Neal VS Jon

[Gideon]

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

It says something about his derangement and narcissism that he’s pushing me more towards #teamjon despite Jon’s shitty politics and creative laziness.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

It says something about his derangement and narcissism that he’s pushing me more towards #teamjon despite Jon’s shitty politics and creative laziness.

Neal, in his defense, says all 3 primary members (Neal, Jon, Arnel) have social media passwords and can post to the official JRNY pages if they want. That being said, I'd rather have ZERO posts than the crap Neal posts. None of it is related to Journey. Just self-promotion of himself or his wife. Didn't the Resonate video already teach him that there is no public appetite to see him slobbering on someone?

There was a brief period where they were locked out of Twitter because QPrime had the password. Hopefully the new manager intervenes and quick!

[Andrew]

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

https://www.instagram.com/journeyofficial/

Where exactly?

[Gideon]

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

https://www.instagram.com/journeyofficial/

Where exactly?

The stories expired, they only last 12-24 hours I believe. But TNC, Monker, and others can attest... Neal and Michaele shit are there all the time. You may not catch them because of the time zone difference.

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

It says something about his derangement and narcissism that he’s pushing me more towards #teamjon despite Jon’s shitty politics and creative laziness.

Neal, in his defense, says all 3 primary members (Neal, Jon, Arnel) have social media passwords and can post to the official JRNY pages if they want. That being said, I'd rather have ZERO posts than the crap Neal posts. None of it is related to Journey. Just self-promotion of himself or his wife. Didn't the Resonate video already teach him that there is no public appetite to see him slobbering on someone?

There was a brief period where they were locked out of Twitter because QPrime had the password. Hopefully the new manager intervenes and quick!

Ya. Resonate is my favorite AP-led Journey song and perhaps my favorite post-Perry song in the catalog and that video was atrocious.

[Monker]

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

https://www.instagram.com/journeyofficial/

Where exactly?

The stories expired, they only last 12-24 hours I believe. But TNC, Monker, and others can attest... Neal and Michaele shit are there all the time. You may not catch them because of the time zone difference.

I do not follow Neal or Journey on social media.

[Archetype]

Jesus Christ, Journey’s official Instagram has three stories and all of them are Neal and Michaele making out.

https://www.instagram.com/journeyofficial/

Where exactly?

The stories expired. They stay up for 24 hours. I saw them

[JourneyHard]

I heard the dj on the local classic rock station talking about Neal and Jon fighting. They won't play any new songs from Freedom, but they will talk about this. Maybe this is a publicity stunt.

[Eric]

The odd thing about the drama and poor/embarrassing social media performance is that they had a tremendously active and productive year from mid 2021 to mid 2022. A sold out/close to sold out every night tour of big arenas, Lollapoolaza, NYE show, CNN 4th show, Orchestra shows, Football HOF show, new album and a new DVD. Either this all was momentum Q-prime started or Schon should be able to motivate direction... just not be the face of it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The odd thing about the drama and poor/embarrassing social media performance is that they had a tremendously active and productive year from mid 2021 to mid 2022. A sold out/close to sold out every night tour of big arenas, Lollapoolaza, NYE show, CNN 4th show, Orchestra shows, Football HOF show, new album and a new DVD. Either this all was momentum Q-prime started or Schon should be able to motivate direction... just not be the face of it.

Lost amidst Neal's endless hubris and signing his posts as "founder & manager" is the fact that Jon was also co-managing (according to Deen Castronovo and elsewhere).

So who knows who is responsible. Personally, I don't think Neal has any kind of business acumen. Dude is basically illiterate.

[JourneyHard]

Maybe Neal and his wife have a reality show in the works. Then people can tune in and see all this drama every week.

Neal should stop posting anything to social media or the Journey page or whatever. He has become toxic.

[Archetype]

Neal says Gregg is coming out for the 50th anniversary tour.


https://blabbermouth.net/news/neal-scho ... rsary-tour

[Monker]

Neal says Gregg is coming out for the 50th anniversary tour.


https://blabbermouth.net/news/neal-scho ... rsary-tour

It's funny how everybody assumes that adding Gregg means that Jonathan is fired. Since Jonathan is part of Freedom LLC, I don't think Gregg could be hired without Jonathan agreeing. And, Neal can't fire Jonathan any more than he could fire Steve Perry from Elmo LLC. If Jonathan leaves, Neal is going to have to buy him out in the same way he did with Steve Perry.

Neal never said adding Gregg is a replacement for Jonathan. I would expect to see them both on tour. If anything the second keyboardist (Jason?) is the one who is no longer needed for the tour.

[Archetype]

Neal says Gregg is coming out for the 50th anniversary tour.


https://blabbermouth.net/news/neal-scho ... rsary-tour

It's funny how everybody assumes that adding Gregg means that Jonathan is fired. Since Jonathan is part of Freedom LLC, I don't think Gregg could be hired without Jonathan agreeing. And, Neal can't fire Jonathan any more than he could fire Steve Perry from Elmo LLC. If Jonathan leaves, Neal is going to have to buy him out in the same way he did with Steve Perry.

Neal never said adding Gregg is a replacement for Jonathan. I would expect to see them both on tour. If anything the second keyboardist (Jason?) is the one who is no longer needed for the tour.

I’m aware of all of that, and I didn’t assume anything, and I never said Neal said anything about Jonathan in this context. However, the prospect of Gregg joining the 50th anniversary tour was discussed previously in this thread, and this confirms he’s getting involved somehow.

[scarab]

If true, this should be a "night with journey". Also they are the back up for the European leg. Could this just be Greg will join on a date or two?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Neal says Gregg is coming out for the 50th anniversary tour.


https://blabbermouth.net/news/neal-scho ... rsary-tour

Riiiiiight.

Just like Randy was gonna replace Ross on bass.

There's Neal's social media and then there is reality. Don't get the two confused.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's funny how everybody assumes that adding Gregg means that Jonathan is fired. Since Jonathan is part of Freedom LLC, I don't think Gregg could be hired without Jonathan agreeing. And, Neal can't fire Jonathan any more than he could fire Steve Perry from Elmo LLC. If Jonathan leaves, Neal is going to have to buy him out in the same way he did with Steve Perry.

Neal never said adding Gregg is a replacement for Jonathan. I would expect to see them both on tour. If anything the second keyboardist (Jason?) is the one who is no longer needed for the tour.

Neal tries to give the impression online that it is "his band." But it's all BS. Even listen to the soundchecks that have been uploaded recently on YT. Cain is basically the conductor. And when things turn to shit (ex. Augeri lip-synching) suddenly Neal ISN'T in charge. Suddenly, Neal has no idea what's going on in his own band!

Outside of hiring Arnel, most of Neal's decisions (firing JSS, music video with his pay-per-view wife, firing Ross/Smitty) have been horrible.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Neal's latest tweet tantrum hints at "owning the band." Maybe he will get a loan from Merck.

"No one is going to dictate to me at this point what I can and cannot do in regards to Journey. I haven’t been here and not here to take orders- never have and never will. It’s my band and I’ll own it as I should and make the right changes as needed. NS"

[danielb]

So, Neal is trying to replace Cain with Rolie 3 weeks before the start of the tour?

[The_Noble_Cause]

So, Neal is trying to replace Cain with Rolie 3 weeks before the start of the tour?

Neal simply said "you will see him" regarding Rolie. It means jack-shit. These guys don't even spend more than a day rehearsing together. It's crap. Really, just ignore him.

[Monker]

I’m aware of all of that, and I didn’t assume anything, and I never said Neal said anything about Jonathan in this context. However, the prospect of Gregg joining the 50th anniversary tour was discussed previously in this thread, and this confirms he’s getting involved somehow.

You are correct. But, I was speaking more about the notes on the link you posted. The note Neal replied to, and many notes that replied to Neal were saying that Gregg was replacing Jonathan.

[Monker]

Neal's latest tweet tantrum hints at "owning the band." Maybe he will get a loan from Merck.

"No one is going to dictate to me at this point what I can and cannot do in regards to Journey. I haven’t been here and not here to take orders- never have and never will. It’s my band and I’ll own it as I should and make the right changes as needed. NS"

Well, the right change is for Jonathan to talk to Nightmare and see if he can get the Journey license if he forms a new version of Journey with Arnel, Steve Smith, Ross Valory, Gregg Rolie, himself, and some other guitarist. Neal is a mental case.

[Eric]

Neal's latest tweet tantrum hints at "owning the band." Maybe he will get a loan from Merck.

"No one is going to dictate to me at this point what I can and cannot do in regards to Journey. I haven’t been here and not here to take orders- never have and never will. It’s my band and I’ll own it as I should and make the right changes as needed. NS"

Well, the right change is for Jonathan to talk to Nightmare and see if he can get the Journey license if he forms a new version of Journey with Arnel, Steve Smith, Ross Valory, Gregg Rolie, himself, and some other guitarist. Neal is a mental case.

Arnel and Rolie wouldn't choose Cain. And a Cain/Valory/Smith Journey would be perfect if you like low energy shows with no new music.

The best thing would be if someone can reign in Schon without zapping his drive. Someone else needs to drive the bus AND sit behind the driver... but Schon needs to be in the front of the bus, too. His drama may be bad, but Journey did more July 2021-August 2022 than they had 2012-2020 combined.

[Monker]

Neal's latest tweet tantrum hints at "owning the band." Maybe he will get a loan from Merck.

"No one is going to dictate to me at this point what I can and cannot do in regards to Journey. I haven’t been here and not here to take orders- never have and never will. It’s my band and I’ll own it as I should and make the right changes as needed. NS"

Well, the right change is for Jonathan to talk to Nightmare and see if he can get the Journey license if he forms a new version of Journey with Arnel, Steve Smith, Ross Valory, Gregg Rolie, himself, and some other guitarist. Neal is a mental case.

Arnel and Rolie wouldn't choose Cain. And a Cain/Valory/Smith Journey would be perfect if you like low energy shows with no new music.

The best thing would be if someone can reign in Schon without zapping his drive. Someone else needs to drive the bus AND sit behind the driver... but Schon needs to be in the front of the bus, too. His drama may be bad, but Journey did more July 2021-August 2022 than they had 2012-2020 combined.

Yeah, they released a crappy album that earned little attention, had a revolving door for members - even during the tour, had multiple cases of legal trouble, fired hired fired and hired management, went on tour where the mix sounded like crap half the time. Neal is a drunk driver while driving the Journey bus. HE is Journey's biggest problem.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yeah, they released a crappy album that earned little attention, had a revolving door for members - even during the tour, had multiple cases of legal trouble, fired hired fired and hired management, went on tour where the mix sounded like crap half the time. Neal is a drunk driver while driving the Journey bus. HE is Journey's biggest problem.

As much as I admire Neal's creative tenacity and fire, Monker is 100%. The current path is unsustainable. Schon either needs to go to therapy, or rehab, or just go away. At a minimum, just stfu.

[The_Noble_Cause]

https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/journeys- ... count/amp/

Another frivolous attention seeking legal maneuver by The Schons. The part about Neal not willing to cooperate with Cain for resolution, tells you all you need to know. He has no interest in resolving it. This is all for attention.

Similarly, The Schons' Live Nation security suit got thrown out because they failed to cooperate with discovery or even show up in court.

What other desperation tactics can this couple engage in before the tour starts?

[Eric]

https://www.vanndigital.com/donald-trum ... whos-next/

Did she really have access to Journey's corporate card? Yikes.

[The_Noble_Cause]

https://www.vanndigital.com/donald-trump-spiritual-advisor-paula-whites-grifting-whos-next/

Did she really have access to Journey's corporate card? Yikes.

Very credible source you got there....

It's worth noting that TAG Publicity first tweeted this article out last night.

Neal then re-tweeted it.

Who is one of TAG's main clients? Neal Schon.

Basically The Schons are planting stories and then citing them as proof of their own claims.

((BTW Paula White doesn't need Journey's money. She already has a very successful career bilking the faithful))

[danielb]

Are you pro Schon, TNC?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Are you pro Schon, TNC?

I'm pro-Journey.

[Eric]

Yeah, they released a crappy album that earned little attention, had a revolving door for members - even during the tour, had multiple cases of legal trouble, fired hired fired and hired management, went on tour where the mix sounded like crap half the time. Neal is a drunk driver while driving the Journey bus. HE is Journey's biggest problem.

I actually went to two shows and they were two of the better Journey shows I've been to. The second, in particular, where they opened with "Come away with me" and played to a pack house in a monster rain storm. All sorts of energy that was missing for YEARS 2012 - 2020.

We ALL agree that the drama is ridiculous and hurts Journey and we ALL blame Schon in different degrees for his part, but it wasn't just the album I meant by them being active. It was NYE on Dick Clark's show, Fourth of July on CNN, Football Hall of Fame show, all the sold out crowds, Lollapoolaza and the DVD/Blu-ray from it, the orchestra shows... Journey was FINALLY active again. We need this level of activity without the drama.