hands. Lots of it.



Well so much for YOUR lies........

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... ivate.html
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Postby RPM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:12 am

https://www.theblaze.com/news/chicago-p ... reelection

Wow.... never thought I would see that happen, maybe there is hope for Chicago after all.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:18 am

RPM wrote:https://www.theblaze.com/news/chicago-police-union-backs-trump-reelection

Wow.... never thought I would see that happen, maybe there is hope for Chicago after all.


Obviously you do not care much because they endorsed him last time, too.
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Postby Monker » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:28 am

RPM wrote:Let me tell you exactly what I am buying into, Children are being murdered.
Maybe some have been spared by the actions of this administration. what kind of monster are you that you would care more about stupid politics than Innocent children? Never mind, same kind that run this city I assume.


I am not the one politicizing the death of children - you are. You are the one specifically mentioning kids. By your own definition, you are a monster.

What I am saying is there is not enough data to credit Trump for the lower murder rate as Barr is in this article. He is being political about it....and so are you.
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Postby RPM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:55 am

Monker wrote:
RPM wrote:Let me tell you exactly what I am buying into, Children are being murdered.
Maybe some have been spared by the actions of this administration. what kind of monster are you that you would care more about stupid politics than Innocent children? Never mind, same kind that run this city I assume.


I am not the one politicizing the death of children - you are. You are the one specifically mentioning kids. By your own definition, you are a monster.

What I am saying is there is not enough data to credit Trump for the lower murder rate as Barr is in this article. He is being political about it....and so are you.


You bet I am mentioning children. when is enough enough? 8 -10 year olds shot in the chest with no arrest. I don't care who fixes it, I live here man. What I am saying is I don't care about the data, if ONE of these were spared because of the actions of Barr then great. President Trump has offered help to us, FINALLY it was excepted.
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